Southern California - suggestions for upgrading my Lemond
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07-23-08, 01:22 AM
So im upgrading my lemond zurich 03. Right now it has full ultegra, rolf vector comp wheelset, alloy seatpost and everything else stock. What i want to upgrade to is a carbon seat post, carbon handlebars, a set of carbon aero bars, and also if any company even makes one a blue carbon fork, or something that would match the paint scheme , i want a carbon fork but i dont want to mess up the great paint scheme of the bike etc. Also notice that i believe it has a integrated fork/stem, unless im wrong, but it looks like it, i was also wanting to upgrade the stem. I am also upgrading to speedplay pedals. Also other than upgrading the wheelset or components is there anyhting i can upgrade. So what im askin is what parts would you suggest to use and if you know where i can get them for a good price, i would say in the area of like 140 for the aero bars, 120 for handlebars, 120 for seatpost, or if you think i can get something allot better for forking over a little bit more money etc. Suggestions would be much appreciated since i dont ahve a good idea of all teh products out there and of course would like to get the most bang for my money. Thanks all. Oh also if you could suggest a LBS that might teach me how to install and work on my bike if i buy all of these upgrades from them. If not i plan to install on my own using a guid and some videos form youtube, haha , unless anyone would like to volunteer there time heh. Thanks. Heres a picture, sorry i took them with my phone.
For the aero bars i like the style similer to profile design T2+Cobras/ Sonic CSX, oranything similer and hopefully Carbon and very good at absorbing vibrations would be nice.
07-23-08, 02:16 PM
Can you tell us what you are trying to accomplish with these changes to your bike? Are there specific performance improvements or fit changes? Is there something not working correctly now?
(in the TdF forum they may suggest you upgrade Lemond to Lance / Hinault / Indurain, but that's beside the point)
07-23-08, 02:50 PM
I'd upgrade the cranks and BB to durace. I'm asuming its a steel frame and fork so a carbon seat post and fork would be overkill.
Talk to beanz...
He'll let you know how to get a new Lemond frame.."free".....
chekc out how HERE (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=377799&highlight=lemond)
You already have a carbon fork on your bike unless somebody switched it out for something else. Here is a link to the specs on your bike...
07-24-08, 02:37 AM
**** i had no idea.... it doesnt feel as good as i would think carbon would in terms of dampening road vibration. As to my goal i want to dampen road vibration and me it over-all a faster bike because i plan on doing triathlons etc. Like i said i will probably not change the fork but do want to change the handlebars and put on aero bars. Also want to change stem maybe. Just wonderign what products you guys would recommend?? Just need some ideas on what you guys like and think is worth spending my money on, Im a pretty light guy btw if thats changes anything.
07-24-08, 09:13 AM
I odn't notice squat when it comes to a cf seatpost, as you don't with the cf fork.:D..IF you go cf hb's, you have to worry if you ever drop the bike. I've heard stories of bars unexpectedly snapping after a crash or a drop evnthough they look fine.:eek:
07-24-08, 01:44 PM
hmmmm..... thanks for the tip, i think i will be grabbing the CB handlebars anyway. I plan to keep the bike heavy for training and put all the CB on a couple weeks before a event etc. Anyone has suggestions on a good @ bend aero bar?
07-24-08, 02:02 PM
First things first... If you are having comfort issues because of road vibration a carbon seatpost won't do much. I know of some people who have had decent success with a Specialized carbon post with zertz inserts however I've never tried them myself. The biggest change that you can make to comfort because of road vibration without buying a new frame would in order:
The wheels that you have (Rolfs) tend to have higher tension and harsher the ride because of the minimal spoke count than say a comparable 32/32 spoke wheel or even a 20/24 wheel. Besides the wheels, I would suggest lowering your air pressure if always up to maximums as well. I generally ride 105 rear/100 front and weight about 175. Also getting better tires (Michelins Pro-Race X and Vittoria's Open Corsa Evo CX (expensive but very smooth)). Check your lbs if they have demo wheels to try out. That's the best way to see what will work for you.
The carbon handlebars will also not do much for vibration, I would suggest trying some of the Specialized bar phat - they work very well a vibration reduction. If you are looking to add aero extensions to your drop bar, stay with aluminum. It's easier to find extensions that will work on aluminum than the other way around. I remember that Easton carbon bars are specified to work with aero extensions but not many.
You fork is also carbon, however the steerer tube is aluminum and is threaded. Which makes your stem a quill stem. If you are looking to switch that out with say a threadless stem, you'll need to get threadless to quill stem adapter (http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=22711). If you want to switch out your al/carbon fork with an all carbon fork you will also need to get a headset. A 1" fork on Ebay (Reynolds which is what I believe your current fork make is) for about $150 and threadless headset for about $100 as well. Again, what you will gain is less weight.
Hope this helps...
Ian in SD
07-24-08, 07:02 PM
thanks for the help, also question why would a aluminum aero bar as oppose to a carbon bar of the same model be better?? Do you mean like the brackets dont work well on carbon but better on aluminum?? Like what i mean is Why would gettin the T2+cobra aeros bards be better than getting the cabron version?? Other they they are allot cheaper heh. Also yes i would like to get some weight off, thanks for the tip on the tires, I dont think i will switch out the wheelset, i like how dependable and strong this wheelset is. Hasnt needed to be brought into the LBS yet. As for getting a new crank that will now be happening as i see the teeth on this crank are not holding up heh. Is the Dura-Ace really stronger?? Like in terms of material strangth?
07-24-08, 08:40 PM
The profile design T2+ or the sonic are add-ons and the were they clamp onto especially on a carbon handlebar is usually not recommended unless the handlebar mfg is ok with it. As for the crank, the new Dura-Ace cranks 7900 with the outboard bearings are excellent cranks, very stiff.
07-24-08, 10:51 PM
the weight savings from CF bars to alum bars is only 50 grams or so. Most make the switch for road dampening. But you want to attach aerobars to the CF bars and that might cause some problems. CF bars required torque setting in in/lbs. A couple in/lbs too tight will crack you new $200 bars. The more you have to take the aerobars off then more you are in risk to cracking your bars. I'd hate to see what would happen if the bars snapped when your were in the aero bars, that would be your chin going through the stem and forward cartwheel. not good.
Honestly you'd be throwing your money into the wrong places unless you just want CF bling. Steel is suppose to be PLUSH. If it's not plush then your wheels are causing it like Ian said. If you like your wheelset, you can try different tire brands, some have stiffer and softer sidewall which effects ride comfort. Which is a pretty cheap upgrade. I hopped on the Rubino Pro bus and love them so far. They roll faster then conti's and have good sidewalls.
I had suggested the DA cranks because bike technology has changed since your bike was made. Stiffer mean more power into the ground = faster and smoother. You can also get ceramic BB to help spin with more effecancy over steel bearings.
07-24-08, 11:51 PM
ic thanks for the help guys, i have allot of things to think about now. Im thinking looks at some different tires and a new crank. After might go with the aluminum aero bar since that one is more available at the bike shops here. As for the pressure for attaching CB aero bars to a CB handlebar friend has a torque wrench. So it hink i would be fine but maybe i will try and get a test with CB and alum. aero bars from the bike shop and see what i like. THanks again for the tips
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