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sential
07-23-08, 01:32 AM
Searched for a thread on this couldn't find anything... Post up your favorite clip or video

this one's mine (yes its from MASH), but this to me captures what it's all about, bombing hills, splitting lanes, skidding around turns, and just basically hauling ass through the city... (as opposed to bar spins and bmx tricks on track bikes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mik5AKGYnw


Lo-Fi-Kid
07-23-08, 03:29 AM
so.... what color are your deep v's?

dddave
07-23-08, 04:33 AM
F-


1fluffhead
07-23-08, 07:00 AM
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=161478&highlight=video+thread

NewYorkMantle
07-23-08, 07:36 AM
failure

fluidworks
07-23-08, 09:28 AM
What it's all about?

No helmet, no brakes, running lights. Ahh, yes, everything great about fixed riding.

freedom?
07-23-08, 01:12 PM
i love your part

middy
07-23-08, 01:54 PM
Ain't you supposed to stop at the stop signs? Oh wait, you can't.

And then y'all complain that motorists don't give you any respect on the road.

:thumb:

Just kidding! Remember not to wear your helmet and just have fun!

iansmash
07-23-08, 01:55 PM
hey hey hey...i think not stopping at a 4-way sign is perfectly fine

Sinn
07-23-08, 02:11 PM
I love my head. Wear a helmet.

zoltani
07-23-08, 02:23 PM
going top speed on the sidewalk is what it's all about

sential
07-23-08, 03:18 PM
Damn this is the kind of response I get... who else wants to join the hate train?

Okay so i've looked through the other thread, and there's tons of garbage... Cheesy bike commercials, reality shows that never were, and lots of crap that has nothing to do with fixed gears (russian kids doing handstands and flips off buildings).

Thought this could be a thread for some good videos (fixed gear specific).

I watch this particular video nearly everyday, it'd be nice to have some new ones to watch. Didn't realize I was working with such a tough crowd. I guess I'll leave it up to you guys to contribute, or close it.

zoltani
07-23-08, 03:29 PM
http://www.digave.com/videos/

BYRDO444
07-23-08, 06:36 PM
word. all the hate is dumb.

andy's part is one of my all time favorites.

have you seen the full length mash yet. its up on vimeo, search mash sf

emi's part is pretty sick too, like andy's.

here's some other of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Fdp--_FTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7b0e4dooHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbwngNoHm0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSILCfzBvf0

theres so many more, but i have to go eat dinner

deathhare
07-23-08, 06:58 PM
jackass riding = fixed gear badassness?

sential
07-23-08, 07:14 PM
word. all the hate is dumb.

andy's part is one of my all time favorites.

have you seen the full length mash yet. its up on vimeo, search mash sf

emi's part is pretty sick too, like andy's.

here's some other of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Fdp--_FTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7b0e4dooHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbwngNoHm0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSILCfzBvf0

theres so many more, but i have to go eat dinner

whoa only took 14 replies to get a decent one... i knew there were cool people hiding out somewhere on this board...

all good vids

sential
07-23-08, 07:15 PM
jackass riding = fixed gear badassness?


people used to ask the same thing about skateboarding.

deathhare
07-23-08, 07:19 PM
Please explain the correlation between riding a track bike like a jackass in San Francisco to the sport of skateboarding.

sential
07-23-08, 07:32 PM
Please explain the correlation between riding a track bike like a jackass in San Francisco to the sport of skateboarding.

is bombing hills on a skateboard in SF safe? no. Will you get called a jackass for doing it? quite possible. Is it cool, is it fun to do, is it fun to watch? yes, yes, and yes.

why should it be any different on a track bike?

deathhare
07-23-08, 07:47 PM
is bombing hills on a skateboard in SF safe? no. Will you get called a jackass for doing it? quite possible. Is it cool, is it fun to do, is it fun to watch? yes, yes, and yes.

why should it be any different on a track bike?

No one said anything at all about personal safety. I could care less if those guys hit a pole.
Were talking about riding like an jackass. Were talking about swerving in traffic for no reason, riding on the wrong side of the road for no reason or regard to other people, and blowing redlights full speed, everyone else on the road be damned. That is the mash video in a nutshell.

matt wisconsin
07-23-08, 08:21 PM
word. all the hate is dumb.

andy's part is one of my all time favorites.

have you seen the full length mash yet. its up on vimeo, search mash sf

emi's part is pretty sick too, like andy's.

here's some other of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Fdp--_FTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7b0e4dooHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbwngNoHm0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSILCfzBvf0

theres so many more, but i have to go eat dinner

thanks about the mash sf heads up, man. as much as I want to pay $40 for a fixed gear dvd .......
>..
.....

aMull
07-23-08, 08:37 PM
No one said anything at all about personal safety. I could care less if those guys hit a pole.
Were talking about riding like an jackass. Were talking about swerving in traffic for no reason, riding on the wrong side of the road for no reason or regard to other people, and blowing redlights full speed, everyone else on the road be damned. That is the mash video in a nutshell.
Uhm, there is a reason, and it's to entertain. Stopping at lights and going 12 mph in a straight line is not very entertaining.

solbrothers
07-23-08, 08:37 PM
I love my head. Wear a helmet.

x2. the only reason i didnt die after getting hit by a car a few years ago was the fact that i was wearing a helmet.

Sinn
07-23-08, 08:37 PM
I'm just here hatin' the hate.

elTwitcho
07-23-08, 09:10 PM
Uhm, there is a reason, and it's to entertain. Stopping at lights and going 12 mph in a straight line is not very entertaining.

If some bonehead bombed through an intersection and nailed you while you were on the sidewalk locking up your bike, think you'd call him a jackass or would you say " Oh man, that FREAKING RULED!!!!" when you woke up from a concussion?

Some good riding in the one video, but some serious stupidity as well

matt wisconsin
07-23-08, 09:43 PM
Just finished watching MASH and I would have been IRATE had I paid $40 for it. There's a difference between riding aggressively and riding like a jackass, and prior to watching it, I thought people were referring to the same thing, but 90% of the riding in MASH is jackass. Most of the riders weren't messengers, or at least not on-duty.. riding the wrong lane for no reason, hitting cars with their bikes, circles in the middle of pedestrians. I am an aggressive rider and blow stop lights and etc. whatever, but if I had not known what Fixed Gears were and had only MASH to reference, I would be on the old anti-fixed gear wagon and understand why everyone calls them hipster jackass riders. that's my mash rant.

here it is for free if you missed it:http://www.vimeo.com/1268398

deathhare
07-24-08, 06:28 AM
Uhm, there is a reason, and it's to entertain.


Youre entertained by that?
Are you one of those Amish kids that just busted out into the world?

middy
07-24-08, 09:03 AM
Skateboards aren't street legal vehicles. If too many people start riding like this, bikes won't be either. We get enough disrespect from motorists as it is, don't make it worse.

Thetank
07-24-08, 09:18 AM
The skateboard argument is that at one point people who weren't into the sport thought it was just a bunch of Jackass kids on a wheeled board busting their heads open on a sidewalk. Now its considered a sport and everyone knows about it. So riding fixed is more popular now but try to explain to your average person what it is and they stare at you like you just kicked their mom.

However I still think all these videos of guys riding fixed in their trendy little downtown are all about looking cool and not to help further the equality of bikes on the road, or to help their "Sport" grow in the right direction. If you want equal rights on the road everyone has to follow the rules and just because you ride a track bike on the street and your clothes are the latest fashion statement doesn't give you the right to put other people in danger cause you're too damn cool to stop at a red light!

jpdesjar
07-24-08, 09:36 AM
it would be pretty boring video to watch people on bikes stopping at stop lights...i get juiced watching these guys tear it up, doesn't mean i am going to go out and do the same but at least i can take that energy and put it into my riding

i think jumping mopeds off of things is pretty fun

sential
07-24-08, 10:06 AM
Just finished watching MASH and I would have been IRATE had I paid $40 for it. There's a difference between riding aggressively and riding like a jackass, and prior to watching it, I thought people were referring to the same thing, but 90% of the riding in MASH is jackass. Most of the riders weren't messengers, or at least not on-duty.. riding the wrong lane for no reason, hitting cars with their bikes, circles in the middle of pedestrians. I am an aggressive rider and blow stop lights and etc. whatever, but if I had not known what Fixed Gears were and had only MASH to reference, I would be on the old anti-fixed gear wagon and understand why everyone calls them hipster jackass riders. that's my mash rant.

here it is for free if you missed it:http://www.vimeo.com/1268398

Who cares if they weren't messengers... So now I gotta be a messenger to ride a track bike?

MASH is not a bad video IMO. To me it's just annoying that it's the only real fixed gear video we have (that you can actually buy on DVD in a store). [someone school me if it's not the only one]. It's like we're stuck in 1986 and everyone's talking about the Bones Brigade (yeah yeah, that was cool, but what's next). I think once people start making more videos we'll see some diversity. Hell maybe some of you guys ranting in here can make your own and it could be more "law abiding" and you could wear helmets and stop at lights... who knows.

elTwitcho
07-24-08, 11:15 AM
I don't see it progressing all that far to be totally honest. Watching someone ride isn't really very exciting compared to actually riding, and as for the whole freestyle thing, I think the bikes are going to become more specialized for doing tricks and you'll start seeing higher bars, smaller frames and a geometry more suited towards pulling tricks than our current fixed gear frames.

I drew up a picture of what these specialized futuristic bikes designed for doing tricks will probably look like.

http://www.hylandbikes.com/images/bmx_GTjamiebestpro500.jpg

I could be way off though...

matt wisconsin
07-24-08, 11:20 AM
Who cares if they weren't messengers... So now I gotta be a messenger to ride a track bike?

MASH is not a bad video IMO. To me it's just annoying that it's the only real fixed gear video we have (that you can actually buy on DVD in a store). [someone school me if it's not the only one]. It's like we're stuck in 1986 and everyone's talking about the Bones Brigade (yeah yeah, that was cool, but what's next). I think once people start making more videos we'll see some diversity. Hell maybe some of you guys ranting in here can make your own and it could be more "law abiding" and you could wear helmets and stop at lights... who knows.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that they ride like jackasses and put others in danger for the sole purpose of entertainment and the thrill they get out of it. There is a limit. Once again, I would have been pissed if I had bought it for $40, to see some kids ride their bikes.

other dvds:
bootleg sessions 1&2
there's one about NY Messengers, forgot name.. Ride?
most importantly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIwMGkqa6Sw

sential
07-24-08, 11:31 AM
lol at the quicksilver video... classic

1fluffhead
07-24-08, 11:36 AM
I nominate this thread to be the video Jackass BFSSFG poseur tarck bicyclist of the day thread. Think of it as instead of making fun of the dumbass things people do to their bikes, we can make fun of their dumbass riding techinques.

SeanBonham
07-24-08, 11:44 AM
This is my favorite "trick bike" clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyeaP9sRLrg&eurl=http://www.qbn.com/topics/435710/
MASH got nothing on 1988

Deathhare, I know you used to ride BMX - check out this guys youtube channel, tons of old school BMX clips.
http://www.youtube.com/user/fatboy972

sential
07-24-08, 12:07 PM
I don't see it progressing all that far to be totally honest. Watching someone ride isn't really very exciting compared to actually riding, and as for the whole freestyle thing, I think the bikes are going to become more specialized for doing tricks and you'll start seeing higher bars, smaller frames and a geometry more suited towards pulling tricks than our current fixed gear frames.

I drew up a picture of what these specialized futuristic bikes designed for doing tricks will probably look like.


I could be way off though...

I agree to a certain extent... Like I stated in my original post, i'm not about bar spins and freestyle tricks... 'spose it could be entertaining to do, but looks gimmicky on a track bike, and besides that IS exactly what bmx and freestyle bikes are for. But I think somehow fixed gear riding will find itself. People are getting into it everywhere for a number of reasons, and as people get better, a handful of them will naturally want to compete. Aggressive riding can be captured on video and imo can be inspiring and fun to watch. Maybe fixed gear races could be 'correct' approach, but its a matter of filming it right too, which is a strong point for MASH. For all the jackassery involved, at least the filming is good. I see a lot of race footage and the filming is sh*t...like 50 yards back from the riders. Not entertaining for the viewer at all.

itschrisb
07-24-08, 12:25 PM
Everything really started like this. When skateboards came out im sure it was just people cruising around maybe doing a few manuels and stuff here and there and then some day a "jackass" on a skateboard decided to start flying off curbs and going faster and spinning and everyone just thought of those kids to be idiots ruining skateboarding. Now look at skateboarding. Same with bmx bikes im sure the same thing happen until some kid found out he can get air of your driveway slope and next thing you know his building ramps and getting hurt. And no BMX is at what its at today. And track bikes are now the same thing. First that started as just race bikes then some idiot decided he wanted to ride his on the road. Then another idiot decided he wanted to, too but he wanted to go faster and skid. And the progression goes on. Now we have people in this MASH video being complete "jackasses" bc they are trying to have fun although i agree its in the safety of no one really but sooner or later even that messenger who is doing his job will just be another kid ruining society. Its not the people in the scene that ruin things for each other, well partially, its mostly society that isnt involved not being able to accept the progression of things and being to close minded and stubborn to be willing to accept that they are just kids having fun. Even if that same kid might have just slammed into your brand new BMW and dented. A lot of people are just to up tight and need to relax and realize that no matter how much they hate or want it to go away its not going to go away.

itschrisb
07-24-08, 12:45 PM
With that being said, in this MASH video, so far two of the people in it are truely jackasses and the one needs to come to his senses and just buy a bmx bike already.

elTwitcho
07-24-08, 01:07 PM
Everything really started like this. When skateboards came out im sure it was just people cruising around maybe doing a few manuels and stuff here and there and then some day a "jackass" on a skateboard decided to start flying off curbs and going faster and spinning and everyone just thought of those kids to be idiots ruining skateboarding. Now look at skateboarding. Same with bmx bikes im sure the same thing happen until some kid found out he can get air of your driveway slope and next thing you know his building ramps and getting hurt. And no BMX is at what its at today. And track bikes are now the same thing. First that started as just race bikes then some idiot decided he wanted to ride his on the road. Then another idiot decided he wanted to, too but he wanted to go faster and skid. And the progression goes on. Now we have people in this MASH video being complete "jackasses" bc they are trying to have fun although i agree its in the safety of no one really but sooner or later even that messenger who is doing his job will just be another kid ruining society. Its not the people in the scene that ruin things for each other, well partially, its mostly society that isnt involved not being able to accept the progression of things and being to close minded and stubborn to be willing to accept that they are just kids having fun. Even if that same kid might have just slammed into your brand new BMW and dented. A lot of people are just to up tight and need to relax and realize that no matter how much they hate or want it to go away its not going to go away.

Couple things

1) It isn't about slamming into an SUV or BMW, they can get run over for all I care there's really no problem with that. Every person has the right to put their own safety on the line however they want, if that's being stupid, so be it. The issue is with jumping onto sidewalks at 30 mph where you might hurt SOMEONE ELSE who through no fault of their own can get ****ed up because some genious thinks he looks cool. He doesn't. Hurt yourself, go ahead, but you don't have a right to **** with someone elses safety.

2) "Fixed Gear Freestyle" is not going to progress most likely, it'll probably just go away. Skateboarding and BMXing is not a valid example because skateboarding is where it's at as a result of a progression. What happened with bicycles is basically that you started with the first bicycle, and people changed the design gradually for their uses. One group wanted to start doing tricks, so gradually we got the BMX bike. One group wanted a no bull**** racing machine, so we got track bikes. Eventually, these guys on track bikes are going to start modifying their bikes so they're better for tricks, and we'll just end up with BMXes which have done a pretty good job of progressing (in the correct direction) all on their own. The skateboarding comparison would be more valid if you talked about longboards, and having people bringing their longboards to the half pipe where they're completely unsuited when a whole other type of skateboard evolved specifically for the purpose of doing tricks. It just looks silly.

So don't get me wrong, I don't criticize anyone who wants to do barspins or whatever, do what you want with your bike, that's totally cool as long as you're having fun. But it's my honest opinion that something like this isn't liable to progress when it's seriously just using the wrong tool for the job. No offence meant, some of the tricks do look cool, but as someone gets more serious about doing tricks they'll probably end up on a BMX anyway.

3) Some of it just looks dorky and awkward. The skids going downhill just looked silly for instance. Fixed bikes are probably going to keep getting more popular, and they'll probably keep looking more and more fashionable (and I like the look of hipster tarck bikes) but it's probably going to be more on the riding side than the freestyle side.

SeanBonham
07-24-08, 01:11 PM
^^^ word!
As a person who rode BMX for almost half my life, fixed gear tricks seem so weak. It is actually hilarious to to see people doing the worst wall ride I have ever seen on a tarck bike. BMX bikes have progressed the way they have for a reason! They can take tons of abuse, are agile, and have been evolving over 20 years for the sport. It pains me, this fixed gear trick business.

Jenkinsal2
07-24-08, 01:45 PM
I dont know if you guys are aware of this but a very large portion of the people that are into the fixed freestyle thing actually came from bmx bikes. Hence the reason for the sudden explosion. I would say at most a few bmx parts will migrate to their bikes. Pedals, Cranks, stems and whatever else doesnt end up to the task and gets destroyed will be replaced with something a little stronger out of common sense, most likely with a bmx part that they have laying around or off another bike.

deathhare
07-24-08, 02:09 PM
I dont know if you guys are aware of this but a very large portion of the people that are into the fixed freestyle thing actually came from bmx bikes. .

Thats actually the sad part. I, like SeanBonham, rode BMX forever. I rode for over 15 years and the dumbass things these guys try to do on their track bikes I could do in my sleep on a BMX and i havent been on one in 3 years now. Theyre just stupid tricks period no matter what youre on and the fact that its on a 700c track bike is supposed to be cool? Gimme a ****ing break.
So the harder it is to do it on something that wasnt intended for it makes it cooler or something?
So why are they doing it on track bikes?
Maybe they should try wallrides on stilts or bigwheels. Or go down SF hills standing on donkey's back.

I have never seen anything on any track bike trick video (and ive seen a lot of them and most of the new ones) that would ever be considered hard on the proper bike or that some kid riding BMX for 2 years probably couldnt do.
Its hilarious. Maybe its just the $5 stickers, the $50 t-shirts that really gets people cranked up. Who knows.

itschrisb
07-24-08, 02:26 PM
I see what your saying, i rode bmx bikes for the majority of my life. Im only 20 so i dont have 15 serious years under my belt like a few people posting on here do. But i understand what your saying and i kind of think its stupid that these people are trying so hard to make their fixed gear a bmx bike. I realize that flying down the street and stuff can get boring but if it does then when you get bored pick up your bmx bike and do wallrides and barspins and everything. It just makes more sense. But i guess at the same time things get old and everyone wants something new. Its kind of like people bombing mountain sides on unicycles. Those are definitly in no way meant to be rode down mountains off ledges so on and so forth. But people wanted something new, something that people havent seen before so they went to unicycles. Its the same thing with track bikes. And who knows what will be next. Maybe tandem bikes will become the next thing to try skids and wallrides and barspins on. Its just bc people are bored and want to push limits. It has a part of creativity to it and also a part of stupidity to it.

deathhare
07-24-08, 02:43 PM
Its kind of like people bombing mountain sides on unicycles. Those are definitly in no way meant to be rode down mountains off ledges so on and so forth.

Its true but at least its hardcore and takes serious skill. Kris Holm for example.

itschrisb
07-24-08, 02:48 PM
ill agree with you about that one haha.

The worst part about this is you say that trick progression on fixies isnt going to progress but i think it will. The sole reason is that companies are going to start feeding into it and making frames with different geometries that are going to make it easier to do tricks on. Why? Bc the hipster kids arent going anywhere and they are the ones that are going to be spending the money on these types of frames and parts. Its sad to think but its whats going to happen. Just like the bmx scene right now. Try to find some part that doesnt have the word lite or light in the description. Bc everyone wants a bmx bike that weights less than 20lbs. In reality does "everyone"? no. but the people with the deepest pockets that do so the companies dont care about the other people that want a wheel that isnt 36h or a sprocket that is bigger than 30t and the list goes on. It sucks but its just what happens.

deathhare
07-24-08, 02:55 PM
The worst part about this is you say that trick progression on fixies isnt going to progress

I never said that. Someone else may have though.

I think the "tricks" will progress but theyll always be hokey because there will always be the BMX precedence. Anything you could dream of doing as a track bike trick has already been done on a BMX and was done better, smoother, higher, longer, faster or any other positive adjective you can come up with.

itschrisb
07-24-08, 03:11 PM
And ill agree 100%

middy
07-24-08, 03:23 PM
I never said that. Someone else may have though.

I think the "tricks" will progress but theyll always be hokey because there will always be the BMX precedence. Anything you could dream of doing as a track bike trick has already been done on a BMX and was done better, smoother, higher, longer, faster or any other positive adjective you can come up with.

What about all those tricks where they pedal backwards? Are there fixed gear freestyle BMX bikes?

deathhare
07-24-08, 03:26 PM
What about all those tricks where they pedal backwards? Are there fixed gear freestyle BMX bikes?

There were quite a few flatlanders running fixed gear. Some of them probably still are.
Going backward in flatland, freewheel or not, is as common as going forward.