Electric Bikes - Anyone own a Wilderness BL36?
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And that can help me hook it up? The Batteries came without the wires hooked up and it doesn't show how to plug them together in the small paper that I got.
Thanks for the link but I am a real idiot at things like this and have no clue what any of that means. I have three batteries all in a row with red on left side and black on right. I got a short black wire and a longer red wire and then the connector coming in with a black and a red. I tried to hook things up last night based on that link but the charger just stayed on charge all night well past the charging time. Any help please!!
The first picture in the link is what you want.
It shows one 12v battery with a positive (red) and a negative (black) terminal like in an automobile.
It also shows 4 twelve volt batteries wired in series to equal 48 volts (12v x 4 = 48v). You should be able to see the short jumper cable from the neg. terminal of one battery to the pos. terminal of the next battery. The first and last battery providing the final pos/neg connections,
You asked for a 36v set-up so you want 3 batteries in series wired similarly to the 4 battery set-up. The connections are self explanatory.
If you already have it wired like this your charger may not be a "smart" charger meaning it knows when to shut down. Frankly, you may have the cheaper charger since the vendor supplied batteries that were not even hooked up.
Hope this helps but my disclaimer is I am not an electrician so proceed at your own risk.
ok here we go i have the same kit as you line the batts up in a row they should be blk red blk red blk red the long wires with the trailer connector on the end the blk should goto blk the red should go to red at each end of the outermost batts you should have 2 jumpers use them to connect the batts red to blk red to blk you now have a 36v pack connect the rca female connector to the charger it should be a sonneil charger and it is a smart charger post if you have any more ?
OK sorry been busy this is what I have wired.
The charger goes red for a few hours then blinks red quickly, I have never seen it green except when it is not plugged in to the batteries.
its wired totaly wrong the long wires with the yellow connectors that have the rca charger connector should be like this the black wire should go on the last battery neg or black the red wire plus goes on the other end of last battery red so the yellow connectors should be on the end of eack battery the the jumpers go blk red blk red plug the charger in and it should charge up and turn green if the light flashes it is telling you that it is not wired up right go luck the ripper
its wired totaly wrong the long wires with the yellow connectors that have the rca charger connector should be like this the black wire should go on the last battery neg or black the red wire plus goes on the other end of last battery red
So both yellows are on the last battery?
so the yellow connectors should be on the end of eack battery the the jumpers go blk red blk red plug the charger in and it should charge up and turn green if the light flashes it is telling you that it is not wired up right go luck the ripper
but here you say on each battery?
Thanks for your help but I am now more confused than ever lol. Can you take a picture of yours?
ok this pic should fix it for sure
OK thank you I got it now, my problem is neither my black nor my red yellow capped wires would reach the far battery. I stretched it and it fits but it is a little scary to me right now. Might have to bring the connection to the controller inside the bag. Thanks again for the pic! Waiting on recharge from this morning to see if it goes green!
no problem all will be fine
Well got back and the quick blinking red light is going again...blah. If I unplug it and plug it back in again it goes back to red for a few hours...I have no clue.
it sounds like one of your batts is bad or your charger got shorted when you had the batts missed wired you should call your seller and explain your problem and see if will warranty them
07-28-08, 09:22 PM
I looked at your picture, and they are wired the same way mine are. When you really look at it , they are wired correctly. It might just be your charger. Put a digital voltmeter across each battery separately, make sure they are all about the same voltage, around 13.25 to 13.5 volts, then connect the voltmeter across the 36 volt output of the batteries. Then plug in the charger, the voltage should climb from the measured voltage up to about 40 volts. Here is a part of the www.itselectric.ca (http://www.itselectric.ca) troubleshooting manual:
When I charge the battery there is always a red light there. Is my battery charging?
If the indicator light is not turning green the battery may not be charging properly. The voltage of the battery should be checked using a volt meter. For 36V batteries it should read about 40V when fully charged, and for 48V batteries it should read close to 52V. After charging for a few hours if the appropriate reading is showing then the indicator light is faulty. If not, then there is a problem with the battery and/or charger. Please contact the dealer for further assistance.
Hope this helps
Ok finally got a voltmeter and the batteries are 13.08 each and the entire group is 39.5, I have about 80 miles on it. Still blinks red but after four or five hours now. There is a smidge of green mixed in the blinking. If I go full throttle (but peddling 90% of the time) the LED turns yellow at about 8.5 miles. That seems short, I have since slowed down and can do 17 miles (I do 8.5 then the bike charges for about 1.5 hours and then back 8.5 miles) without hitting yellow but it is obvious in order to go this far I will need different batteries. suggestions?
08-15-08, 11:56 AM
My first post here. I have a WE 36BL kit too and am having charger issues as well. Is yours the Cansai brand? My fist SLA charger that came with my kit didn't work at all, so I sent it back. Took 2 weeks then ItsElectric sent me a Cansai charger. I have to plug it into the wall first then to the batts to get it to charge (red light). Then shortly after it starts that same fast flashing you are talking about. It never turns green with the battery attached. I don't know if these are some kind of peak charger or what, but I don't think either yours or mine are charging fully, which is killing the batteries. I have about 50 miles on my bike (in 2 months thanks to crappy chargers) and 1 commute to work. I talked to a guy at ItsElectric in Canada who just said "oh" when I told him it was a Cansai charger--sounds like they've had some serious QC issues with those. He's supposed to send me a Sonel (sp?) which are supposed to be much better from what I've read. Also, I found that the battey back leads were wired backward from the factory. I replaced those RCA plugs with radio control styleplugs (called Deans plugs) which are very efficient and can handle a lot of current, and won't short on themselves if you accidently touch them together--those RCA-style plugs aren't safe IMHO. My 3 year old son touched the charge lead to the battery lead and burned the &*!! out of his finger and created some serious fireworks, melting the connectors.
Anyhow, it's probably your charger that's at fault. I'm waiting for my replacement charger and new thumb thottle (the plastic thumb paddle broke off when I hit a small bump!). Meanwhile, I bought a cheapy mountain bike on clearance so I have something to ride. It's not fun riding the e-bike with the heavy front wheel unpowered.
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