Fifty Plus (50+) - No sweat

I was thinking about riding 60 miles today, but the no sweat came issue came into play. It was 100 degrees with the heat factor and after 3 hours of riding I noticed I wasn't sweating anymore. I was just starting on my forth bottle when I noticed I wasn't sweating. I was averaging 1 bottle an hour. Two bottles had Hammer heed and one had Perpetuem and the 4th had G2, that Gatorade came out with. I also had 1 banana and 2 ounces of Hammer gel. Anyway, besides my feet burning like hell, I used Gold Bond in my socks, I don't know if it's a good idea to push past 3 hours, in this heat. About the only thing I can think about doing, is to get a Camel Back, but I really don't care for them. What are you doing, to hydrate more than what I did?

It is good that you stopped. Although it sounds like you were drinking enough, for some reason you were heading toward serious trouble. You should probably take it easy fro a while and take on a lot of fluids. Are you having any other issues?

If you have dehydrated- then get plenty of liquids down for the rest of the day. Take a few salty snacks and rest.

On the Camelback. I got one for the Tandem and it is invaluable. Instead of thinking at the start of a climb to drink- then fumble to get the bottle out- then put it back----- I just pull the spout to the mouth and suck. Using the camelback- I find I take enough water but in little sips. Never have to take a long draw on the bottle. Only drawback you may find is if you get one of the Cales that will also take a few bits of clothing. Mine has room for a 2litre sac inside and that is it. Could get a T inside but even that would have to be thin. And I put my energy drink in the camel and plain water in the bottle. Then if I get hot and empty the bottle over my head- I don't get the flys sticking to the sticky residue that is all over my face.

Thanks for replies guys. I haven't been having any problems what so ever and I looked in all my books at home and they don't say anything about it. It's pretty hot, but I never had a problem with that either.
I'll give it another try Sunday and if I have a problem then I'll have to start taking more salt or something to sweat more. If not I'll have to go with the Camel Back, although I think I was getting plenty of water. In the almost 4 hours, I didn't have to take a leak though, so that could be the problem, of not enough water,thanks again.

I have never ridden in 100* heat but above 80 and I make certain that I take at least 1 litre of water an hour. I also drink at least 500mls in the 30 minutes before the ride and try to preload the day before. It does seem to work for me- and The only leak I take on long rides is just before I start out.

Thanks for replies guys. I haven't been having any problems what so ever and I looked in all my books at home and they don't say anything about it. It's pretty hot, but I never had a problem with that either.
I'll give it another try Sunday and if I have a problem then I'll have to start taking more salt or something to sweat more. If not I'll have to go with the Camel Back, although I think I was getting plenty of water. In the almost 4 hours, I didn't have to take a leak though, so that could be the problem, of not enough water,thanks again.

George, It sounds like you stopped in time so there was no problem. But, these are certainly warning symptoms for the onset of dehydration. Can you up your intake of fluids? Are there opportunitites to resupply? Maybe getting the Camelbak is the right solution.

I think you did the right things by stopping early.

Wow - sounds like you may have been close to trouble. Did you feel light headed or confused (more than normal:D).

I have a nygene camel back - I can load the bladder with ice cubes and then fill it up and find even after 2 hours on a hot day I still have some ice in it even after I have consumed all the fluid - the pack seems to insulate it pretty well. On a long ride I carry 2 bottles and the pack. Today it is a century ride and I will have 2 bottles of weak gatoraide mix and 1 nuun tablet in my camel back packed with Ice and water. I carry yubes of gatoraid and Nuun tables so I can mix more brew along the way. Here when it gets humid and in the high 80's I can consume 1 to 1.5 large bottles in 1 hour which sounds about where you are. The load I am carrying will last me for 3 hours before I will refill.

You may want to ask your question around in some other forums as this is curious. My initial reaction is to try a bottle of straight water with you treated waters of diolute the brews as you may be relying too much on fluid calories and loading up on salts. I know from a bad experience that if you don't take electrolites eventually straight water will not hydrate you effectively, I had that happen last summer. What I don't know is whether the opposite is true - if too much can cause you to retain or pass the water too quickly.

Let us know what you find out.

George, consider weighing yourself before and after a ride using a good scale. This can help determine how much fluid loss you have. +1 to what everyone says about hydration, drink lots! Also, the color of your pee can indicate dehydration, too.
I've heard that for every one pound lighter after a ride you should consume 24oz of water over the next several hours. On a hot day, I will be 4 or 5 pounds lighter, but have come home 11 pounds less after a hard day. Felt like crap after that one.
BTW,on some rides I will drink over 200 ounces of liquids.

I believe (caution, no medical degree in sight here) that cessation of sweating is one sign of overheating aka heat exhaustion. Overheating can occur even when we are well hydrated. Especially in hot humid weather, evaporative cooling has its limits. The quick remedy is the obvious: Get to a cooler spot even if it is only shade and turn down the exercise level.

That must feel so weird. I can't imagine it.
I sweat in Olympic amounts when it gets hot. So much people ask if I'm OK. It's just the way I'm wired, an have been since a kid. But I sure ride wet...

Good that you were smart enough to back off. Often when our bodies go our judgment goes with it.

If you're in a situation where you should be sweating, and you stop sweating...you're in serious trouble. It can kill you. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/first-aid-heatstroke/FA00019

Thanks for all the replies guys.
I went out this morning and did intervals and I rode for 30 miles. I was watching my arms and they had sweat on them, but not much. My bibs and jersey were soaked though. I wonder if the sweat on my arms was just evaporating. I always weigh myself before I leave and when I get back. Some times I weigh the same when I get back, so that tells me I'm hydrating enough.
I'm really thinking about the camel back, but I heard they were hard to keep clean and you shouldn't put any mix in them. I guess I could put the mix in the bottle like I do now and just use water in the camel back. I also heard that the camel back is hard on your back and besides that they do look hot too.
Anyhow I went out and hammered pretty good this morning and it was hot as usual, 2 bottles of water mix and I felt pretty good when I got home.
I keep watching myself now that I'm in my senior years and I was a little shook up when I seen I wasn't sweating. The camel back sounds like it may not be a bad idea though, thanks again everybody.
PS I forgot, I'm back down to 195 :D

Thanks for all the replies guys.
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I'm really thinking about the camel back, but I heard they were hard to keep clean and you shouldn't put any mix in them. I guess I could put the mix in the bottle like I do now and just use water in the camel back. I also heard that the camel back is hard on your back and besides that they do look hot too.


The camel back sounds like it may not be a bad idea though, thanks again everybody.
PS I forgot, I'm back down to 195 :D


No problem on keeping clean and I put the additive drink in the camelback. Rinse out after each ride- The same as you would an ordinary bottle- but it does take a little longer. As a back pack-The true camelbacks are well designed and I hardly feel it. Not even the weight of it and just imagine where you would 2 litres of water on the bike aswell. I may get a bit of sweat on the back- but I do not notice it and as to it getting hot- Never had hot water out of the spout and never had a hot back.

Then the emergency cleaning when you forget to empty it for a fortnight. Baby bottle Sterilization tablets. Takes a couple of hours but I do this once a fortnight in any case.

No problem on keeping clean and I put the additive drink in the camelback. Rinse out after each ride- The same as you would an ordinary bottle- but it does take a little longer. As a back pack-The true camelbacks are well designed and I hardly feel it. Not even the weight of it and just imagine where you would 2 litres of water on the bike aswell. I may get a bit of sweat on the back- but I do not notice it and as to it getting hot- Never had hot water out of the spout and never had a hot back.

Then the emergency cleaning when you forget to empty it for a fortnight. Baby bottle Sterilization tablets. Takes a couple of hours but I do this once a fortnight in any case.
Hey stapfam, how is that Iron man hydration pack I see for sale at Probikekit.com fro the UK

Hey stapfam, how is that Iron man hydration pack I see for sale at Probikekit.com fro the UK

I haven't used the Ironman version so cannot personally tell about the Comfort and sweating factors- but they do have a good following over here. And the look of it means that the weight would be better distributed over the back (One of the reasons they have been used in preference to Camelbacks)

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?cat=Triathlon%20Fuel%20Belts%20%2CHydration%20Packs%20and%20Gel%20Holders

Looked at the 2litre and 3 litre and the 3 litre is also a backpack. It can take extra "Stuff" you may want to carry on a ride and to me- this would mean extra weight and possible discomfort. I know that just having the water sac inside may sound like a disadvantage- but if I had extra carrying capacity- all it would do is put extra weight on my back.

And the price is a lot better than the camelbacks

A later version than the one I use is at

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Camelbak_Classic_2_Litre_Hydration_System/5360033563/

I have the 2 liter and the 3 liter and I never use the larger one unless it's really cold and I want to carry a large jacket and extra clothes. I prefer the lighter one and can still carry two bottles on the bike. I don't use one at all if there are plenty of places to get water on the ride.

I just met a friend in the restaurant that's into hiking and he recommended a camel back, because of the availability of parts. I guess the mouth piece wears out, anyway thinks for the replies, again.

George,

I never put anything with calories in my hydration pack - I use my water bottles for that, either straight water or water witha tablet of Nuun. That way I don't have to worry about bad stuff growing in it. My pack does cause some low back pain from time to time but I really like it so I still use it.

Mine is a nygene, I like it because the opening to the bladder is large enough for me to but my hand in it. This allows me to easily pack it with ice cubes. Thats one thing to consider.

George,

I never put anything with calories in my hydration pack - I use my water bottles for that, either straight water or water witha tablet of Nuun. That way I don't have to worry about bad stuff growing in it. My pack does cause some low back pain from time to time but I really like it so I still use it.

Mine is a nygene, I like it because the opening to the bladder is large enough for me to but my hand in it. This allows me to easily pack it with ice cubes. Thats one thing to consider.

I've trying to find a camel back nalgene and I keep coming up with the bottles that are called nalgene. Could you tell me where to get them, thanks.