Triathlon - 2009 Cervelo P2C Ultegra SL rumblings

I've heard some rumors that along with the new paint schemes for the P2C, that there will be an Ultegra SL spec'd version available for around $2700 MSRP. Can anyone out there confirm or deny? I figured that since the '09s are slated to start arriving in Sept/Oct, they must already be in production so someone somewhere has likely seen something? No rush, just hoping for a peek before the big Interbike reveal.

Have heard that the 09s are supposed to have 15 percent price increases. That's why I'm looking for an 08 now. Going to get the frameset, buy the Ultegra package and then replace the derailers with DA because that's the only DA spec I really want.

PS, what have you heard about the new paint schemes?

Take this with a grain of salt, but someone from a shop told me they had recently met with Cervelo. The scoop was that the price would go up on the P2C Ultegra, but due to upgrades (an extra $200) for the SL package. I thought I understood that the basic Ultegra package would still be at roughly a 2.5k price point. As far as the paint goes, I've "heard" that the silver and black will stick around, but that there are two new offerings that should have folks "stirred" up, whatever that means. I'm hoping some more info leaks out before all the '08s are gone, just in case the new line is actually more buck but without a significant increase in bang.

Price is going up on ALL bikes across the board...anyone"leaking" info about their new line is breaching the disclosure agreement they're supposed to adhere to-I love how well that works sometimes...

FWIW, the info I have may or may not be accurate, but has come from two sources. One was a shop, the other can be seen on Cervelo Forums. There is also now a slowtwitch post with actual photos in it. Just curious, but why all the secrecy among the manufacturers?

The cervelo site is updated with pics of the 2009 P2C. Gray and red, although I'm not sure if that's the Dura Ace or Ultegra SL

"The P2 comes standard with the 3T Funda Pro fork. "

It looks like it's only partially updated. Sometimes it's called the P2C, other times the P2. There's also a P1 now.

I noticed all this because I just came home tonight with my new 2008 P2C, and went to the site for my owners manual to see that the old P2C link page is empth. I hope there is a price increase for 09 and I didn't just screw myself out of a fork upgrade. :rolleyes:

I am very glad that I got the 2008 P2C DA build. I like the red/white better than the red/grey. It's been the case for a while now that even the later 2008s came with the 3T. While I wish that I had the 3T fork, I like the Wolf CL black on the paint scheme better than the all red 3T Funda fork.

The 09s are supposed to go up. True you can get the SL rather than base Ultegra. Just be glad you have a terrific bike (a $2500 to $3000 bike), and don't focus on what you don't have. We are lucky to be able to afford such luxuries for our hobby.

PS, what have you heard about the new paint schemes?

Why did I have a feeling they would be red, black, grey, or a combination of the three? Cervelo makes great bikes but they are more than a tad too conservative with color schemes for my taste.

What happened to the Cervelo P2SL?

What happened to the Cervelo P2SL?

Looks like it's now called the P1.

Yep. You can now see the 09 options on online retailer sites like all3sports as well. The Ultegra SL package is really only an upgrade of the front and rear derailleur. I was a little disappointed that the SL crank was not part of the deal, but rather they are sticking with the Gossamer crank. The blue and silver looks nice though. Still, to save the $250 and get the color I wanted I went with the 08 P2C Ultegra.

Agree that the blue grey looks nicer than I thought. (Better than the old Blue Black). The Grey/Black that you got looks like the new P3C color, so you got that going for you.

I still am glad I got the 08 DA version rather than the 09 DA version. Really not loving that new Red/Grey.

Love my bike though. I am averaging more than a mph faster at the same power output (unless I was riding a tailwind, but it didn't feel like it) over my converted Look road bike.

PS, what I really want is a P2C with all white with black lettering. Just plain. Like the Look 595 or one of the new Rs or Ss, cannot recall which. This new naming system seems confusing.

PS, what I really want is a P2C with all white with black lettering. Just plain.

I bet for the right $$$ there are some guys around here who could make that happen for you :)

By the way, do I get any BF brownie points for having the scoop on the P2C Ultegra, maybe a get-away with-being-a-Fred-free card?

Take this with a grain of salt, but someone from a shop told me they had recently met with Cervelo. The scoop was that the price would go up on the P2C Ultegra, but due to upgrades (an extra $200) for the SL package. I thought I understood that the basic Ultegra package would still be at roughly a 2.5k price point. As far as the paint goes, I've "heard" that the silver and black will stick around, but that there are two new offerings that should have folks "stirred" up, whatever that means. I'm hoping some more info leaks out before all the '08s are gone, just in case the new line is actually more buck but without a significant increase in bang.

Not to be cynical, but I'm sure at the OEM level an upgrade to Ultegra SL from Ultegra is probably a few bucks, and it gives Cervelo a chance to bump the price by a couple hundred. I guess it beats just having to up the prices due to production costs without at least giving the consumer the illusion of an upgrade.

Agreed, and a fair assessment. I guess what I should have said is that for the weight savings coupled with my skill level (the bike is way above me) it wasn't worth the money to me. I think the 3T fork upgrade is probably a bonus as well, so all in all at $2750 it's probably still the best bang for the buck. Do I still get a prize ? :)

Not sure if you scooped the blue/grey on Slowtwitch did you, :-)

(sucks to have the same name on both boards).

Enjoy your bike (too bad about the wheel cutout. I just about cried when I saw the paint missing from my horiz drop out, before I even took the wheel off. I knew about the set screws, and had the shop put locktite blue on it. Not sure whether yours or mine came with the longer screws Cervelo now provides).

Ha ha, not sure if I got to the puch first or not, but does Slowtwitch give credits? Yeah that's me over there too, not creative I know. Yep, bummed about the wheel cutout, thought I could rub it out with some compound but no luck - as others have said, guess I should just ride with the rear wheel on.

Is it just me though, or is the P2C paint a little thin? I've had my alu Trek for going on 4 years and I can almost bounce it off the sidewalk without chipping it. I've had this CF P2C for all of 3 days now (and yet to ride it!) and have paint missing from the wheel cutout, front fork dropouts (not just where the skewer connects), and some flaking around the seat post/clamp area. All this I assume from handling in the shop and the two times I've had to transport it on the roof rack. (Okay, wheel cutout was from riding, but in my defense, the shop set the bike up for me, I just went out and test rode it :) )

That was very funny, the dude over there who has the same problem with the wheel cutout but he rides with the wheel on so he doesn't see it. Laughed out loud.

I agree with you, the paint quality seems like it's not the strong point. Not as nice as my 2003 Look, actually, and that bike is ancient. But it is fast, isn't it? The frame itself is worth a 1 and a half mph to me, I swear. At the same wattage, I'm pushing faster mph. Noticed the other day that Nytro offers custom paint schemes on Cervelo. Wonder if they do it for bikes they don't see, if you ship them in. Some day, maybe.

Have to say, that is the one cool thing about the guru website (http://gurubikes.com/enUS/cs/?70000), very cool. Like their bikes too, though dollar for dollar, it's hard to imagine a better deal than the P2C.

So which Cervelo do you think has best bang for the buck? Cervelo P1 or P2?

I went with the P2C because I didn't want to itch for an upgrade later and plan on doing a full iron distance soon, so I wasn't sure how comfortable I would be for that long on an all aluminum ride. That being said I know folks with the current P2SL who absolutely love them, and hear folks who have ridden them for awhile with zero complaints. I think you give up about half a pound on frame weight to the P2C. Both great bikes, I would say it depends on your budget and intended use. A DA equipped P2SL with Race wheels and an aero helmet may do you better than a stock P2C? I don't know though, maybe someone with experience with both will weigh in.