General Cycling Discussion - Trek 1000 vs trek 4500?
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08-06-08, 11:38 PM
I know these are completely different bike, but I was wondering which one you guys would recommend for my purposes.
I intend to ride around campus back and forth between classes as well as in the road. I do intend to ride it a lot (daily) under different weather conditions. The campus is mainly asphalt but I may have to get off the curb quite often and go over soil and grass, so I am mainly looking for the highest quality bike that will endure the beating and last. I looked the 4500 over at the shop today and it seemed king of bulky. I was thinking that since the 1000 is faster, it would be sturdier, but I am not sure how the tires would handle the commutes. It is also cheaper, so that is a plus since I am on a budget.
Do you guys think the 1000 is ok for commuting?
08-07-08, 07:39 AM
Well, I have a 4500 and I don't think I would ever use the word fast in the same sentence with it. It isn't a road bike. The 1000 is an older model. I have never ridden a 1000, so really don't have any suggestion regarding it.
08-07-08, 12:37 PM
I'm not real familiar with either bike. If you are using it for regular commuting have you thought if either of these can handle a rack or panniers. And at a minimum, I would see if they can handle fenders if you are going to ride year round. hate to see you get to class with a string of mud up your shirt.
08-07-08, 01:56 PM
I've rode a Trek 1000 for a few years and the ex-GF I'm still friends with rides a 4500.
The 23mm tires on a Trek 1000 are going to present some difficulties on dirt and in the grass. They also require some care going up and down curbs. I do it all the time but I can't miss and not expect to pinch flat, especially if they haven't been reinflated in a couple of weeks. It's also unlikely that the bike will accomodate anything much larger.
The 4500 is a much tougher bike but like Torgrot mentioned, you're going to give up 4-5 mph. If you swap the knobbies out for some narrow 1.75"-ish semi-slicks or narrower 1.5" slicks though, you might reduce that to a mere 2-3 mph. Something like a 7.X FX would be a good compromise.
And budget for a rack and a small pair of panniers. I ditched the backpack years ago and I will never, ever go back, especially in the hot summer months.
08-07-08, 02:16 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about the 7.2 as well. How does the quality of the 7.2 compare to the 4500 resistance wise? Also, are the tires on the 7.2 any better for commuting than the 1000? One more thing, is the 7.2 faster since the tires are narrower?
Thanks for the help, I am completely new at this and want to make sure I have the right information befe dropping half of my bank account on a bike.
08-07-08, 02:55 PM
The 7.2 will be faster than the 4500 but slower than the 1000. The component spec is more or less the same as the 4500 and a small step below the 1000. It will more or less handle like the 4500 due to its long wheelbase, slack head tube, etc. The stability offered by such a geometry is nice if carrying books on one side and bread on the other. The 1000 will handle much more nimbly, not exactly to the point of being "squirrely" but carrying more than 20-30 lbs. or so on it can get sketchy depending on your bike handling skills.
My foul weather commuter is an upgraded Jamis Aurora whose geometry is closer to a 7.2 but built to carry loads of stuff. My fair weather commuter is a Soma Double Cross whose geometry is closer to the 1000. A cyclocross bike will offer the same intermediate speed and burly construction with more nimble handling. Unfortunately, there aren't many cyclocross bikes to choose from in your price range due to the lack of a sufficient target audience.
I'd probably keep test riding as long as possible. Wait until one of the bikes starts speaking to you. ;)
08-07-08, 03:10 PM
Thanks, it looks like the 7.2 would be a better fit, then. I will have to go by the shop again and assess its overall appeal to me.
Thanks for the help.
08-08-08, 09:32 AM
Realize also that the 7.2 is not a road bike or a mountain bike.
If you think you might want to do the odd 50-100 mile charity event at some point in the future, you should consider sacrificing off road performance as the 7.2 will make for a very long day in the saddle.
If hitting the trails with some friends every once in a while sounds like fun, giving up some speed might be the way to go since the 7.2 can get by on the easy stuff but will leave you walking anything technical.
08-08-08, 10:56 AM
why not get a cyclocross bike. its a slightly more rigid bike with higher BB and tougher rims that will accommodate bigger tires. it would be fine off and on road and not be that bad off road on what you have described
08-08-08, 12:55 PM
cache, you are saying that I should go for the 1000? I do intend to take it on long rides. I would estimate about 1hr riding a day mostly on the sidewalk or road. The 7.2 seems better suited than the 4500 for this, don'y you think? I did similar riding on a mountain bike before, so I think it will be an improvement regardless.
08-08-08, 12:59 PM
I will also be carrying a bookbag all the time, so the bent position in a road bike my be too strenuous.
08-08-08, 04:07 PM
I do intend to take it on long rides.
When I think of long rides I think of 4-5 hours. Covering 75 miles in four hours on a road bike like the 1000 is a lot easier (like 20% easier :p) than five hours on a hybrid like the 7.2. I'll do one hour road rides on anything except knobbies. Sounds like the 7.2 is probably a better fit that the 1000 and, if anything, the 4500 with some 1.5" slicks is the alternate to be considered.
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