BMX - Trek Sub Vert 1.0g- Decent bike?

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Stephen2
08-09-08, 07:54 AM
I am 240#'s. My son just upgraded to a 20" bike. I would like to ride a bit with him. (I am no BMX'er. Just bunny hops and tiny jumps.)

Does this seem to be a somewhat decent price on this bike? ($75)

http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trekoy3.jpg

I dont really want a Walmart bike as the assembly sucks and i am afraid that the bike would break under my weight.

Thanks for any help!

http://www.bikepedia.com/Quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=1997&Brand=Trek&Model=Sub-Vert+1.0G+(02)&Type=bike


Punx
08-09-08, 09:45 AM
No. I have seen bikes like that for cheaper.
I would reccomend this bike since it's the cheapest i could find and strong.
http://www.danscomp.com/101070.php?cat=BIKES

Street rider
08-09-08, 10:15 AM
that trek looks like it would snap in half under your weight. especially the stupid 1 pc crank. dont get it.


Stephen2
08-09-08, 10:28 AM
that trek looks like it would snap in half under your weight. especially the stupid 1 pc crank. dont get it.

Are you saying i am fat!

J/K. I am.

I really dont want to spend more than $80. I might even spend $100. Mainly just riding up and down the street like when i was a teen. I still have my bike from then but it needs rebuilt (brakes, tubes and tires). The bike shop said it wasnt worth it.

Am i just dreaming? I thought this might be decent as it is a Trek.

Thanks!

(I started a diet today though.)

jYm3s
08-09-08, 10:50 AM
homie jus go to craigslist.com n search ur area
u can find a good bike for the right $$$

Stephen2
08-09-08, 06:18 PM
homie jus go to craigslist.com n search ur area
u can find a good bike for the right $$$

Yep. Thats what im doing. Problem is, it is hard for me to separate the crap from the less-crappy. I dont know what prices are good and what is a rip-off.

Maybe i need this because i am a fat boy:
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/bik/786876393.html

Street rider
08-09-08, 07:14 PM
just make sure that the bike is full chromo. thats a must.

Stephen2
08-09-08, 07:21 PM
just make sure that the bike is full chromo. thats a must.

That is what i thought.

No seriously. What is chromo? I did a search and see medical terms... I am dumb.

*edit- i think i have found it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromoly

How can i know? Thanks for the tip!

Street rider
08-09-08, 08:04 PM
yea thats it. its just a steel-alloy. and its stronger than aluminum or hi-ten steel.

and if you look at the specs of a bike, it will usually say chromo frame and fork. just remember, the more chromo, the better. and full chromo is the best.

Stephen2
08-11-08, 11:07 AM
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/bik/790727464.html

Dad selling sons bike. Son says it is a hoffman EP. Worth it?

FuzzyRyder
08-11-08, 11:29 AM
pos

Street rider
08-11-08, 11:45 AM
im with fuzzy

Red Horn
08-11-08, 12:54 PM
I know you are looking to only shell out a Franklin. But, this is what I suggest; http://www.danscomp.com/101408.php?cat=BIKES

It will hold up to just about any riding you do and would probably be a step up for your son when he out grows his :). The old adage "you get what you pay for" holds true in BMX.

Street rider
08-11-08, 02:55 PM
yea it does. the more expensive the parts, the better they are, and the longer they last.

Stephen2
08-11-08, 03:13 PM
I know you are looking to only shell out a Franklin. But, this is what I suggest; http://www.danscomp.com/101408.php?cat=BIKES

It will hold up to just about any riding you do and would probably be a step up for your son when he out grows his :). The old adage "you get what you pay for" holds true in BMX.

I can appreciate what you are saying.

I had planned on putting new brakes and tires/tubes on my old bike until the guy at the bike shop told me it was a $60 department store bike. Besides taking it off of 48" ramps, i never did much more with it. I mean i never raced or did freestyle. Just tiny little ramps pretending i was cool.

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/murray/4732

I abused the bike and never had a problem. I had hoped it was at least somewhat decent to make it worth the cost of making it usable. My thinking is that these bikes at walmart wouldnt even take everyday riding. I dont want to spend money on a bike that is crap. I mean according to the guy at the store my bike was crap, but it lasted. Brakes and tires didnt though... I just have a feeling that walmarts bikes are even more crappy than 20 years ago...

I just want to ride with my boy. It wouldnt even be off the pavement. I have a mountain bike but i cant bunny hop that beast. I feel my age when i ride it.

Its hard for me to justify spending the cash when i am probably going to ride less than 100 miles total. I don't think i would go off of a jump of more than 12". I am so much heavier than i was before and i don't want to embarrass myself. I am not quite as brave as i once was.

It is hard for me to tell good from bad. I have read that it is better to buy used than to buy the department store stuff when on a budget.

I can fork down the cash for a decent bike, i would rather just buy another gun though. I would use it more than the bike. I stopped at the local bike shop hoping for a used 20". Cha, nothing appeared used there! They did have a few 20" and of course seeing as how i am the prime age the DK General Lee caught my eye. $219 i think.

I was noticing the first bike suggested above. The DK eight pack. I am guessing the 8 pack is heavier duty than the 4 pack?

I sincerely appreciate all of the feedback, suggestions and help. Ignorance is not bliss at the moment.

Street rider
08-11-08, 03:21 PM
if all you're gonna be doing is riding down the street, then maybe you should just go with the general lee. that would suit your purposes pretty well.

Stephen2
08-11-08, 03:31 PM
It doesn't come with the horn though.

I liked the idea of giving it to my boy later, but i doubt it would be good for him. He is very afraid of everything. I tried to have him go off of a 5" high long ramp and he thought i was nuts.

*edit as i was unclear...

Street rider
08-11-08, 04:44 PM
force him to hahaha. tell him that if he doesnt, he'll be grounded for 2 weeks hahahahahaha.

Red Horn
08-11-08, 05:00 PM
The General Lee is not full CroMo. The one I mentioned is probably one of the best values in a versatile bike. Your son is probably just a little timid now which is a good thing. Fear is a safety net and it is better to have it and develop courage. Kids that don't have a grasp of real danger are the ones that wind up hurt. The Wrap should be sturdy enough for you and you son when he's ready. Also a quality bike will be more reliable than used, ride nicer and you'll find yourself riding more than you thought. Pounds will melt away. :thumb:Good luck.

ascend
08-12-08, 04:39 AM
If you're just gonna be riding up and down the street with your kid, any old thing will do as long as its got grease on the bearings and air in the tyres.

Stephen2
08-12-08, 07:44 AM
Can anyone point me to a web page or something that tells me what parts to look at in buying a bike.

I have gathered that one piece cranks arent such a good thing. I had one in my bike, and never had a problem. Of course i didnt wreck much.

I am planning on looking at a bike later today- what should i look for?

Thanks!

PRIMO22
08-12-08, 08:17 AM
Can anyone point me to a web page or something that tells me what parts to look at in buying a bike.

I have gathered that one piece cranks arent such a good thing. I had one in my bike, and never had a problem. Of course i didnt wreck much.

I am planning on looking at a bike later today- what should i look for?

Thanks!

Sealed bearings, 3 piece cranks, full chromo or at least mostly chromo

Stephen2
08-12-08, 08:20 AM
Thanks!

How can i tell if something has sealed bearings?

Can i tell if a bike has any chromo by just looking at it?

I am planning on looking at some bikes later today. I want to be prepared.

minichamp31
08-12-08, 08:37 AM
It should say somewhere on the bike, like the seattube if it's full chromo. Not sure though, just ask.

Stephen2
08-12-08, 09:13 AM
Someone near me has a "new" DK eight pack for $200. Bought 4 months ago. Rode a few times. Maybe i will check it out...

Punx
08-12-08, 09:15 AM
A dk 8 pack new is $260. You can use a 10% code and get it for like a lot cheaper or use a free shipping code on dan's comp. I'm not sure if that's worth it, what year?

Stephen2
08-12-08, 09:39 AM
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/bik/779969988.html

It would probably cost me about $10 in gas too. Its about 40 miles away. I was thinking the price of $275 seemed a bit too much for new. Of course you have to figure tax at local shops...

It is not new if it has been ridden like that.

Red Horn
08-12-08, 10:46 AM
If you're just gonna be riding up and down the street with your kid, any old thing will do
I would like to ride a bit with him. (I am no BMX'er. Just bunny hops and tiny jumps.)
Someone near me has a "new" DK eight pack, Maybe i will check it out... for $200 If it's an 08 it should of come with a 48 spoke rear wheel that will be good for your stature and should work for you, unless you're over 5'9". Technically a 20.75" top tube frame would be right for you then. Once again if you can stretch another buck thirty the Stolen Wrap is full CroMo and will be stronger.

FuzzyRyder
08-12-08, 10:48 AM
Stay away from hi-tensil trash!

Red Horn
08-12-08, 10:52 AM
Stay away from hi-tensile trash! :cry::crash::cry::crash::cry:

Stephen2
08-12-08, 04:39 PM
I dont know what i got, but i got it. What can i say? I am impatient.

I looked at a bike today and picked it up. I paid $125 as the guy wouldn't budge after his son told him how much was put into the bike previously. I do know this. (Prepare for your disappointment...) No sealed bearings and a one piece crank.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7264/hpim0689zu5.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0689zu5.jpg) http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7913/hpim0688pp5.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0688pp5.jpg)
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3523/hpim0687ae7.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0687ae7.jpg) http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6206/hpim0690ol4.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0690ol4.jpg)

Here is how it is. I would have paid $90-$160 for a walmart bike. This bikes seems really solid. I don't like these pegs and the wheelbase seems too small for me. Something was mentioned about height. I am 6' 0". Maybe this bike is too small. Whatever it is, i am pleased. I would rather have this than the walmart bike. I paid $86 for my kids and it is a poc. He is so happy though. Now, that is all that matters.

The label says Hoffman Flatland EP, "Special Length" 33"-34.5". Does that mean it is especially short?

Oh yeah, i am 230# not 240#. I thought i was fatter than i am now. I started my diet today and weighed in this morning. 50+ more to go...

Stephen2
08-12-08, 06:32 PM
After comparing the bike to my old bike, the wheelbase seems the same. It is amazing how stout this bike is built! I can see so many difference between it and my old one. Even more compared to this walmart bike! In fact, my sons walmart bike was rode once and the brakes are not properly adjusted so i am seriously contemplating just returning it and giving him this white one. I wouldnt feel so nervous riding this. The walmart one made me really nervous.

I appreciate the info. I never knew what i was looking at. At least now i have a bit of a better idea. Maybe now i will start looking for another bike... I bet these newb posts are annoying as he**...