condor63
02-12-04, 01:40 PM
What would be the preferred for road biking with ease of entry and exit plus being good on the knees.Let me know thanks.
Road Cycling - Crankbrothers Candy series or Speedplay Frogs pedals.
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mymilkexpired
02-12-04, 04:30 PM
I like the look of the candy series myself, but to answer your question... i dont know :D
Murf524
02-12-04, 04:46 PM
Don't know about the candys absolutely love my frogs. We've had a 4 year relationship with nary a problem.
Limba
02-12-04, 04:55 PM
Why get the Candies over the reg.Eggs?The platform is only there for guys that don't like being clipped in while riding technical trails.I would get the regular Eggs.I have the Ti.Eggs on my 'cross bike and I love them.
Speedplay Frogs are mountain pedals too.Why don't you get some road pedals?
Speedplay makes popular road pedals too.
Speedplay Frogs are mountain pedals too.Why don't you get some road pedals?
Speedplay makes popular road pedals too.
condor63
02-12-04, 05:17 PM
I heard that the regular Egbeaters cause hot spots when riding due to there small contact area. Just wanted to confirm, seem's I'm gonna go with the frogs.
Limba
02-12-04, 05:18 PM
But why mtn.pedals?Why not Time,Look,Speedplay road pedals?
condor63
02-12-04, 05:23 PM
Called Spedplay and they did confirm Frogs being designed for road/dirt but gives the recessed cleat design for ease of walking. Seem's lots of road bikers are using Frogs. I do believe that the Speedplay Cleat II's are now being used on all there models.
skiahh
02-12-04, 08:57 PM
I've got frogs on both my bikes. I love the lack of spring. Strangely, I can get into SPDs but I can't get out! I can get into and out of the frogs without even thinking about it. Plus I can walk normally.
condor63
02-13-04, 10:37 AM
Just purchased a New pair of Frog's with the redesigned cleats/ cleats II on Ebay for $90.00 with shipping out the door. I saw it and jumped, I don't believe these deals come very often-got lucky.Thanks for the imputs.:)
hsjb
02-13-04, 03:08 PM
What would be the preferred for road biking with ease of entry and exit plus being good on the knees.Let me know thanks.
Based on what people say here, I just got some Frogs yesterday. So far, I love them! The float is great and I don't notice the "walking on ice" feeling that people talk about.
Based on what people say here, I just got some Frogs yesterday. So far, I love them! The float is great and I don't notice the "walking on ice" feeling that people talk about.
Avalanche325
02-13-04, 03:20 PM
You will only get hot spots if you have shoes that flex. The sole of the shoe is the platform, not the pedal. The pedal is just the connection.
nathank
02-16-04, 09:15 AM
You will only get hot spots if you have shoes that flex. The sole of the shoe is the platform, not the pedal. The pedal is just the connection.
exactly.
i have used Frogs for about 3 years on 3 bikes - MTB, road, commuter and been very happy.
last year one of my frogs broke during a multi-day race/tour (i consider it ok and not a quality/design "problem" as they had LOTS of miles in mud) and i had to buy pedals from what was instantly available. i bought the Crank Brothers Eggbeaters...
I am now riding Eggbeaters on 3 bikes (normal eggbeaters on my MTB race, platform "Mallet C" on MTB Freeride and commuter) and Frogs on the road.
both are great pedals - way better than Shimano SPDs... and i would never use "normal" road pedals...
Frogs definitely have more float...
both are very light and very simple... roughly same price i think, both with expensive ultra-lightweight Ti versions...
i also like that the Crank Brothers use a different metal for the cleats (brass or copper) that softer than the pedals, so the cleats wears out without wearing down the pedal much.
Why get the Candies over the reg.Eggs?The platform is only there for guys that don't like being clipped in while riding technical trails.I would get the regular Eggs.
i would agree. i use the regular Eggbeaters on my race MTB...
exactly.
i have used Frogs for about 3 years on 3 bikes - MTB, road, commuter and been very happy.
last year one of my frogs broke during a multi-day race/tour (i consider it ok and not a quality/design "problem" as they had LOTS of miles in mud) and i had to buy pedals from what was instantly available. i bought the Crank Brothers Eggbeaters...
I am now riding Eggbeaters on 3 bikes (normal eggbeaters on my MTB race, platform "Mallet C" on MTB Freeride and commuter) and Frogs on the road.
both are great pedals - way better than Shimano SPDs... and i would never use "normal" road pedals...
Frogs definitely have more float...
both are very light and very simple... roughly same price i think, both with expensive ultra-lightweight Ti versions...
i also like that the Crank Brothers use a different metal for the cleats (brass or copper) that softer than the pedals, so the cleats wears out without wearing down the pedal much.
Why get the Candies over the reg.Eggs?The platform is only there for guys that don't like being clipped in while riding technical trails.I would get the regular Eggs.
i would agree. i use the regular Eggbeaters on my race MTB...
hair07
02-16-04, 09:35 AM
i've been thinking about getting some clipless pedals for my bike as well. it is a fixed gear road bike that i ride for just about everything: trips to grocery store, daily commuter, afterwork rides, weekend long distance road rides, etc. i would like to be able to get to the grocer and record store w/o having to wear special bike shoes, but on the weekend, i would very much like to be able to clip in and really crank away up hills and whatnot. being clipped in also helps on stopping in that one is able to resist the motion of the pedals in both positions. this is helpful on the fixed gear.
so my question is: are the crank bro's candy pedals suitable for this? could i just hop on for short lazy rides to the grocer and around town or possibly on a 3 mile commute to work each day? would it be uncomfortable? is the 'unclipped' surface area too small, posiing a danger of my feet slipping off while starting up from a stoplight?
does anyone out there ride these pedals w/o being clipped in for any length of time/distance, or is that just silly? thanks for any and all help
dan
so my question is: are the crank bro's candy pedals suitable for this? could i just hop on for short lazy rides to the grocer and around town or possibly on a 3 mile commute to work each day? would it be uncomfortable? is the 'unclipped' surface area too small, posiing a danger of my feet slipping off while starting up from a stoplight?
does anyone out there ride these pedals w/o being clipped in for any length of time/distance, or is that just silly? thanks for any and all help
dan
nathank
02-16-04, 10:35 AM
hey hair07,
what is even better are the Crank Brother's "Mallet C" platform eggbeater pedals. they are normal eggbeaters with a HEFTY platform for Freeriding... but they are also lighter than the normal Shimano pedals (i forgot, but i think like 400grams, verses like 250g for the normal eggbeaters)
i bought these for Freeriding and liked them so much and having had the similar wish to yours, i now have a pair on my commuter - so 80% of the time i ride with clipless shoes, but then i can ride in running shoes or hiking boots. the mallets are VERY large and very comofortable with normal shoes. the only potential problem with the Mallets is that they could destroy your shins. of course, they have removable "grip plates" that you could take off...
i have not tried the candy's but the Mallets are not much heavier (unless you're racing it's not a bigger). but the Mallets are certainly more comfortable as the platform is MUCH larger and i has a grippy surface.
my only worry now is that someone might steal them from my commuter!
what is even better are the Crank Brother's "Mallet C" platform eggbeater pedals. they are normal eggbeaters with a HEFTY platform for Freeriding... but they are also lighter than the normal Shimano pedals (i forgot, but i think like 400grams, verses like 250g for the normal eggbeaters)
i bought these for Freeriding and liked them so much and having had the similar wish to yours, i now have a pair on my commuter - so 80% of the time i ride with clipless shoes, but then i can ride in running shoes or hiking boots. the mallets are VERY large and very comofortable with normal shoes. the only potential problem with the Mallets is that they could destroy your shins. of course, they have removable "grip plates" that you could take off...
i have not tried the candy's but the Mallets are not much heavier (unless you're racing it's not a bigger). but the Mallets are certainly more comfortable as the platform is MUCH larger and i has a grippy surface.
my only worry now is that someone might steal them from my commuter!
hair07
02-16-04, 11:24 AM
hey hair07,
what is even better are the Crank Brother's "Mallet C" platform eggbeater pedals. they are normal eggbeaters with a HEFTY platform for Freeriding... but they are also lighter than the normal Shimano pedals (i forgot, but i think like 400grams, verses like 250g for the normal eggbeaters)
i bought these for Freeriding and liked them so much and having had the similar wish to yours, i now have a pair on my commuter - so 80% of the time i ride with clipless shoes, but then i can ride in running shoes or hiking boots. the mallets are VERY large and very comofortable with normal shoes. the only potential problem with the Mallets is that they could destroy your shins. of course, they have removable "grip plates" that you could take off...
i have not tried the candy's but the Mallets are not much heavier (unless you're racing it's not a bigger). but the Mallets are certainly more comfortable as the platform is MUCH larger and i has a grippy surface.
my only worry now is that someone might steal them from my commuter!
nathank,
thank you very much for the suggestion. i have seen the mallet pedals and they look very nice(and are cheaper than the other egg beater varieties). my main worry w/ them is that they look wider than the other egg beaters, including the candy's. my concern being that i'm riding a fixed gear bike and cornering can get a bit iffy w/ big ol pedals. maybe you could tell me: do they seem wider than other pedals, or am i mistaken. i have no first hand experience w/ any of these pedals, just what ive seen on the internet. thanks again for your help.
dan
what is even better are the Crank Brother's "Mallet C" platform eggbeater pedals. they are normal eggbeaters with a HEFTY platform for Freeriding... but they are also lighter than the normal Shimano pedals (i forgot, but i think like 400grams, verses like 250g for the normal eggbeaters)
i bought these for Freeriding and liked them so much and having had the similar wish to yours, i now have a pair on my commuter - so 80% of the time i ride with clipless shoes, but then i can ride in running shoes or hiking boots. the mallets are VERY large and very comofortable with normal shoes. the only potential problem with the Mallets is that they could destroy your shins. of course, they have removable "grip plates" that you could take off...
i have not tried the candy's but the Mallets are not much heavier (unless you're racing it's not a bigger). but the Mallets are certainly more comfortable as the platform is MUCH larger and i has a grippy surface.
my only worry now is that someone might steal them from my commuter!
nathank,
thank you very much for the suggestion. i have seen the mallet pedals and they look very nice(and are cheaper than the other egg beater varieties). my main worry w/ them is that they look wider than the other egg beaters, including the candy's. my concern being that i'm riding a fixed gear bike and cornering can get a bit iffy w/ big ol pedals. maybe you could tell me: do they seem wider than other pedals, or am i mistaken. i have no first hand experience w/ any of these pedals, just what ive seen on the internet. thanks again for your help.
dan
halfspeed
02-16-04, 10:02 PM
But why mtn.pedals?Why not Time,Look,Speedplay road pedals?
Frogs are lighter than most road pedals and you can walk on them without waddling. They're cheaper than Speedplay road pedals and you can walk on them without waddling. Unless there's a compelling racing reason for "road" pedals and you're planning on racing, a better question would be: Why Time, Look, Speedplay road?
Frogs are lighter than most road pedals and you can walk on them without waddling. They're cheaper than Speedplay road pedals and you can walk on them without waddling. Unless there's a compelling racing reason for "road" pedals and you're planning on racing, a better question would be: Why Time, Look, Speedplay road?
khuon
02-17-04, 02:12 AM
I used to ride with Frogs on my road bike but the cleats didn't work too well with my road shoes and I never could get used to the feeling of totally free float. I also didn't like the toe-first entry. I switched to Speedplay Zeros. This is nothing against the Frog design itself. It's rugged and works well in all conditions. I just had personal issues with them. However, while you're contemplating Frogs and Eggbeaters, you might also want to check out Time ATACs. I have the original ATACs on my MTB and love them. I haven't tried the new ATAC XS or Z pedals yet though but they too look to be excellent products.
Limba
02-17-04, 08:16 AM
He already bought the pedals.
btw Time has a cafe cleat so you don't waddle when you walk.
btw Time has a cafe cleat so you don't waddle when you walk.
khuon
02-17-04, 12:37 PM
He already bought the pedals.
btw Time has a cafe cleat so you don't waddle when you walk.
I know the OP did but there were others contemplating the same decisions.
btw Time has a cafe cleat so you don't waddle when you walk.
I know the OP did but there were others contemplating the same decisions.
ChiliDog
02-17-04, 12:49 PM
Long live Frogs on road, hybrid, and mountain bike! There is nothing like 'em! Total ease, total comfort.
nathank
02-17-04, 02:16 PM
nathank,
thank you very much for the suggestion. i have seen the mallet pedals and they look very nice(and are cheaper than the other egg beater varieties). my main worry w/ them is that they look wider than the other egg beaters, including the candy's. my concern being that i'm riding a fixed gear bike and cornering can get a bit iffy w/ big ol pedals. maybe you could tell me: do they seem wider than other pedals, or am i mistaken. i have no first hand experience w/ any of these pedals, just what ive seen on the internet. thanks again for your help.
hey dan,
well, yeah, they are wider - actually i wasn't sure if you mean longer as in sticking out to the sides or wider as in front/back.
the answer is yes, for both:
longer to the sides by about 1" from the regular eggbeaters, although for my size 11 foot they're still not really any wider than my shoe (of course the shoe sits up higher so for clearance maybe still significant)
and as to "wider" front/back - yeah obviously as it's a platform.
anyway, as i've still never gotten around to building up a fixie (want to but i already have 5 bikes! a fixie, a folding bike and tandom would all like to have - recumbant i can do without) i can't really say if they'd be much of a problem. they are bigger is all 3 directions that all clipless pedals and also most regular platforms - they are really beefy.
thank you very much for the suggestion. i have seen the mallet pedals and they look very nice(and are cheaper than the other egg beater varieties). my main worry w/ them is that they look wider than the other egg beaters, including the candy's. my concern being that i'm riding a fixed gear bike and cornering can get a bit iffy w/ big ol pedals. maybe you could tell me: do they seem wider than other pedals, or am i mistaken. i have no first hand experience w/ any of these pedals, just what ive seen on the internet. thanks again for your help.
hey dan,
well, yeah, they are wider - actually i wasn't sure if you mean longer as in sticking out to the sides or wider as in front/back.
the answer is yes, for both:
longer to the sides by about 1" from the regular eggbeaters, although for my size 11 foot they're still not really any wider than my shoe (of course the shoe sits up higher so for clearance maybe still significant)
and as to "wider" front/back - yeah obviously as it's a platform.
anyway, as i've still never gotten around to building up a fixie (want to but i already have 5 bikes! a fixie, a folding bike and tandom would all like to have - recumbant i can do without) i can't really say if they'd be much of a problem. they are bigger is all 3 directions that all clipless pedals and also most regular platforms - they are really beefy.
hair07
02-17-04, 02:21 PM
hey dan,
well, yeah, they are wider - actually i wasn't sure if you mean longer as in sticking out to the sides or wider as in front/back.
the answer is yes, for both:
longer to the sides by about 1" from the regular eggbeaters, although for my size 11 foot they're still not really any wider than my shoe (of course the shoe sits up higher so for clearance maybe still significant)
and as to "wider" front/back - yeah obviously as it's a platform.
anyway, as i've still never gotten around to building up a fixie (want to but i already have 5 bikes! a fixie, a folding bike and tandom would all like to have - recumbant i can do without) i can't really say if they'd be much of a problem. they are bigger is all 3 directions that all clipless pedals and also most regular platforms - they are really beefy.
thank you nathank. they pretty much seem like exactly what i'm looking for, but sound a little too large. if i can ever find a bike store that keeps them in stock i'd be very interested to see them in person and see how they measure up to regular platform pedals. again, thanks for your help.
dan
well, yeah, they are wider - actually i wasn't sure if you mean longer as in sticking out to the sides or wider as in front/back.
the answer is yes, for both:
longer to the sides by about 1" from the regular eggbeaters, although for my size 11 foot they're still not really any wider than my shoe (of course the shoe sits up higher so for clearance maybe still significant)
and as to "wider" front/back - yeah obviously as it's a platform.
anyway, as i've still never gotten around to building up a fixie (want to but i already have 5 bikes! a fixie, a folding bike and tandom would all like to have - recumbant i can do without) i can't really say if they'd be much of a problem. they are bigger is all 3 directions that all clipless pedals and also most regular platforms - they are really beefy.
thank you nathank. they pretty much seem like exactly what i'm looking for, but sound a little too large. if i can ever find a bike store that keeps them in stock i'd be very interested to see them in person and see how they measure up to regular platform pedals. again, thanks for your help.
dan
yoni
03-06-04, 09:36 PM
i've been thinking about getting some clipless pedals for my bike as well. it is a fixed gear road bike that i ride for just about everything: trips to grocery store, daily commuter, afterwork rides, weekend long distance road rides, etc. i would like to be able to get to the grocer and record store w/o having to wear special bike shoes, but on the weekend, i would very much like to be able to clip in and really crank away up hills and whatnot. being clipped in also helps on stopping in that one is able to resist the motion of the pedals in both positions. this is helpful on the fixed gear.
so my question is: are the crank bro's candy pedals suitable for this? could i just hop on for short lazy rides to the grocer and around town or possibly on a 3 mile commute to work each day? would it be uncomfortable? is the 'unclipped' surface area too small, posiing a danger of my feet slipping off while starting up from a stoplight?
does anyone out there ride these pedals w/o being clipped in for any length of time/distance, or is that just silly? thanks for any and all help
dan
Anyone come up w/the Answer to hair07's question? I'm also inclined towards getting some Candy SLs and will probably ride them w/cleated shoes most of the time, but I'd like to have the option to hop on in street shoes. Is the platform there mainly to give you something to push on when you miss the clip-in, or is it feasible for riding around town? Anybody? Anybody?
Thanks.
so my question is: are the crank bro's candy pedals suitable for this? could i just hop on for short lazy rides to the grocer and around town or possibly on a 3 mile commute to work each day? would it be uncomfortable? is the 'unclipped' surface area too small, posiing a danger of my feet slipping off while starting up from a stoplight?
does anyone out there ride these pedals w/o being clipped in for any length of time/distance, or is that just silly? thanks for any and all help
dan
Anyone come up w/the Answer to hair07's question? I'm also inclined towards getting some Candy SLs and will probably ride them w/cleated shoes most of the time, but I'd like to have the option to hop on in street shoes. Is the platform there mainly to give you something to push on when you miss the clip-in, or is it feasible for riding around town? Anybody? Anybody?
Thanks.
khuon
03-06-04, 11:34 PM
Anyone come up w/the Answer to hair07's question? I'm also inclined towards getting some Candy SLs and will probably ride them w/cleated shoes most of the time, but I'd like to have the option to hop on in street shoes. Is the platform there mainly to give you something to push on when you miss the clip-in, or is it feasible for riding around town? Anybody? Anybody?
The Candy SL body won't provide a whole lot of support. They're not full platforms. They do provide a marginal level of support to help you keep momentum going while you're trying to clip in but it's meant as a temporary measure.
The exposed mechanism will most likely cause a bit of aggravation if they don't have something to engage with. If you want to ride with regular shoes, you will probably want an adapter like the following:
http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/pd1125_lg.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/instep_spd.html)http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/PD1150.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/decksters.html)
I know they say they're for SPD cleats but you should be able to mount Eggbeater/Candy cleats or any other SPD-style 2-bolt cleats to them as well.
The Candy SL body won't provide a whole lot of support. They're not full platforms. They do provide a marginal level of support to help you keep momentum going while you're trying to clip in but it's meant as a temporary measure.
The exposed mechanism will most likely cause a bit of aggravation if they don't have something to engage with. If you want to ride with regular shoes, you will probably want an adapter like the following:
http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/pd1125_lg.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/instep_spd.html)http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/PD1150.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/decksters.html)
I know they say they're for SPD cleats but you should be able to mount Eggbeater/Candy cleats or any other SPD-style 2-bolt cleats to them as well.
yoni
03-07-04, 02:32 AM
The Candy SL body won't provide a whole lot of support. They're not full platforms. They do provide a marginal level of support to help you keep momentum going while you're trying to clip in but it's meant as a temporary measure.
The exposed mechanism will most likely cause a bit of aggravation if they don't have something to engage with. If you want to ride with regular shoes, you will probably want an adapter like the following:
http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/pd1125_lg.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/instep_spd.html)http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/PD1150.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/decksters.html)
I know they say they're for SPD cleats but you should be able to mount Eggbeater/Candy cleats or any other SPD-style 2-bolt cleats to them as well.
Hmmm.. well in that case, maybe I oughtta just get the Eggbeaters and make sure to wear my shoes or get the Winwood thingies... Though buying the adapters and the extra cleats, that'll add up.
Or I could go for the Mallets. But, I hate to say it, I don't think I could handle the way they'd look on my Bianchi road bike..
Anyway, thanks for the add'l info..
Y.
The exposed mechanism will most likely cause a bit of aggravation if they don't have something to engage with. If you want to ride with regular shoes, you will probably want an adapter like the following:
http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/pd1125_lg.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/instep_spd.html)http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/images/PD1150.jpg (http://www.winwoodbikeparts.com/decksters.html)
I know they say they're for SPD cleats but you should be able to mount Eggbeater/Candy cleats or any other SPD-style 2-bolt cleats to them as well.
Hmmm.. well in that case, maybe I oughtta just get the Eggbeaters and make sure to wear my shoes or get the Winwood thingies... Though buying the adapters and the extra cleats, that'll add up.
Or I could go for the Mallets. But, I hate to say it, I don't think I could handle the way they'd look on my Bianchi road bike..
Anyway, thanks for the add'l info..
Y.