Bicycle Mechanics - poll - the most significant inventions in the last 15-20 year in biking

Bikeforums.net is a forum about nothing but bikes. Our community can help you find information about hard-to-find and localized information like bicycle tours, specialties like where in your area to have your recumbent bike serviced, or what are the best bicycle tires and seats for the activities you use your bike for.




ninja2
08-19-08, 06:11 PM
I wonder if there's been a thread on this topic, hope it belongs here.
If not recently (or not at all) done, here is what my bike bodies and I think
1. STI shifters
2. improvement in wheels
3. new frame materials

as this is simply an opinion, no need to justify or explain why this or that....


HillRider
08-19-08, 06:39 PM
1.STI/Ergo brifters and the index shifting that makes them possible.
2. Freehubs
3. Clipless pedals

bikeaday
08-19-08, 06:46 PM
no doubt, Brifter for me


operator
08-19-08, 06:51 PM
Speed

mcoomer
08-19-08, 06:53 PM
For my money it's brifters and the extensive development and use of alloys and synthetic materials.

jsmithepa
08-19-08, 07:00 PM
Index Shifting - no more shimm'ing, precise shifting even if not expert, no fear of loosing a shift on a tough uphill (where is the fun wo explanation?)

top506
08-19-08, 07:03 PM
1.STI/Ergo brifters and the index shifting that makes them possible.



Index yes, brifters no. The rest is just window dressing.
Freehubs are good too, but both index shifting and freehubs predate the 20-year window.
Top

operator
08-19-08, 07:05 PM
Index Shifting - no more shimm'ing, precise shifting even if not expert, no fear of loosing a shift on a tough uphill (where is the fun wo explanation?)

Lose is spelt with one o

vrkelley
08-19-08, 07:09 PM
New frame materials that make bikes lighter

jsmithepa
08-19-08, 07:15 PM
Lose is spelt with one o
Says who SPELLED it wrong!

Two o-o's is funnier than one o. When done on purpose is literary art.

Sixty Fiver
08-19-08, 07:18 PM
The super light stuff is fine if you have deep pockets or a sponsor but most folks aren't looking for a 17 pound road bike or 24 pound mountain bike so the biggest improvements seem to be for recreational and utilitarian cyclists...

Indexed shifters and disc brakes have been around for a long time although indexed systems have only been in the mainstream since the eighties when Shimano was finally able to use the technology when Suntour's patents expired.

I am still a fan of well made friction shifters since they are a far simnpler and less problematic system than most, if not all indexed systems.

Disc brakes are wonderful things that have really come of age and are now appearing on more and more entry level bikes rather than just high end mountain bikes...

The improved internal gear hubs we are seeing now could very well render derailer gears as being all but obsolete...

Kevlar... one of the best thigs for tyres ever.

My perfect bike would have brifters that were friction only, disc brakes, puncture proof tyres, and an internal gear hub with a wide range and off road capability.

:D

triplebutted
08-19-08, 07:22 PM
15-20 years don't seem that long ago. I used to ride with a guy who had a Frejus and it literally looked like a plumber put the thing together with a welding torch. But let's see, 15-20 years ago, I would say the best thing that ever happened....BRIFTERS and CLIPLESS. Frame material come and go but those 2 things defintely made cycling so much better.

Nessism
08-19-08, 07:27 PM
In no particular order...

Indexed shifting
STI shifters
Clipless pedals

Michel Gagnon
08-19-08, 08:04 PM
Freehubs : the axle is much sturdier and they don't tighten by themselves : useful for touring

Better derailleurs : Indexed shifting is nice, but what I find really interesting is how much more precise derailleurs are. In 1972, you were "about" there, in 1981, the rear derailleur was OK but the front was iffy. In 2000, both are precise, even in friction mode.

Hub generators (Schmidt and Shimano)

...

The internet. Some of the nice stuff might have been available 20 years ago, but unless people were connected, it was impossible to hear about things like very low gearing, sturdy racks, good panniers...

joejack951
08-19-08, 08:08 PM
Integrated headsets
Ergo handlebars
wheel reflectors that fit 16 spoke wheels

But seriously...

Attempting to be different, I'll say:

good, cheap MTB suspension forks
Topeak Morph series pumps
Powerlinks for chains

JanMM
08-19-08, 08:41 PM
Freehubs have been popularized and have really taken over in the last 20 years, but they were around before then. My 1979 Schwinn Super LeTour had a freehub.

HillRider
08-19-08, 08:56 PM
Index yes, brifters no. The rest is just window dressing.
Freehubs are good too, but both index shifting and freehubs predate the 20-year window.
Top
If you ride in a flat or gently rolling area, brifters aren't that important. If you live in a hilly area they are a blessing.

Indexing and freehubs do predate the 20 year window but they only got to the mainstream within that time frame. Brifters certainly reached commercial distribution within the 20 year period.

For that matter, clipless pedals fall outside the 20 year window too but they only got into wide distribution more recently.

As long as we're nit-picking dates, Aluminum frames have been around for over 100 years and Ti since the '70's.

unterhausen
08-19-08, 09:20 PM
Cinelli had clipless pedals 30 years ago -- I really wanted some but they were too expensive for my budget as a teenager. Shimano started inflicting indexed shifters on us back in the late '70s IIRC. There were Ti, aluminum and carbon frames back in the early '70s.

pabuck
08-19-08, 10:11 PM
Yay! My old Trek is "modern" - indexed, clipless, aluminum... :P

Side note - when did 53/39 become the standard? Why? More rear gears to choose from?

crock
08-19-08, 10:13 PM
Rohloff hub

notenoughdaylig
08-19-08, 10:33 PM
threadless headsets

jsmithepa
08-19-08, 11:03 PM
threadless headsets
Let u finish installing 200/day and time left for a movie doesn't it.

jsmithepa
08-19-08, 11:10 PM
Cinelli had clipless pedals 30 years ago -- I really wanted some but they were too expensive for my budget as a teenager. Shimano started inflicting indexed shifters on us back in the late '70s IIRC. There were Ti, aluminum and carbon frames back in the early '70s.
If there was, it hadta be experimental. Clipless didn't appear in-mass until mid-80s, aluminums late 80s, CF sometimes in the 90s.

Carusoswi
08-20-08, 05:12 AM
Lose is spelt with one o

. . . lol, and spelled is spelled thusly. You remind me of the printing on a 3" x 5" x 1/2" giant eraser my aunt gave me for my birthday one year. On it was stenciled the following:

"I never make big misteaks!"

LOL

carpediemracing
08-20-08, 06:00 AM
Clipless pedals - over 20 years ago, even the kind that clip out "easily", i.e. Look pedals.
Index shifting - same pre-20 year window
Freehubs - same pre-20 year window

53/39 was Shimano's response to Campy's standard 144mm bolt circle diameter. Shimano had a non-compatible 130 mm BCD and it was hell trying to buy rings for their cranks. Campy users "in the know" used a 41T chainring, but Shimano pointed out a 39T ring would save you two teeth on a large cog, i.e. you could use a 19 vs 21, or 21 vs 23. In that day and age 6 or 7 spd was max, with a 12T min, so not having to sacrifice a mid-cog for an end cog was considered a good thing. I think Bicycling magazine was partly responsible because they had a gear head guy who would calculate the best gears for a bike (based on usage), and the wide spread chainrings were very helpful with getting a nice gear spread with small jumps.

My votes would be:

- Everyday rideable aero wheels (20 years ago an Araya ADX-4 was considered "dangerous" to ride on a windy day, and it's only about 20 mm tall)
- Proper use of exotic materials in bikes - frames, rims, components, forks, etc.
- Use of LED and other light technology to enable long distance night riding

Of course I'm only 1/2 into my first cup of coffee but those are the first things that pop into mind.

cdr

chipcom
08-20-08, 06:04 AM
Teh intrawebs and BF.Net :D

HillRider
08-20-08, 06:16 AM
Freehubs have been popularized and have really taken over in the last 20 years, but they were around before then. My 1979 Schwinn Super LeTour had a freehub.
Was it OEM or had the rear wheel been replaced somehere along the line? Also, if you mean it had a Mailaird Helicomatic, that doesn't qualify. :)

maddmaxx
08-20-08, 06:34 AM
Inexpensive and reasonably light disc brakes.

tommyd49
08-20-08, 02:01 PM
direct pull cantilevers

G piny parnas
08-20-08, 02:57 PM
hands down---- sti's -------as soon as they come up with the internal stuff or perfect the air shift or
something--- shifting the bicycle is the poop... but I took mine off to make a real single speed-- the true bike is the track bike--- the simpler the better... hands down---

DMF
08-20-08, 04:27 PM
1) Combo brake/shifter (STI/brifter)
2) Improved steel alloys and welding technology
3) Synthetic-material footwear that permits 'clipless' pedals
4) Electric shifting (we just don't know it yet).

jsmithepa
08-20-08, 04:35 PM
3) Synthetic-material footwear that permits 'clipless' pedals
Wrong. Very stiff soles existed b4r 4r the toeclip&straps crowd.

Me guess is, clipless finally came to light 'coz of durable materials that can be made at reasonable$.

DMF
08-20-08, 04:48 PM
Sure there were stiff soles. Anyone wear shoes with steel shanks or toes? But I challenge you to find in history the equivalent of the molded sole and lightweight upper of a modern clipless shoe! Lumberjack shoes would support a cleat, but I doubt you'd want to wear one on a bike. (Pace all you wearers of Doc Martens at Critical Mass.)

The cleats and pedals themselves are mechanically obvious. It's the shoe that makes it practical.

JanMM
08-20-08, 08:45 PM
Was it OEM or had the rear wheel been replaced somehere along the line? Also, if you mean it had a Mailaird Helicomatic, that doesn't qualify. :)

Nope, came new with a "..six-cog cassette freewheel.." (Just found a catalog online.) A "Shimano freehub". Definitely had outboard bearings on the drive side.
http://www.geocities.com/sldbconsumer8/1979/79ccpg12b.jpg

the_mac
08-21-08, 12:48 PM
My perfect bike would have brifters that were friction only, disc brakes, puncture proof tyres, and an internal gear hub with a wide range and off road capability.

:D

A couple things...

1) How would friction brifters even work?
2) Most IGH designs need very accurate amounts of pull and would work better indexed.

DallasSoxFan
08-21-08, 01:02 PM
"In 1989, the Food and Drug Administration approved the hormone, called Epogen, which remains in use."

:innocent: