Road Bike Racing - Scott = GTFO.

Sun Valley, ID, August 26, 2008 — SCOTT Bicycles announced today that it will discontinue the sponsorship of the SCOTT-American Beef cycling team for the 2009 season.

“SCOTT has been a partner with Mauro Gianetti’s team since the beginning in 2004. In all the past years the team could celebrate some remarkable victories. We would like to thank the team for the cooperation in the past years and we wish the team and new sponsors all the best for the future.”

-Pascal Ducrot VP Scott Sports SA

So, for those of you who need a sponsor for your team, start writing a letter/email.

It's either you, or Team Columbia that gets them.

team columbia?? what happened to giant?

team columbia?? what happened to giant?

Rabobank did.

and colnago?

and colnago?

Colnago = GTFO.

They are happy with Milram, Tinkoff, Landbouwkrediet and the Skil-Shimano development team. They don't have the market presence necessary to sponsor 4 or 5 teams any more.

didn't know that about giant, but seeing as their european HQ is in lelystad, it makes sense.

didn't know that about giant, but seeing as their european HQ is in lelystad, it makes sense.

Yep (http://www.velonews.com/article/82382/rabobank-team-to-ride-giant-bicycles-for-the-2009-season).

Would it be unprecedented for Giant to do both Rabobank and Team Columbia?

Would it be unprecedented for Giant to do both Rabobank and Team Columbia?

Yes.

For major teams, they've sponsored ONCE, T-Mobile/Highroad/Colombia and now Rabobank.

Something has to give, and it's going to be Columbia.

Yes.

For major teams, they've sponsored ONCE, T-Mobile/Highroad/Colombia and now Rabobank.

Something has to give, and it's going to be Columbia.

you almost sound like you know what you're talking about. almost.

you almost sound like you know what you're talking about. almost.

Explain yourself.

For once, I agree with BananaTugger.

With Giant picking up Colnago and Scott dropping American Beef I think we'll see Columbia on Scott's next year.

Is there an mexican bike company that sounds like it is from the US? Use those bikes.

Is there an mexican bike company that sounds like it is from the US? Use those bikes.

What does that have to do with anything?

American Beef is a Mexican company that sounds like it's from America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas).

What does that have to do with anything?

American Beef is a Mexican company that sounds like it's from America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas).

Yeah, I get it America is North and South America, 99.9% of the people on here know that, I realize your need to feel educated and informed, but it comes across as condesending. If you don't understand how people will associate that with the US let me help you out.

From Canada = Canadian
From Mexico = Mexican
From Austria = Austrian
Etc....
From the USA = ?

I'm going to go with american,but I'm am sure someone will come up with something witty.

Yeah, I get it America is North and South America, 99.9% of the people on here know that, I realize your need to feel educated and informed, but it comes across as condesending. If you don't understand how people will associate that with the US let me help you out.

From Canada = Canadian
From Mexico = Mexican
From Austria = Austrian
Etc....
From the USA = ?

I'm going to go with american,but I'm am sure someone will come up with something witty.

American = all of the above.

Except the Austrian bit.

If I sound condescending, it's because I am.

American = all of the above.

Except the Austrian bit.

If I sound condescending, it's because I am.

So from the USA =?

So from the USA =?

USA = US Americans (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YTjaYaORCKo).

Is there an mexican bike company that sounds like it is from the US? Use those bikes.

doubt Mauro's vision included his guys riding lowriders in the classics

USA = US Americans (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YTjaYaORCKo).

Oh, that term is used all the time is it?

Oh, that term is used all the time is it?

Yes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundbites_featured_on_The_Jim_Rome_Show#Quotes).

Protip: Scroll down a bit.

Yes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundbites_featured_on_The_Jim_Rome_Show#Quotes).

Protip: Scroll down a bit.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=332017&highlight=american

"There are a number of factories that are closing in Southern Ontario because the margins aren't there anymore for American contractors to move their production to Canada."


What does this mean, does american mean from Canada, the US, Mexico. It's so confusing, if only the person who posted this could have been more specific. ;)

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=332017&highlight=american

"There are a number of factories that are closing in Southern Ontario because the margins aren't there anymore for American contractors to move their production to Canada."


What does this mean, does american mean from Canada, the US, Mexico. It's so confusing, if only the person who posted this could have been more specific. ;)

Stalk more.

Stalk more.

it's called search, takes about 1 minute, besides we are both obviously bored if we are arguing semantics.
I'll guess you see my point and agree with me now as I am not allowed to use your own posts against you.

it's called search, takes about 1 minute, besides we are both obviously bored if we are arguing semantics.
I'll guess you see my point and agree with me now as I am not allowed to use your own posts against you.

You're wrong.

Given how Columbia has easily been the most impressive cycling team this year, I find it hard to see why Giant would stop sponsoring them.. But if it happens, I am guessing there will be a bit of a bidding war no?

Given how Columbia has easily been the most impressive cycling team this year, I find it hard to see why Giant would stop sponsoring them.. But if it happens, I am guessing there will be a bit of a bidding war no?

I can see some hawt four way action between Scott, Specialized, Cervelo and Giant to see who gets Saxo Bank and Columbia in the future.

I can see some hawt four way action between Scott, Specialized, Cervelo and Giant to see who gets Saxo Bank and Columbia in the future.

For a second I got carried away there.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/Cervelo_to_create_own_Pro_team_in_2009_article_265864.html

Cervelo may not bid.

Saxo Bank should get some big bucks from someone.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/Cervelo_to_create_own_Pro_team_in_2009_article_265864.html

Cervelo may not bid.

Saxo Bank should get some big bucks from someone.

Cervelo is going to end up somewhere.

I think we may see a bunch of Gerolsteiner and Barloworld dudes migrating to a Cervelo supplied team funded by another insurance company or something.

Perhaps even a title sponsorship like Cervelo-Lifeforce (http://www.cervelo-lifeforce.com/eng_ENG.html).

i like it when a guy from new york tries to tell a guy from canada that they are both americans. hmmmm.

i appreciate the non u.s.-centric viewpoint, but the fact is that america is synonymous with the u.s. today. sorry. i suppose you think that the company chose american beef as their name because they assumed that the world knew that america meant the entire continents of north and south america. it wasn't attempting to associate itself with u.s. beef at all. nope, not at all.

i like it when a guy from new york tries to tell a guy from canada that they are both americans. hmmmm.

i appreciate the non u.s.-centric viewpoint, but the fact is that america is synonymous with the u.s. today. sorry. i suppose you think that the company chose american beef as their name because they assumed that the world knew that america meant the entire continents of north and south america. it wasn't attempting to associate itself with u.s. beef at all. nope, not at all.

I'm Canadian as well.

i had heard a specialized saxo bank rumor over on slowtwitch. would make sense for specialized. given the issues that boonen and others have had with the specialized's, it doesn't really make sense for saxo bank

I'm Canadian as well.

then it's all good. actually, i really mean that. i posted my post about the america defined debate too late, and the thread has miraculously gotten back on topic. therefore, i will defer any opinion of mine on that subject, and hope that we can continue on the frame debate. sound good?

then it's all good. actually, i really mean that. i posted my post about the america defined debate too late, and the thread has miraculously gotten back on topic. therefore, i will defer any opinion of mine on that subject, and hope that we can continue on the frame debate. sound good?

No.

Once you get after a troll, he'll chase you as long as it takes to catch you an beat you down with a Grammar/Wit/Anger Mallet.

Start running.

I'm Canadian as well.

I have my doubts.

What do you call a sofa?

Winner of the '72 summit series?

How far did Terry Fox get?

I have my doubts.

What do you call a sofa?

Bed.

I have my doubts.

What do you call a sofa?

Winner of the '72 summit series?

How far did Terry Fox get?


Bed.

Canadian, NOT!

Cut it out. We're still trying to make it up to the world for what we did with Celine Dion and Brian Adams. You're only making it worse!

Canadian, NOT!

Cut it out. We're still trying to make it up to the world for what we did with Celine Dion and Brian Adams. You're only making it worse!

We gave them Rush, Red Rider, Sarah McLachlan, the radio, zippers and the freaking Canadarm.

Beer. Also beer.

Also: Peter North. These people love their porn.

We gave them Rush, Red Rider, Sarah McLachlan, the radio, zippers and the freaking Canadarm.

Beer. Also beer.

Actually I think the one for the ISS is way cooler. It is two arms that walk over themselves and will be used to build the station and do most of the outside work.

Google it. It's pretty cool.



Also: Peter North. These people love their porn.

Did not know that.


BTW, you're still not a Canadian.

Oh yeah, eh.

Actually I think the one for the ISS is way cooler. It is two arms that walk over themselves and will be used to build the station and do most of the outside work.

Google it. It's pretty cool.




Did not know that.


BTW, you're still not a Canadian.

Oh yeah, eh.

My Indian Status Card would disagree.

and the trailer park boys!

Didn't Litespeed say they wanted an Archon in the TdF in '09?

Didn't Litespeed say they wanted an Archon in the TdF in '09?

They were assuming that someone would want Litespeed.

They were assuming that someone would want Litespeed.
Well, with two "American" teams possibly looking for a free bike, I think Litespeed would have already sent out some e-mails.

Well, with two "American" teams possibly looking for a free bike, I think Litespeed would have already sent out some e-mails.

Bikes are only a small part of the sponsorship equation.

Money is almost the only part if you were to weigh the parts on importance to the team owner and managers.

Scott, Specialized, Cervelo and Giant have a crapload of cash that is allocated to fund their premier teams. Litespeed may have some cash in the jar as well, but probably no where near what the others have to offer.

Bikes are only a small part of the sponsorship equation.

Money is almost the only part if you were to weigh the parts on importance to the team owner and managers.

Scott, Specialized, Cervelo and Giant have a crapload of cash that is allocated to fund their premier teams. Litespeed may have some cash in the jar as well, but probably no where near what the others have to offer.

+1

So...ummm... do you think Mike of BikesDirect infamy is thinking about sponsoring a team now? ;)

Given how Columbia has easily been the most impressive cycling team this year, I find it hard to see why Giant would stop sponsoring them.. But if it happens, I am guessing there will be a bit of a bidding war no?

just because cannonball won a bunch of sprints, does not mean that high horse/columbia is the 'most impressive.'


i had heard a specialized saxo bank rumor over on slowtwitch. would make sense for specialized. given the issues that boonen and others have had with the specialized's, it doesn't really make sense for saxo bank

incorrect.


Well, with two "American" teams possibly looking for a free bike, I think Litespeed would have already sent out some e-mails.

which two, and before you type columbia, stop.

just because they have a US license, does not make them an american team.

Cervelo is going to end up somewhere.
Perhaps even a title sponsorship like Cervelo-Lifeforce (http://www.cervelo-lifeforce.com/eng_ENG.html).

They're calling it the "Test Team," and by the sounds of how they're describing it, products/brands first, this team will be more concerned about testing their products rather than winning races.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=7358459