Living Car Free - Great idea or scary as hell?

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donrhummy
08-29-08, 10:45 AM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/science_news/4279923.html

In a surprise development that could have implications for powering electronics, cars and even the military, researchers at MIT have created the world's first batteries constructed at the nano scale by microscopic viruses.

A much-buzzed-about paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences earlier this month details the team's success in creating two of the three parts of a working battery—the positively charged anode and the electrolyte. But team leader Angela Belcher told PM Wednesday that the team has been seriously working on cathode technology for the past year, creating several complete prototypes.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/virus-battery-0820.html


"To our knowledge, this is the first instance in which microcontact printing has been used to fabricate and position microbattery electrodes and the first use of virus-based assembly in such a process," wrote MIT professors Paula T. Hammond, Angela M. Belcher, Yet-Ming Chiang and colleagues.

Further, the technique itself "does not involve any expensive equipment, and is done at room temperature," said Belcher, the Germeshausen Professor of Materials Science and Engineering and Biological Engineering.


bizzz111
08-29-08, 01:48 PM
much like the sub $20k electric car, giant leaps in battery technology have been announced for years, yet always fail to deliver. In reality, what we get are minimal increases in longevity and minimal decreases in size. Of course the devices that are powered by the batteries always seem to use up any advances and we end up where we have always been (e.g. laptop battery life).

if they make it, then I'll be all over it. Until then, I'll just forget about it, just like I forgot about the cheap electric car promised to me back in 1979.

Artkansas
08-29-08, 09:36 PM
I've heard people talking about making fuel from algae. That's a scary one. Yes, they may be able to farm it properly, but how great is the temptation to just go out and harvest it from the ocean. Having seen what we are doing to the fish and knowing that algae is responsible for so much of our oxygen, I see major opportunity to goof things up through over-harvesting.


JusticeZero
08-31-08, 01:57 AM
Not scary at all.
Viruses and other microbes that make us sick are pretty specialized things designed with all sorts of stuff to defeat our usual defenses.
Let's take a moment to mourn all those people who have been killed by Dutch Elm Disease... can you think of any? Neither can I. Viruses that are adapted to make trees sick have no chance and no effect in the human body. Viruses they use for tinkering with things? Even more harmless. The whole idea of freakish alien microbes causing huge plagues is pretty silly; the planet gets hit with a fair number of microbes from various places in space from one minute to the next. If something would have happened, it would have happened countless times already, probably within the past few days.

CommuterRun
08-31-08, 04:30 AM
Saw the article in PM magazine. Not at all scary for reasons covered by JZ. There are a whole heck of a lot of various viruses on us, and in us, all the time. They are even part of our DNA.

It would be cool if they can make this work on a very large scale, but I'm not holding my breath.

Cyclaholic
08-31-08, 05:56 AM
You know what would be really cool? a virus that fixes punctures and another one that inflates tires. I'd happily 'infect' my bike with those. :thumb:

wahoonc
08-31-08, 07:16 AM
Every time someone freaks out about viruses, I ask them about mold. It can kill you if it gets into the respiratory tract, but you eat it all the time...ie; Blue Cheese. ;) and it is used to create medicines like Penicillin.

Aaron:)