Road Bike Racing - Fat, Slow, and in need of 3 seconds. Green Mountain Stage Race.

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ElJamoquio
08-29-08, 02:06 PM
The prologue was, by far, the best chance of me seeing yellow, as I'm a hair overweight.

Results? I'm in third place. The mega-lightweight climber, who hasn't seen the stages suited for him (tomorrow and Sunday) is in first, three seconds ahead.

F.
F.
F.
F.
F.


So now I need to go for some time bonuses; I sincerely doubt I'll be able to drop the guy in the lead. In fact, he'll probably be able to drop me pretty handily.

F.

Tomorrow is a circuit, maybe a 600 ft hill in the middle. There's a sprint (I'm terrible at sprinting) bonus worth 8 seconds, after an extended downhill. There's a final bonus worth 15 seconds for the win.

Any advice, other than the obvious?


ericcox
08-29-08, 02:17 PM
Watch American Flyers and follow David's strategy. If I understand the movie correctly, a training montage involving a cowboy hat, wheelies, a van and Rae Dawn Chong should help as well.

Hope this advice helps; best of luck.

*new*guy
08-29-08, 02:30 PM
^^brilliant.


ElJamoquio
08-29-08, 02:36 PM
a van and Rae Dawn Chong

Wait, do I even need the stage race any more?

wanders
08-29-08, 02:41 PM
Wait, do I even need the stage race any more?

depends on which version you get.

http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/0/67220-large.jpg

Psimet2001
08-29-08, 02:45 PM
Nice. RDC on a Friday afternoon....

botto
08-29-08, 03:23 PM
:beer:

mollusk
08-29-08, 03:26 PM
bonus worth 8 seconds, after an extended downhill.

This is where you can put excess lbs to good use.

Racer Ex
08-29-08, 03:34 PM
What class?

umd
08-29-08, 03:45 PM
Tomorrow is a circuit, maybe a 600 ft hill in the middle. There's a sprint (I'm terrible at sprinting) bonus worth 8 seconds, after an extended downhill. There's a final bonus worth 15 seconds for the win.

That seems like a pretty big hill in a circuit race. How long is the circuit and how many laps of it do you do?

waterrockets
08-29-08, 03:59 PM
I'd make that climber play his cards, but it will possibly turn into an all-or-nothing for you. Attack...

Nice work to this point though.

YMCA
08-29-08, 04:01 PM
First, decide if you are going for:
-1st on GC
-a top GC spot
-or a stage win

Once you have your goal, then figure the best tactics.

ElJamoquio
08-29-08, 05:35 PM
What class?

<cough>Cat 4.</cough>


That seems like a pretty big hill in a circuit race. How long is the circuit and how many laps of it do you do?

4's only do two circuits, I think the grand total is 64 miles. I'd call that a RR, but the GMSR calls it a circuit.




I'd make that climber play his cards, but it will possibly turn into an all-or-nothing for you. Attack...

Indeed. I'm considering something along these lines. There's four of us in the top 15 seconds or so, and then there's a 15 second gap or so. So I think it's guaranteed that one of the four of us is in yellow tomorrow night.



First, decide if you are going for:
-1st on GC
-a top GC spot
-or a stage win

Once you have your goal, then figure the best tactics.

Stage wins are definitely not the priority, at least not the non-prologue stages... honestly I'd be happy just being in yellow for one day. The way this race is set up, though, I'd need to have one of my best races ever to take away the jersey tomorrow.

Sunday is a pure climber's race.

Monday is a crit, allegedly a technical one. If I'm going for the GC win I would want to have the lead by that point; my bet is, sans crashes, the leader going into the crit will win the GC.


Hmmm....

Snuffleupagus
08-29-08, 05:38 PM
<cough>Cat 4.</cough>


sans crashes, the leader going into the crit will win the GC.


Hmmm....

;)








Just giving you s**t...

Red Rider
08-29-08, 10:03 PM
Oh, sorry, I read "Fat, Slow, and in need of 3 seconds..." and thought Pcad was back from Greece.

NomadVW
08-30-08, 05:56 PM
I thought Penguin was racing this event? Where'd he go?!

markyore
09-01-08, 03:48 PM
How did you like the ascent of the appalachian gap on stage 2? :thumb:

wanders
09-01-08, 04:58 PM
Well? We are waiting...

markyore
09-01-08, 06:08 PM
http://www.gmsr.info/results.php

NomadVW
09-01-08, 06:44 PM
That gets us through stage 2 at the moment. We're not that patient.

Psimet2001
09-01-08, 07:15 PM
Well...8th overall through stage 2. (That gets a :thumb: in my book)

SwimBike
09-01-08, 09:00 PM
were you in the 4a or 4b field?

markyore
09-01-08, 09:15 PM
That gets us through stage 2 at the moment. We're not that patient.

I think most of the results after stage 2 will stand as the final stage (3) is a crit...unless there is a crash :cry:

I rode the citizens race (stage 3) which ended in a tough climb up the Appalachian Gap which is a consistent 15% in places with the last 500m at 18%.

I remember coming up to the last couple of switchbacks thinking what are all those people doing up there on that mountain top!.....then thinking holy sh*t
:twitchy:

So 8th for a non climber is pretty sweet, congrats!

ZeCanon
09-02-08, 09:55 AM
My teammate won the opening TT in the 3's, then had a flat on day 2 and the whole field just rode away from him...
Classy. :mad:

He won the crit anyway. Still, winning the overall would have been good.

kudude
09-02-08, 10:31 AM
My teammate won the opening TT in the 3's, then had a flat on day 2 and the whole field just rode away from him...
Classy. :mad:

He won the crit anyway. Still, winning the overall would have been good.

Is it really policy for the group to sit around and wait for a guy with a flat? My impression is that that's racing. If he'd had teammates they could have waited and pulled him up.

The_Convert
09-02-08, 10:59 AM
Is it really policy for the group to sit around and wait for a guy with a flat? My impression is that that's racing. If he'd had teammates they could have waited and pulled him up.

No

bdcheung
09-02-08, 11:14 AM
Nope. Would have been good to have a teammate on hand to grab a wheel from, though.

ZeCanon
09-03-08, 08:00 AM
Personally I would not ride away from the guy in the leaders jersey near the very start of a long stage.

Would have been nice to have a teammate indeed, but I'm a couple thousand miles away and in the wrong category.

bdcheung
09-03-08, 08:12 AM
Personally I would not ride away from the guy in the leaders jersey near the very start of a long stage.

Did they intentionally up the pace to drop him? If not, then I'd say their actions were fair. You can't expect the entire field to stop (or slow to a crawl) just because the leader got a flat and has no teammates to help him.

What, exactly, was the field's reaction (if any)?

ZeCanon
09-03-08, 08:37 AM
I wasn't there, but he said a couple guys saw him pull over and hit the front. He's a very strong TTer (won the prologue handily and the crit with a very strong solo move) so I can't imagine that he would not get back on if the pack just continued on cruise control.

I'm just glad he won the 2 stages he did so I'll have a teammate in the 2's next season :)

ElJamoquio
09-03-08, 10:29 AM
Quick update:

Prologue: 3rd overall
Stage 1: I was a marked man; trying to go OTF (with no teammates blocking) got me immediately chased down. 'Guy swerved into me' towards the end of the race. Don't know why. Went down. Taco'd the wheel and busted up the rear derailler. SRAM neutral support got me back together in a reasonable configuration, finished a minute or two behind the pack, but got 'credit' for finishing with the pack.
Stage 2: About 60 miles into the 78 mile race, my buggered-up rear derailler failed me. No support, I got off and mucked with it for a minute. Chased back on (perhaps too hard?)... I was beat for the final hill, and those skinny young guys really put it to me. Eight overall.
Stage 3: Just hung out at the back. Finished. Collected my $75 for a total of $95 for the weekend.