Group Buy - Neo Exile carbon frameset/bike groupbuy

Apparently still no pricing on the new DA 7900?
I am subscribed to this thread and eagerly await the order form.

I've found the supplier. but still talking on the price..

I see that you are trying to build a brand, perhaps, with the Neo and Exile....

But - and I may speak for others - what are the possibilities of playing down the logo some?

Could the black bike have a black logo, and the white have a white or grey logo? Something that still lets you get the name out - but keeps it modest for those that aren't into the stark logo placement....

yeah the frame might look a bit dull alone but i think the complete bike looks quite ok.
i'll keep it this way for this and the following year. if you have a better idea i would appreciate if you could share it with me and i might use it on the 2010 Neo Exile..

Have you seen Specialized, Cannondale, et al lately? This in comparison is very tastefully done.

thanks..

thanks..

Heh, I didn't mean to make that sound like I was damning with faint praise, I think on any absolute standard it looks good. I am hoping I am can afford to sign on before the close date.

I think the frames look pretty good....I think I'm down!

When is the approximate deadline for this group buy?

Heh, I didn't mean to make that sound like I was damning with faint praise, I think on any absolute standard it looks good. I am hoping I am can afford to sign on before the close date.

right that's exactly what i thought you meant to say..
so..thanks again.

When is the approximate deadline for this group buy?

early-mid oct.

Well, I'm in for at least the frameset/group. This looks pretty awesome. I love the look of naked carbon.

I'd like to see some alloy handlebars, something basic; but I guess that's something so common that I could get on my own for a good price with no problem.

Well, I'm in for at least the frameset/group. This looks pretty awesome. I love the look of naked carbon.

I'd like to see some alloy handlebars, something basic; but I guess that's something so common that I could get on my own for a good price with no problem.

+1 on the alloy handlebars. Patrick, how about Newtons?

150 for a carbon bar/stem combo is too much? You'd be looking at that minimum for a richey cockpit.

150 for a carbon bar/stem combo is too much? You'd be looking at that minimum for a richey cockpit.

not sure who that's directed at, but in my case, i just prefer alloy for stem/bars. not about the price.

EDIT:
Carbon cockpit = 343g (110mm stem)
Alloy Deda cockpit = 316g (120mm stem. Stem is lighter than R900, bars are 19g heavier than Patrick's)

not sure who that's directed at, but in my case, i just prefer alloy for stem/bars. not about the price.

EDIT:
Alloy Deda cockpit = 316g (120mm stem. Stem is lighter than R900, bars are 19g heavier than Patrick's)

FWIW it seems Deda underestimate their weights a lot, sometime by even 15-35% :eek: according to weight weenies!

FWIW it seems Deda underestimate their weights a lot, sometime by even 15-35% :eek: according to weight weenies!

They don't have the Oval R900 stem, but they list the R700 off by over 18% as well. Both that entry and the ones for the Newton bars are a few years old though.

safe to say, ymmv ;)

i'm not as worried about weight; with a sub 900g frame, you've got a bit of elbow room. I've heard good things about carbon bars from everyone who's made the switch. carbon stems, not so much

+1 on the alloy handlebars. Patrick, how about Newtons?

yeah I can get Newtons but the only supplier here in China is known to be slow in everything, even in responding phone calls.
how about FSA?

not sure who that's directed at, but in my case, i just prefer alloy for stem/bars. not about the price.

EDIT:
Carbon cockpit = 343g (110mm stem)
Alloy Deda cockpit = 316g (120mm stem. Stem is lighter than R900, bars are 19g heavier than Patrick's)

right the R900 carbon stem is a bit heavy but with 900g frame I dont think weight is an issue. IMO the look matters more.
seriously the stem looks gorgeous with the carbon headset cone and carbon plug top cap..

i'm not as worried about weight; with a sub 900g frame, you've got a bit of elbow room. I've heard good things about carbon bars from everyone who's made the switch. carbon stems, not so much

most full carbon stems are quite heavy. FSA K-Force, Deda Forza both weigh 170+g
R900 is carbon wrapped aluminum.

FSA Energy T - Super cheap and a great style and bend - I've been using them for years now.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2u5clg6.jpg

so...order forms? Take as long as you want; my bank account's still recovering from that quarq thingermabob

in for a 2009 SRAM rival groupo.

Chad

^^ I think a lot of people are into the groupset, or wheelset only..

In for two frames and one or two groups, plus maybe some other stuff. I assume (hope) everything comes disassembled or can be ordered as such.

In for two frames and one or two groups, plus maybe some other stuff. I assume (hope) everything comes disassembled or can be ordered as such.

all the stuff will defaultly be NOT assembled.
if you want your bike assembled, I, Patrick, will personally assemble it for you.
PS my Park Tool Big Blue Book just arrived yesterday and I'm going pro (mechanic-wise)!

online order sheet will be done within 5 days.

Will it be possible to include shipping weights to help us calculate an accurate shipping cost?

Patrick,

Any update on 7900?

what size frame is the black bike in the gallery on page 1?

Patrick, it looks like the geometry is a little more "relaxed" compared to many bike frames. I personally think that's a good thing. How would you characterize it?

what size frame is the black bike in the gallery on page 1?

Patrick, it looks like the geometry is a little more "relaxed" compared to many bike frames. I personally think that's a good thing. How would you characterize it?

the black frame is size 57cm.
Neo Exile's geometry is for racing not comfort rides...btw it is exactly the same as the carbon frames of a Spanish brand, you'll see if you do a little research on that.

Patrick,

Any update on 7900?

nope not yet...sorry

Will it be possible to include shipping weights to help us calculate an accurate shipping cost?

technically it's too difficult to be done.
coz different boxes will be used for different stuff. i dont have enough data at the moment..

Thanks for the response and putting all of this together!

Will there be any option to buy a pair of campy hubs too? I assume the group doesn't include the hubs. I'll be building my own wheels but I already have my rims.

Can I buy a group and wheelset without buying a frame?

Can I buy a group and wheelset without buying a frame?

yes although this is not encouraged...

the black frame is size 57cm.
Neo Exile's geometry is for racing not comfort rides...btw it is exactly the same as the carbon frames of a Spanish brand, you'll see if you do a little research on that.

Which Spanish brand? Orbea?

Any thought of doing a cross bike?

Any thought of doing a cross bike?

not this time

Will there be any option to buy a pair of campy hubs too? I assume the group doesn't include the hubs. I'll be building my own wheels but I already have my rims.

sorry hubs are not included.

Neo Cycles ordering webpage is now ONLINE!
you can place your order now!
CLICK HERE (http://www.neo-cycles.com/en/product/configure.php?id=4)

I have received the quotation for Dura Ace 7900 groupset but the price is insane..
I was told it will go down pretty soon. So I'm not going to put the price online at the moment.

Uh oh, time to spend money already?!

Zip Customs are $64,000? :D

Also, will you still be adding the Centaur groups?

Uh oh, time to spend money already?!

Zip Customs are $64,000? :D

Also, will you still be adding the Centaur groups?

damn that should be the price in NTD(the taiwan dollars)
Centaur price will be added in two days.

Uh oh, time to spend money already?!

Zip Customs are $64,000? :D

Also, will you still be adding the Centaur groups?

Zipp price fixed.
thanks for reminding
let me know if there is any more flaws and bugs

Patrick,

Crankset length only available in 172.5? Thanks.

Patrick,

Crankset length only available in 172.5? Thanks.

Ditto to this...

also when we order whats the process of us receiving our order?

Chad

cassette options?

Patrick,

Crankset length only available in 172.5? Thanks.

Sram cranks available in 170,172.5,175,177.5..
but Campy cranks only 172.5 for now.

also when we order whats the process of us receiving our order?

Chad

select what you want, fill in the correct info and submit your order. i will contact you via email.
50% of the total price shall be paid up front as deposit, the deadline for deposit is 31th Oct. you can place your order any time before that.

cassette options?

will be added today.

For crying out loud, where is the actual order link? I'd be in for SRAM Force groupo but only with 165 or 167.5mm and 50/34 or 50/36 cranks.