Group Buy - Neo Exile carbon frameset/bike groupbuy

For crying out loud, where is the actual order link? I'd be in for SRAM Force groupo but only with 165 or 167.5mm and 50/34 or 50/36 cranks.

select the components and spec then check out and fill in your info.
165 and 167.5 crank lengths added.

no it doesn't.
but i recommend the 400g version fork for a heavy rider.

Is there still an option for the "heavier" fork? I don't see it on the order sheet.

select the components and spec then check out and fill in your info.
165 and 167.5 crank lengths added.
no, seriously. WHERE?

no, seriously. WHERE?

Here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.php?p=7525267&postcount=139).

Here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.php?p=7525267&postcount=139).

Thanks! I must have gone thru this thread and another 4-5 times looking for it.

Patrick, you might want to update the first post with the order link...

Any chance we can order colored tires?

select what you want, fill in the correct info and submit your order. i will contact you via email.
50% of the total price shall be paid up front as deposit, the deadline for deposit is 31th Oct. you can place your order any time before that.

When is the other 50% due? Can we pay for it all up front?

Patrick, can you verify whether SRAM Force or Red crankset is available in 165 or 167.5mm length AND a compact 50/34-36? I know you can get one or the either but I'm not sure the short lengths come in compact.

Thanks! I must have gone thru this thread and another 4-5 times looking for it.

lol sorry..

Patrick, you might want to update the first post with the order link...

you're right..
the link is now in the first post and my signature also.

When is the other 50% due? Can we pay for it all up front?

around mid Nov. to early Dec.
let's wait and see how many frames we have to make

you're welcome to pay it all up front..

Any chance we can order colored tires?

there're minimum order quantity for tires in each color.
which color do you want? let's see if others want it too.
thanks

Is there still an option for the "heavier" fork? I don't see it on the order sheet.

it can't be done in the stupid system...
i will ask for your weight (95kg+ or 95kg-) after you place the order...

Patrick, can you verify whether SRAM Force or Red crankset is available in 165 or 167.5mm length AND a compact 50/34-36? I know you can get one or the either but I'm not sure the short lengths come in compact.

well this is kinda complicated...
so I'm listing all the length and chainring data here:
Red
165,167.5,170,172.5,175,177.5
53/39,50/34,52/36
Force
170,172.5,175,177.5
53/39,50/34,50/36
Rival
165,170,172.5,175,177.5,180
53/39,50/34,50/36

Just a few questions Patrick.

-Is it possible to order individual components from a groupset? eg shifters by themselves?
-Is postage included in the price? Is postage the same price to Australia as to the US?
-If we are not ordering a frameset is there still the 2-2.5 month wait time after the finalisation of the order?
-Are the handlebar measurements you listed on the order page outside-outside? (your 1st post lists C-C of 40-44cm)
-Any word on aluminium handlebars? The 3T Pro line would be great.

Thanks very much

Just a few questions Patrick.

-Is it possible to order individual components from a groupset? eg shifters by themselves?
-Is postage included in the price? Is postage the same price to Australia as to the US?
-If we are not ordering a frameset is there still the 2-2.5 month wait time after the finalisation of the order?
-Are the handlebar measurements you listed on the order page outside-outside? (your 1st post lists C-C of 40-44cm)
-Any word on aluminium handlebars?

Thanks very much

just email me if you want individual components.
shipping cost to Australia is in the price list post.
no. definitely no.
c-c.
still trying to find a good deal, by good i mean better than the 3T carbon bars I'm offering currently and trust me it's hard.

I just put in my order.
Is the shipping going to work on the weights listed on the page? On my budget the cost of shipping can be critical.

Thanks for being so responsive.

I just put in my order.
Is the shipping going to work on the weights listed on the page? On my budget the cost of shipping can be critical.

Thanks for being so responsive.

no..the weight listed on the page is your bike/components' gross weight, which doesn't include boxes and foam/bubble sheets etc...

Gotcha.

If any additions or adjustments are made to our orders, should we wait for your email and go about it via that route? (I messed up and forgot to include a stem in the form)

Gotcha.

If any additions or adjustments are made to our orders, should we wait for your email and go about it via that route? (I messed up and forgot to include a stem in the form)

ya if you want to change the order a bit just mail me at info@neo-cycles.com, I can simply change the order manually and send back to you for confirmation.

just email me if you want individual components.
shipping cost to Australia is in the price list post.
no. definitely no.
c-c.
still trying to find a good deal, by good i mean better than the 3T carbon bars I'm offering currently and trust me it's hard.

Sorry must have overlooked the shipping costs in your original post.

Will there be an option to order 40cm C-C? On the order page at the moment it only has 42, 44 and 46cm. Also just to confirm they are C-C measurements because on the 3T page they are only listed as coming in 40, 42, 44 cm (center-center).

The 3T price is definitely very good, but I'd prefer the security of aluminium.

Sorry must have overlooked the shipping costs in your original post.

Will there be an option to order 40cm C-C? On the order page at the moment it only has 42, 44 and 46cm. Also just to confirm they are C-C measurements because on the 3T page they are only listed as coming in 40, 42, 44 cm (center-center).

The 3T price is definitely very good, but I'd prefer the security of aluminium.

the options are 40,42,44cm c-c.
I will offer FSA Wing Pro Compact and Deda Newton for now.
FSA Wing Pro $60
Deda Newton (Shallow for option) $95

FYI carbon dropbars are a lot safer than you imagin.

Thanks Patrick, email sent.

there're minimum order quantity for tires in each color.
which color do you want? let's see if others want it too.
thanks

Anybody else interested in red tires?

Good choice with the FSA Wing Pro Compact. I think that'll be a nice bar for the Exile.

Good choice with the FSA Wing Pro Compact. I think that'll be a nice bar for the Exile.

thanks.
I choose it because I've personally used one for a long time and been very satisfied with its shape and stiffness.

Hey Patrick,

When is the cutoff for ordering and what is the anticipated ship date?
Thanks,
-Joe

forgive me if this has already been asked, i didn't read through many responses. is this frameset available in plain, unbranded carbon?

forgive me if this has already been asked, i didn't read through many responses. is this frameset available in plain, unbranded carbon?

Nope

People who have purchased bikes overseas and shipped to the USA, did you have to pay duty Tax or any other Tax for that matter? If so, how much? Is there a percentage table according to the declared/insured value of the item?
Who collects that Tax payment? the shipping company? Or, do i get a bill from a Tax government agency later?
Last but not least, is this not the case and i am getting concerned without a reason?

If this can't be discussed publicly, i'd appreciate any PM with info of your experience.

Thanks

Hey Patrick,

When is the cutoff for ordering and what is the anticipated ship date?
Thanks,
-Joe

ordering and deposit deadline: late Oct. - early Nov.
delivering time: late Nov. - mid Dec.

I'm leaving home for a week from Oct 3rd till 8th.
probably wont be able to reply to your questions daily. please email me at info@neo-cycles.com.

Can someone tell me how to figure out what size I need?

Can someone tell me how to figure out what size I need?

There's a geometry chart in one of the first few posts.

There's a geometry chart in one of the first few posts.

:o I'm a newbie at sizing. Should I just measure my current bike and go for whatever's closest?

:o I'm a newbie at sizing. Should I just measure my current bike and go for whatever's closest?

Generally yes, however geometries between different frames will differ.

You can use this park tool diagram to help measure your current setup -
http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=130

Then see what Neo size will allow you to get the same setup.

But, if you've never had a professional fit done before, you might want to do that first..

Generally yes, however geometries between different frames will differ.

You can use this park tool diagram to help measure your current setup -
http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=130

Then see what Neo size will allow you to get the same setup.

But, if you've never had a professional fit done before, you might want to do that first..

thanks..very informative..

I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet, but would import taxes/duties come into play shipping these bikes to the US? If so, what rate? Brokerage fees?

Any word on Centaur (10spd) pricing? I'm not ready to make the jump to 11spd.

Why is the head tube so tall? That's like comfort bike geometry.

Why is the head tube so tall? That's like comfort bike geometry.

Who needs aero? We've got you to close gaps for us! When is the pay deadline? I'm still waiting for my big ass check to come.

Why is the head tube so tall? That's like comfort bike geometry.

Seems fine in my size. Besides, just about every bike I see has a stack of spacers under the stem anyway.

I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet, but would import taxes/duties come into play shipping these bikes to the US? If so, what rate? Brokerage fees?

no tax for US buyers according to my previous sales.

Why is the head tube so tall? That's like comfort bike geometry.

you sure the head tube is tall in the geometry chart instead of looking tall in the picture?
coz this is a serious racing frame...

Who needs aero? We've got you to close gaps for us! When is the pay deadline? I'm still waiting for my big ass check to come.

early Nov..

Patrick, will you still be adding the Centaur groups to the order form?

Thanks

Who needs aero? We've got you to close gaps for us! When is the pay deadline? I'm still waiting for my big ass check to come.
I'll still close gaps for you, but I need race geometry. This is something else. No offense, but anyone looking for a race frame might be a little disappointed with that head tube. You'd need bars with a pretty massive drop...

you sure the head tube is tall in the geometry chart instead of looking tall in the picture?
coz this is a serious racing frame...

The head tube for the 54 is 4.5cm taller than what I have on my 54, which is a race-specific frame.

The head tube for the 54 is 4.5cm taller than what I have on my 54, which is a race-specific frame.

In a 54, the Neo headtube is 1mm taller than my Six13 (2008). It's 1.5cm taller than a Cervelo S3, and the 2009 cannondale supersix. Easily reconciled with a down-angle stem.

Sure there are frames with shorter headtubes, but that doesn't mean this one isn't race geometry.

I'll still close gaps for you, but I need race geometry. This is something else. No offense, but anyone looking for a race frame might be a little disappointed with that head tube. You'd need bars with a pretty massive drop...

If you're talking about your Blue most every one that I've seen had at least an inch of spacers on it though. I can't recall what yours was though. One of the reasons I bought the Flyte over Blue was the crazy shortness of the head tube. It's like they're made to be TT bikes. Most high end carbon track bikes are that way and I hate it.