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OK so finally here comes the groupbuy thread.

1. General info.
The groupbuy is operated all by me, Patrick. I'm located in China, which means I can't always reply to your inquiries in time due to time gap. The entire process (from taking orders to manufacturing and delivering) will take 2-2.5 months.

2. The items
a. Neo Exile frameset
Frame:
- monocoque T800 full carbon frame
- 5 sizes (see geometry chart)
- finish available in uni-directional weave matte black and glossy pearl white
- 930g at size 57cm in matte black (sub 900g at smaller sizes, pearl white +50-70g)
- English BB threading
- 41.8mm Campy headset
- 31.6mm seatpost
- 34.9mm clamp front der.
- alloy rear dropouts w/ replacable rear der. hanger
Fork:
- monocoque T800 full carbon fork (carbon crown, alloy dropouts)
- finish available in uni-directional weave matte black and glossy pearl white
- 350g (also available in a 400g version for heavier riders)
Headset:
- alloy bearings
- 8.5mm 3K weave carbon cone
- alloy compressor plug w/ 3K weave carbon topcap.
- 95g
Seatpost:
- monocoque T700 carbon
- high adjustability
- alloy clamp w/ steel bolt
- 3K weave matte black
- 180g at 350mm*31.6mm
Seatclamp
- HOPE anodized red w/o QR
- 20g
Cable guide and adjuster barrels
- 12g

Frameset total weight: 1587g (size 57cm matte black)

b. Barset
Stem
- Oval R900
- Carbon wrapped alloy w/ steel bolts
- 153g at 110mm
Handlebar
- monocoque T800 full carbon
- bend available in classic and ergo (geometry chart will be posted soon)
- 3 sizes 40-42-44cm C-C
- 190g
****I think many are interested in alloy bars, but can you guys agree on a single model, which makes it easier for me to get them at lower price. my suggestion will be Deda Newton or Oval R700

c. Groupset
Sram
- Rival
- Force
- Red
Campagnolo
- Super Record
- Record
- Chorus
Shimano
- D/A 7900(probably!)

d. Wheelset
Easton
- EA90 SLX
- EA90 Aero
- EC90 SLX
- EC90 Aero
Zipp custom
- Zipp 202/303/404 rim
- Tune Mig70 + Mag180
- Sapim/DT spokes
Fulcrum
- Racing One
- Racing Zero
Campagnolo
- Eurus
- Shamal

e. Saddle
****It's the most personal part on a bike so I dont think it's a good idea to put it on a groupbuy list. but I'll offer Fizik Arione's if you people like

f. Pedals
****Still talking with TIME supplier, details will soon be posted.

g. Tires and Tubes
- Michelin Pro 3 Race
- Michelin Aircomp

h. Bottlecage
- monocoque T700 full carbon
- 3K weave glossy clear coating
- 20g

Neo - Exile geometry chart:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/Neo-ExileGeometry.jpg

Gallery:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0822.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0823.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0021.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0022.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0024.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0035.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0044.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0038.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0030.jpg

more pictures here, max 10 pics allowed in one post...
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0001.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0005.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0009.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/Neo%20-%20Exile/DSC_0013.jpg

3. Pricing
a. Frameset: $750
(frame/fork/headset/seatpost/seatclamp/cable guide/adjuster barrels)
b. Barset: $150
(stem+handlebar)
c. Groupset:
Sram Rival: $520
Sram Force: $820
Sram Red: $1240
Campagnolo Super Record: $2600
Campagnolo Record: $2200
Campagnolo Chorus: $1600
Campagnolo Centaur Alu: $720
Campagnolo Centaur Carbon: $930

****All above are 2009 models.
d. Wheelset:
EA90 Aero: $440
EA90 SLX: $343
EC70 SL: $811
EC90 Aero: $1210
EC90 SLX: $1210
Zipp cutsom: $2000
Campy Eurus: $880
Campy Shamal: $1150
Fulcrum Racing One: $840
Fulcrum Racing Zero: $1100
e. Saddle:
Fizik Arione: $120
Fizik Arione CX: $160
Fizik Arione CX Carbon: $250
f. Pedals
****To be upated
g. Tire/Tube
For clinchers. Michelin Pro 3 Race + Aircomp: $70 (pair)
For tubulars. ****To be updated
h. bottlecage
FREE!
one for frameset.
two for complete bike.
+$13 for an extra one.

4. Warranty
Frame and fork: 3 years
Groupset and wheelset: 2 years
Seatpost, Stem, Handlebar: 1 year

free shipping replacement for manufacturing defects.
if you crach one, 15% off discount for new purchase

5. Shipping
EMS (http://www.ems.com.cn/english-main.jsp), cheap fast and reliable..
Pricing
America
First 0.5kg=$20
every extra 0.5kg=$8
Europe
First 0.5kg=$25
every extra 0.5kg=$8
Asia/Australia
First 0.5kg=$18
every extra 0.5kg=$8

This thread is worthless without pics!

Thanks...

When financials and delivery schedule get finalized, I can take it to the next level.

cheers

k

Patrick, you rock.

Do you have any details on how the frame rides? Or another frame we can compare it to?

looks cool, especially the grey...

reminds me of storck.

looks cool, especially the grey...

reminds me of storck.

actually this is what inspired me
http://image.motortrend.com/f/car-news/its-a-miracle-hamanns-540-horsepower-ferrari-f430/6387172+w600+cr1+re0+ar1/hamann-black-miracle-front-profile.jpg

Looks great. Interested to see pricing.

This thread is worthless without pics!

chill dude.
pics flooding in soon..

I'd like to remind everyone that this is Patrick's own brand. Please do not mention other brands in this thread, as it will only cause problems. Thank you.

Waiting...

OK, I'm interested.

Good thing I'm in college and have thousands of dollars to spend on a new bike :P

Patrick, you rock.

Do you have any details on how the frame rides? Or another frame we can compare it to?

this is a totally new frame model and nobody has tested it so far.
but here is another frame model which is made by the same factory and has the same front triangle and fork as Neo Exile but has different seat stays(Exile uses dual stays and this one a wishbone) and is made of materials of a lower grade (Exile is T800 and this one T500/T700 mix). The bike is in New Zealand and belongs to a pro racer. It is (as he said) very smooth, stiff and fast, basically everything you expect from a good racing bike.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/phallenthoul/004copy.jpg

hope this will help you know the frame better.

I forgot to mention that the duals seat stays is a major reason I am interested in this frame. I'll ask before the questions really start rolling in...can the frame be had unpainted as the above pix?

cheers

k

Some us are probably going to need a little more specs than pictures. It's kind of difficult to blind buy a frame. Put up some gruppos at silly pricing and I'm all over them, sans frameset. Can you post up a little more about yourself and your connections to/within in the industry, or point me to some BF history? Thanks.

I'm having a little problem with the comment "this is a totally new frame". If this is not coming from a set of molds that were used to produce another label, making molds for Patrick is just too silly a cost to comprehend. I know you need to have some type of smokescreen, but you might want to make it a little less foggy.

A LOT more photos here to be edited.

Hey which one is the actual Exile frame? Those depicted appear to have different rear triangles.

Hey which one is the actual Exile frame? Those depicted appear to have different rear triangles.

I think they look the same; the pictures are maybe from slightly different angles, and it's sort of hard to make out the lines on the white frame.

I think they look the same; the pictures are maybe from slightly different angles, and it's sort of hard to make out the lines on the white frame.

The black one looks straight-tubed while the white's rear seems to be manipulated.

yes sir. I'm in the market for a race bike, and this just might do if the price is right...

prices please

If no exact pricing is available, maybe you could provide a target price range to give us an idea.

I will add my plea for target pricing/more pictures/frame details please!

The white pic should be deleted. It has nothing to do with the offering.

I purchased the replica frame from phallenthoul. A+ guy. If yall have any questions feel free to ask.

Pic of my bike.

http://xdd.xanga.com/c97c755641231208301382/w162193845.jpg

I forgot to mention that the duals seat stays is a major reason I am interested in this frame. I'll ask before the questions really start rolling in...can the frame be had unpainted as the above pix?

cheers

k

the matte black Exile is unpainted. it looks different because it has uni-directional carbon fiber weave.
if you(or anybody) prefer 12K(or 3K) weave, I can do that individually for you.

the matte black Exile is unpainted. it looks different because it has uni-directional carbon fiber weave.
if you(or anybody) prefer 12K(or 3K) weave, I can do that individually for you.

please post a pic of the frame finish detail if/when you have it. is it a "raw" sort of carbon finish (which i LOVE), or a cosmetic overlay like most production carbon frames?

any idea when you will have pricing sorted out?

Some us are probably going to need a little more specs than pictures. It's kind of difficult to blind buy a frame. Put up some gruppos at silly pricing and I'm all over them, sans frameset. Can you post up a little more about yourself and your connections to/within in the industry, or point me to some BF history? Thanks.

I'm having a little problem with the comment "this is a totally new frame". If this is not coming from a set of molds that were used to produce another label, making molds for Patrick is just too silly a cost to comprehend. I know you need to have some type of smokescreen, but you might want to make it a little less foggy.

It's a new frame model and it's not made for me. this is an open model which means any company can buy them and put their logos and labels on. But it is new, whatever else logos on the frame, it's not going to happen before Neo Exile.

Ask as many questions on the BIKES as you like. I'll do my best to make it not-a-blind-buy

Hey which one is the actual Exile frame? Those depicted appear to have different rear triangles.

right...I did explained this part in the other thread..
i'll just past it here anyway.

please note that the white and black frames are different. and the black frame model is for the groupbuy and white isn't. I got the idea of a white frame from a BF member a couple of weeks ago. I thought it would be a great idea but didnt have time to have a new frame made so I simply repainted the W****r L*R** frame.

Originally I wanted matte black and glossy black as options. But I personally didnt like the glossy black sample frame so it was redone in matte black and turned out to be excellent...so here we have matte black and glossy pearl white. If you want other colors, please talk to me in private when it's time to place the order.

The white pic should be deleted. It has nothing to do with the offering.

it's a demostration of the color and finish.
it has a lot to do with the offering.

I purchased the replica frame from phallenthoul. A+ guy. If yall have any questions feel free to ask.

Pic of my bike.

http://xdd.xanga.com/c97c755641231208301382/w162193845.jpg

thanks.
but we can't see your bike...

It's a new frame model and it's not made for me. this is an open model which means any company can buy them and put their logos and labels on. But it is new, whatever else logos on the frame, it's not going to happen before Neo Exile.

Ask as many questions on the BIKES as you like. I'll do my best to make it not-a-blind-buy

HOW MUCH WILL THE BIKE COST?

please post a pic of the frame finish detail if/when you have it. is it a "raw" sort of carbon finish (which i LOVE), or a cosmetic overlay like most production carbon frames?

any idea when you will have pricing sorted out?

the pictures are being photoshopped..they'll be posted in 12hrs..

it is a cosmetic wrapping called zero-degree uni-directional, which is a little different from the ordinary uni-directional. I'm not so much a CF engineer and the terms all sound too sci-fi for me and that's the most I can (am able to, NOT want to) tell you..anyway I think this looks great, glad you people think so.

HOW MUCH WILL THE BIKE COST?

editing my post right now!!
chill...
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc36/JJfanclub_2007/ChillBeerJJ-b001182.jpg

Geez, how often do I need to repeat this? If other brands are mentioned here, those posts will be deleted. If I have to delete too many, the thread will be trashed.

Help Patrick, don't mention other brands.

Thank you.

ya sorry Kevin your post was deleted...
but please please dont mention any other bike/frame brands

Geez, how often do I need to repeat this? If other brands are mentioned here, those posts will be deleted. If I have to delete too many, the thread will be trashed.

Help Patrick, don't mention other brands.

Thank you.

why exactly are we not allowed to mention other brands? i don't get it.

what if i say, "hey, nice bike. it reminds me of a bianchi i used to own"?

why exactly are we not allowed to mention other brands? i don't get it.

what if i say, "hey, nice bike. it reminds me of a bianchi i used to own"?

Please contact Patrick for a full explanation. We don't want anyone to confuse his offerings with that of other companies.

This is starting to feel more like a drug deal than a group buy.

sorry about that, Patrick is a great guy to do business with and if the price is right (which I am sure it will be) I wouldn't hesitate. PM if you have any questions about my previous experiences with Pat.

This is starting to feel more like a drug deal than a group buy.

LMAO...Thats very, very funny....really.

Lets support this thread and stick to the rules eh folks?? Something tells me this group frame/bike buy may very well turn out to be the best offering yet on BF.

For whatever its worth...I've had numerous email/PM conversations with Patrick over many months and he strikes me as being totally honest, highly intelligent, solid integrity and on top of his game in this frame offering.

Its not every day we get a direct source to the country(s) of origin eh? Lets be nice to Patrick and give him room to breath.

cheers

k

Is there any chance of getting a frame without the decals?

Waiting..

Pricing info updated..

Is there any chance of getting a frame without the decals?

i could offer the frames w/o decals..but i wouldn't ..

Its not every day we get a direct source to the country(s) of origin eh? Lets be nice to Patrick and give him room to breath.

cheers

k

breathe**

This is starting to feel more like a drug deal than a group buy.

And you seem to be something of a troll.

Patrick,
Prices look niiiice, except I have a campy question. I assume those prices are for 2009, 11sp. Any way you can get 2008/10sp for cheaper? Or, maybe 2009 Centaur level?

I prefer campy, but the price difference between SRAM Red and Chorus is insane (I know it's not YOUR fault)...

God bless the Euro eh?

Great pricing Patrick...at some point shipping needs to be discussed when you are ready.

thanks