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JusticeZero
09-01-08, 03:27 PM
Texting drivers now face jail time (http://www.adn.com/news/government/story/512318.html)
About time.. Hopefully more to come.
http://www.legis.state.ak.us/PDF/25/Bills/HB0088Z.PDF


ilmooz
09-01-08, 07:29 PM
I read your post title and thought for sure this was going to be a Sarah Palin endorsement.

CB HI
09-01-08, 07:46 PM
"primary offense"
outstanding


Hickeydog
09-01-08, 08:07 PM
WOOT!!!:thumb:

waldowales
09-01-08, 08:16 PM
Hey, don't go! Let's talk about Palin! I think she is much more attractive than Biden! :)

dobber
09-01-08, 08:34 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2812194565_8df6d37891_m.jpg

eofelis
09-01-08, 08:36 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2812194565_8df6d37891_m.jpg

:roflmao2:

ATAC49er
09-01-08, 09:33 PM
Yup -- she's fine!!! I'd do her in a heartbeat -- but I gotta tell ya -- I'm a lot more comfortable with the thought of ME in her oval orifice than HER in the Oval Office!

JusticeZero
09-01-08, 11:53 PM
Oh, I think McCain's gamble on her is off to a bad start. Ms. Clean Campaign Family Values Evangelical Hope didn't even have time for the ink to dry on the newspapers announcing the decision and her corruption scandal ramped up a notch and she got 'Mom, i'm pregnant' from her 17 year old daughter. Palin is fairly competent and we could definitely do worse, but her platform just doesn't do it for me, personally.

fosmith
09-02-08, 03:44 AM
Yup -- she's fine!!! I'd do her in a heartbeat -- but I gotta tell ya -- I'm a lot more comfortable with the thought of ME in her oval orifice than HER in the Oval Office!

5 kids though..... gotta be like a throwin a hotdog down a hallway! :eek:

but yeah...the texting while driving = get locked up is sweet

globalsunset
09-02-08, 08:56 AM
She's cute. So is her pregnant daughter. The only thing is... god, who the hell named her kids? Piper? WILLOW?

And if you're going to be biking, bike. If you're driving, drive. No texting, reading, etc.

Pretty.in.Pink
09-02-08, 10:13 AM
Oh, I think McCain's gamble on her is off to a bad start. Ms. Clean Campaign Family Values Evangelical Hope didn't even have time for the ink to dry on the newspapers announcing the decision and her corruption scandal ramped up a notch and she got 'Mom, i'm pregnant' from her 17 year old daughter. Palin is fairly competent and we could definitely do worse, but her platform just doesn't do it for me, personally.

McCain knew of the pregnancy before he offered her the position.

Troopergate is a non-starter. And the *******s made themselves look even more stupid with the whole Trig is Bristol child routine. Even their savior Obama is telling them to back off.

Rather than focusing on the real issues facing the nation, we see the media and the nutjobs from both political spectrums running around looking in closets and under rugs for anything suitable for muckraking. Who gives a **** if Bristol got knocked up. There a hundreds, no, thousands of unwed mothers out there.....including Obamas.

genec
09-02-08, 11:40 AM
McCain knew of the pregnancy before he offered her the position.

Troopergate is a non-starter. And the *******s made themselves look even more stupid with the whole Trig is Bristol child routine. Even their savior Obama is telling them to back off.

Rather than focusing on the real issues facing the nation, we see the media and the nutjobs from both political spectrums running around looking in closets and under rugs for anything suitable for muckraking. Who gives a **** if Bristol got knocked up. There a hundreds, no, thousands of unwed mothers out there.....including Obamas.

Hate to continue the political muck racking... but it is the Republican party that tends to do the "looking in closets and under rugs for anything suitable..." at least when it comes to sex... and yet they then stand on "family values" while having lesbian children (current VP) and unwed children (potential next VP) and pointing out the other parties' weakness (getting BJ in office).

Perhaps if both parties focused on real issues, the country would be in a lot better shape.

BTW notice no use of derogatory terms when discussing "other party."

StrangeWill
09-02-08, 12:39 PM
**** people are going to fight the **** out of this.

I hope officer's dashboard cams record in high enough quality for ample evidence.

remsav
09-02-08, 01:52 PM
McCain knew of the pregnancy before he offered her the position.

Troopergate is a non-starter. And the *******s made themselves look even more stupid with the whole Trig is Bristol child routine. Even their savior Obama is telling them to back off.

Rather than focusing on the real issues facing the nation, we see the media and the nutjobs from both political spectrums running around looking in closets and under rugs for anything suitable for muckraking. Who gives a **** if Bristol got knocked up. There a hundreds, no, thousands of unwed mothers out there.....including Obamas.

Troopergate could be a problem IF she lies under oath to the investigators like Clinton did about the BJ. It's pretty clear there was pressure with 25 phone calls by her staff ,husband and the firing afterwards.

I think Obama knows it's a bad strategy attacking the kids and I concur with that view.

I swear they named the kids where they conceived them. Bristol (Bristol bay), Willow (Willow stream), Piper (Piper plane) ;)

Speedo
09-02-08, 03:38 PM
I swear they named the kids where they conceived them. Bristol (Bristol bay), Willow (Willow stream), Piper (Piper plane) ;)

You're on a roll. Track and Trig?

Alpha52
09-02-08, 03:52 PM
Oh, I think McCain's gamble on her is off to a bad start. Ms. Clean Campaign Family Values Evangelical Hope didn't even have time for the ink to dry on the newspapers announcing the decision and her corruption scandal ramped up a notch and she got 'Mom, i'm pregnant' from her 17 year old daughter. Palin is fairly competent and we could definitely do worse, but her platform just doesn't do it for me, personally.

What platform? And yes, we could do a lot worse, like Obama..:roflmao2:

By the way, what does her teen aged daughter have to do with anything? Would you prefer she have an abortion? I think it's pretty cool the way she is standing by her.

Let's see, she controls 20% of the oil produced in America, she is a mother of five, Alaska has a balanced budget....it's working for me. Plus she has never been in Congress....another BIG PLUS.

Face it folks, when Obama passed over Hillary, he threw any chance of winning the election. For him to question Phalin's experience is certainly the pot calling the kettle black....:rolleyes:

HoustonB
09-02-08, 04:03 PM
... Rather than focusing on the real issues facing the nation, we see the media and the nutjobs from both political spectrums running around looking in closets and under rugs for anything suitable for muckraking. Who gives a **** if Bristol got knocked up. There a hundreds, no, thousands of unwed mothers out there.....including Obamas.

America is estimated to have some 750,000 teenage pregnancies a year. The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy recently estimated that $9.1bn in public funding was expended on teenage childbearing in 2004. These costs include public assistance, healthcare, child welfare and other expenses.

The problem is not promiscuous teenagers, it is the absence of dirt cheap and near silent condom dispensers on the back of toilet doors in schools, combined with imbeciles that think teaching 'abstinence' is an adequate solution.

The problem is the people that are ******** enough to prevent children seeing educational material with graphic examples of a lion sinking it's teeth into the neck of a new born zebra - but are determined to make us all live in a constant state of fear from terrorists. :notamused:

I am so relieved that you know what the "real issues" are. :rolleyes:

Speedo
09-02-08, 04:14 PM
Face it folks, when Obama passed over Hillary, he threw any chance of winning the election. For him to question Phalin's experience is certainly the pot calling the kettle black....:rolleyes:

Her name is spelled Palin.

Speedo

Pretty.in.Pink
09-02-08, 04:35 PM
America is estimated to have some 750,000 teenage pregnancies a year. The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy recently estimated that $9.1bn in public funding was expended on teenage childbearing in 2004. These costs include public assistance, healthcare, child welfare and other expenses.



So I guess the medias answer to the problem is shaming them.

Pretty.in.Pink
09-02-08, 04:36 PM
You're on a roll. Track and Trig?


Under the bleachers and with the Math teacher

HoustonB
09-02-08, 04:53 PM
... Let's see, she controls 20% of the oil produced in America, she is a mother of five, Alaska has a balanced budget....it's working for me. Plus she has never been in Congress....another BIG PLUS ...


"Alaska has a balanced budget...it's working for me"
California, biggest population of any state at 36.5 million. Alaska 47th with 700 thousand.
California crude oil reserves estimated at 3,435 million barrels.
Alaska crude oil reserves estimated at 4,171 million barrels.
Alaska also has more than double California's estimated Natural Gas reserves at 8.1 billion cubic feet.
So with oil reserves very close to those of Texas (the biggest in the nation) and a population tantamount to nothing, they can balance their budget, wow I am so impressed. :rolleyes:


"Plus she has never been in Congress....another BIG PLUS"
:roflmao2: She has absolutely no experience and that is a "plus"!


"she controls 20% of the oil produced in America, she is a mother of five"
Yay, she has God's own vulva, just what the nation needs. :rolleyes:

HoustonB
09-02-08, 05:05 PM
So I guess the medias answer to the problem is shaming them.

Which is more important the media's answer, or a real solution?

Why do you care so much about the media's answer?

trekker pete
09-02-08, 05:18 PM
America is estimated to have some 750,000 teenage pregnancies a year. The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy recently estimated that $9.1bn in public funding was expended on teenage childbearing in 2004. These costs include public assistance, healthcare, child welfare and other expenses.

The problem is not promiscuous teenagers, it is the absence of dirt cheap and near silent condom dispensers on the back of toilet doors in schools, combined with imbeciles that think teaching 'abstinence' is an adequate solution.

The problem is the people that are ******** enough to prevent children seeing educational material with graphic examples of a lion sinking it's teeth into the neck of a new born zebra - but are determined to make us all live in a constant state of fear from terrorists. :notamused:

I am so relieved that you know what the "real issues" are. :rolleyes:

I agree that their needs to be access to condoms. And I am fairly sure that there is. Trouble is, we are talking about kids here. They have the "it won't happen to me attitude". And you know damn well that guys hate using the damn things.

What there needs to be is more support for teens adapting these children out to the countless families unable or unwilling to have their own.

Hopefully Palin's kid will chose this route, but, with the publicity that would get, it is probably not possible.

Darkrider23
09-02-08, 06:02 PM
Now, if only they would pass a law so that anyone using a phone while driving(without a headset) gets sent to jail on the first offense. Can't stand people who use phones while they're driving.

Alpha52
09-02-08, 06:19 PM
"Alaska has a balanced budget...it's working for me"
California, biggest population of any state at 36.5 million. Alaska 47th with 700 thousand.
California crude oil reserves estimated at 3,435 million barrels.
Alaska crude oil reserves estimated at 4,171 million barrels.
Alaska also has more than double California's estimated Natural Gas reserves at 8.1 billion cubic feet.
So with oil reserves very close to those of Texas (the biggest in the nation) and a population tantamount to nothing, they can balance their budget, wow I am so impressed. :rolleyes:


"Plus she has never been in Congress....another BIG PLUS"
:roflmao2: She has absolutely no experience and that is a "plus"!


"she controls 20% of the oil produced in America, she is a mother of five"
Yay, she has God's own vulva, just what the nation needs. :rolleyes:


Houston, you are hilarious dude.

I love it when a kooky liberal tries to argue against facts.. As usual, you missed the point. If you question her experience, then where does that leave Obama? What has he run, a campaign staff? :D
And now he picks Biden, who voted yes on Iraq....

"God's own vulva???" I'll bet next you will start with the insults about her mother...:roflmao2:

bakaster
09-02-08, 06:43 PM
It leaves Obama with significantly more experience than she has had in Washington (aka a little vs none) which was one of the big republican points criticizing Obama....seems odd to pick someone that goes directly against some of their points against Obama.

In her favor, while experience, and (to some) family values might not be her strongest points (nor are they remotely McCains', seeing that he publicly called his wife a c*nt) when running, she has managed to do a pretty good job of taking care of the significant corruption present in Alaska before she became governor.

What i can't figure out is what made McCain chose her. There are plenty of other people that take the same stance as she does and have more experience. Is the lack of experience a good thing now in McCain's eyes? or is the fact that she is a woman enough to overlook her lack of experience(from McCains view)? Is it nothing more than a desperate bid for the Hillary supporters? In which case it seems like an insult to the intelligence of the Hillary supporters as the only thing that Hillary and Palin have in common is their gender and that they are both in politics.

All i can say is i am looking foward to the vice-presidential debate!

oh and to the OP i think that jail time for texters is awesome!

genec
09-02-08, 06:59 PM
What platform? And yes, we could do a lot worse, like Obama..:roflmao2:

By the way, what does her teen aged daughter have to do with anything? Would you prefer she have an abortion? I think it's pretty cool the way she is standing by her.


Too bad they don't stand by their "family values" and teach the the abstinence that they preach. Frankly I would think prevention would a far better example than unwed motherhood.

Carusoswi
09-03-08, 01:49 AM
What platform? And yes, we could do a lot worse, like Obama..:roflmao2:

By the way, what does her teen aged daughter have to do with anything?
The teen aged daughter has little to do with anything. The choices made by McCain in the manner that he chose his running mate and then the manner in which the news of the daughter's pregnancy was disclosed causes many to second guess his leadership style.


Would you prefer she have an abortion?
I keep hearing that question, but only from McCain backers. It's as though this daughter's pregnancy is purposely being thrown out for non-backers to pounce on, and the McCain team seems frustrated that BO and his team have not taken the bait. I have heard nothing from the Obama side that even suggests anything other than approval that mom is supporting daughter.


I think it's pretty cool the way she is standing by her.
I think it's normal . . . goes on in America 90% of the time. There are plenty of parents on both sides of the abortion issue that, when faced with a similar situation in their personal lives, make the same choice and offer the same level of support to their children/unborn grandchildren. Anti-abortionists do not have a lock on this virtue, although they tend to portray that they do.




Let's see, she controls 20% of the oil produced in America

????? She controls the oil in Alaska? Really? I don't think so.


For him [Obama] to question Phalin's experience is certainly the pot calling the kettle black....:rolleyes:

Again, it appears to me that the McCain camp did some calculating on how hard Obama would pounce on the inexperience thing. So far, he has exercised restraint, and has treated the VP wannabe with respect. I am certain this irritates some of McCain's strategists to no end.

It also amazes me how the current crop of Rove practitioners can take virtue and turn it to garbage when doing so suits their political agenda. When questioned about this pregnancy, Obama was quick to announce his position that it was off-limits, pointing out that his own life began under similar circumstances. Yet, he continues to be pounded as though he was the hypocrite.

It's all very interesting (and also sad) to watch.

Caruso

Carusoswi
09-03-08, 02:01 AM
Which is more important the media's answer, or a real solution?

Why do you care so much about the media's answer?

. . . because R Limberger has invented this specter that he calls the drive-by media. He personified it skillfully, and invents/manipulates issues and supplies answers to the mouth of this invention to suit his own agenda. Ditto-heads buy in hook, line, and sinker.

It surprises me that citizens living in tough areas where the term drive-by refers to life threatening activity by thugs of this world are not outraged by his appropriation of that term on his show.

It also amazes me that listeners are so gullible to believe that his show is nothing more than entertainment. It is carefully scripted, callers carefully screened, and, whenever (if ever) the discussion gets of the predetermined path, he has the power of the button and the time delay to override any dissenting voice.

Very interesting, but also very sad.

Caruso

Az B
09-03-08, 06:46 AM
Text messaging bad. Turning a non political thread into one is even worse.

Mmmk?

Az

apricissimus
09-03-08, 06:56 AM
I had taken the lane this morning to pass a couple of slower cyclists in the bike lane, and I had a guy behind me leaning on his horn, even after I had passed and gotten back into the bike lane.

When I caught up to him later as he was starting back up as a light turned from red to green, I saw he was fiddling with his cell phone, not even looking at the road.

Grrrrrrr...

It's funny, if you talk to most people, they'll agree that texting or otherwise using your cell phone while driving is a very bad idea, yet when you're out on the street, you see these drivers everywhere. Who are these people??

mikesdca
09-03-08, 07:00 AM
I signed. Thanks for the post. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing cyclists flaunt this law...and then getting indignant when anyone has the gall to call them on it. I can`t work up one bit of sympathy for a red light running cyclist who gets hit and killed. Your average driver is even less sympathetic than me. If we want to be respected as fellow road users we need to start following the rules that all road users are expected to follow. End of my rant.

Feldman
09-03-08, 08:41 AM
I would be terrified to have yet another high US official in the condition of: small state essentially local government experience, and the subscriber to as harsh and narrow a religious vision as Saudi Wahabbi Muslims, plus a bought and paid for ***** of the oil industry--we have had two such people as President and VP for eight years already, enough!

Pretty.in.Pink
09-03-08, 10:13 AM
I would be terrified to have yet another high US official in the condition of: small state essentially local government experience, and the subscriber to as harsh and narrow a religious vision as Saudi Wahabbi Muslims, plus a bought and paid for ***** of the oil industry--we have had two such people as President and VP for eight years already, enough!

Right.

Remind me again of what experience Bill Clinton had before coming to office?

apricissimus
09-03-08, 10:31 AM
Right.

Remind me again of what experience Bill Clinton had before coming to office?

I think it's telling that you (and most people probably) would assume that a critic of Republicans must be a supporter of Democrats.

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I'm just depressed at the either/or dichotomy that exists in American government.

JusticeZero
09-03-08, 01:25 PM
Attacking Bristol is pretty silly. 'zomg an unwed mother!' Um.. the child is Bristol's FIANCEE'S.. hardly "unwed". She's on the marriage track.
I'm not a Palin fan, but watching the silly, meaningless non-issues people are attacking her on is pretty surreal. She's fumbled enough in substantive ways professionally with her pattern of replacing everyone who isn't on her side that people shouldn't need to make a big deal of things that are totally absurd.

dobber
09-03-08, 05:33 PM
Attacking Bristol is pretty silly. 'zomg an unwed mother!' Um.. the child is Bristol's FIANCEE'S.. hardly "unwed". She's on the marriage track.
I'm not a Palin fan, but watching the silly, meaningless non-issues people are attacking her on is pretty surreal. She's fumbled enough in substantive ways professionally with her pattern of replacing everyone who isn't on her side that people shouldn't need to make a big deal of things that are totally absurd.

You should visit Digg. Of the five Palin stories making the front page, four of them have now been tagged as inaccurate. Its sad to see that the democratic process has devolved to this state. I think there is more integrity, honesty and fair play in high school elections.