Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Differance in "Roadie" Bikes
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Jerry in So IL
09-03-08, 05:36 AM
Ok, with all the talk of roadie bikes, I was wondering what is the real differance between the different types. I know a touring roadie has a longer and stronger frame than the "regular" roadies I've rode. I don't know what the differance in cyclocross bikes and the touring and regular ones or the touring.
Also, I have a Schwinn World Class in layaway. The best way I explain it is as a lightweight touring bike. I has drops, briffers, two sets of brake handles, is setup for a good rack system, and has a carbon fork and rear "triangle". It was a 2006 left over, seems noone wanted it due it its XL size frame and higher price. Its brand new and I got it right, compared to the newer priced ones. Its the same length as teh World Class Tourer. Nice skinny tires also. Anyways, it rode great and handled good also. Does anyone have any input on this model?
09-03-08, 06:27 AM
A slight sampling of my somewhat mediocre knowledgs.........
"Road" Bike- Has more of an "aggressive" geometry. Current fashion is the compact frame with somewhat shorter top tub to allow for the aggressive riding position. Fork and head tube rake are as such to make for quicker, more responsive handling. New riders to Road bikes often refer to this as "twitchy" feeling. Seat tube angle is designed for lower posture. Modern road bikes are set up to typically have a much lower bar than seat relationship. Typically runs much more narrow (23-25) and higher pressure tires for less rolling Resistance. Wheels tend to be a lower spoke count these days.
Touring Bike - Much more relaxed geometry. less head tube and fork rake to allow for more stable handling. This is also assisted by the longer chain stays which also help eliminate heel strike on pannier bags. Typically, the handle bar and seat adjustment is such to allow for a more upright riding position. The tourer is usually heavier than the standard roadie. Runs a larger tire (32- 38) at lower pressure. Geared very low for loaded touring. Designed for long periods of saddle time.
Cross Bike - geometry wise is a combination of the two kinds. It is a bit more of a road geometry in the head and fork rake, and has less of an aggressive cockpit for the rider. It can typically run tires in line with the touring bikes and accommodates the knobbie approach as well. Used for off road racing, typically has cantilever or V brakes. Most models come with braze ons and eyelets for racks and fenders. If a rider maintains two sets of wheels, one with off road tires and one with road tires, you get the best of both worlds by merely changing wheels. The same can be accomplished with having a set of slicks and a set of knobbies, but your slicks will tend to be more wide, like a touring bike. Is much more rugged than a road bike, allowing for trail excursions and curb hopping, but less of a land yacht than a touring bike. Serves well as a commuter and light touring bike, but can do extended touring with a trailer.
09-04-08, 06:51 PM
Tx vintages mediocre knowledge is dead on correct. About the Schwinn, I'm not too familiar with any of their bikes outside of the Fastback models. Those are great bikes even if they are underrated by most cyclists. The Schwinn you're talking about sounds like a decent model from the stats I've read on it and if you feel comfortable on it, go for it. Isn't that the most important thing anyway? By the way, don't touring bikes generally come with steel forks or is my knowledge outdated?
09-04-08, 07:33 PM
By the way, don't touring bikes generally come with steel forks or is my knowledge outdated?
I think it's pretty much an industry standard, although the newer "Light" touring bikes might offer something different. I just haven't loked them.
I would not hang racks and Panniers off of a CF fork, even if I were 70+ lbs lighter, lol.
Jerry in So IL
09-05-08, 10:19 AM
Its the first "real" roadie bike that fit me enoight to ride an hour in work clothes! LBS owner thought I had either stoled it or gotten hit! So I don't know if they its taboo for it to have a carbon fork. Nice that it does though.
I doubt I put more than a light weight read rack and bags for a change of clothes, snacks, and biking survival gear in it. I'm going to be riding some centuries on it nxt year.
Thanks for the brief on them.
09-05-08, 10:44 AM
I wouldn't hesitate to put a rear rack and bags on a CF forked bike. I was referring to a front rack and bags. Just seems like a bad idea, lol.
Jerry in So IL
09-05-08, 11:09 AM
I understand. I was talking about the back end also.
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