Advocacy & Safety - clear channel makes an offer, feedback please

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gobybicycle.com
02-24-04, 11:27 AM
clear channel has offered to join up with me to do a "public service campaign" about bikes. they say they want the local cycling community in portland to get together and do some of the work, and clear channel will provide the space to publicize.
any thoughts? anyone ever worked with them? obviously this very well could be damage control for their anti-bike stuff, but it may be worth it to use the resources to get the message out.
please provide all range of thought about this, as it will be an important decision for bicycling and has implications on our role in things.
scott larkin
LittleBigMan
02-24-04, 12:04 PM
clear channel has offered to join up with me to do a "public service campaign" about bikes.
please provide all range of thought about this, as it will be an important decision for bicycling and has implications on our role in things.
On the one hand, it could appear Clear Channel is being very shallow in this matter, since they might have personal motives for doing this which are very different from yours. But on the other hand, their desire to do a public service campaign about bikes shows that they are feeling the pressure from cyclists and bicycling advocates to clean up their act.
While it could seem cynical of Clear Channel to be doing a public service campaign about bikes, there is an old saying: don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Then again, once you get the horse in the barn, you might want to take a look when nobody else is watching.
Da Tinker
02-24-04, 12:51 PM
Hook up with the League of American Bicyclists to coordinate. They have been on point in exacting this act of contrition from Clear Channel.
In Cleveland , we received a $10,000 settlement: the end result of clearchannel djs encouranging reckless and dangerous behaviour by auto drivers towards bicyclists. Contact Lois Cowan (lois@centurycycles.com) and/or Ryan (ryancleve@core.com) for information regarding their experiences with clearchannel.
http://www.kycyclist.org/jul2003/0044.html
http://www.ecocitycleveland.org/index.html
go by bicycle!
Advertising is expensive. Take them up on the idea. How about a month of one of their billboards located along a congested highway. Have them put up a picture of a happy cyclist with a caption, "Cycle to work and avoid the jam!"
cyclezealot
02-24-04, 08:15 PM
They are destructive to the well being of the American music scene. The only contrition they can perform is end their monlopolistic attitude towards music and news. Broaden their music offering..End music censorship. Bring back decent dj's. Let their local outlets serve their communities. Local control.
They could buy me a brand new Colagno. Build bike trails, give my local bike advocates thousands of dollars. THey are doing this just for guilt, fear of legal actions, and marketing.
Sell off 2/3 of their stations, buy me a new Colagno and I might be willing to listen to their crappy stations..I want independent radio. We as owners of the airwaves( all the American people of this natural resource) have every right to demand decent radio.
Otherwise, I will continue to bash and even protest Clear Channel.
They are destructive to the well being of the American music scene. The only contrition they can perform is end their monlopolistic attitude towards music and news. Broaden their music offering..End music censorship. Bring back decent dj's. Let their local outlets serve their communities. Local control.
They could buy me a brand new Colagno. Build bike trails, give my local bike advocates thousands of dollars. THey are doing this just for guilt, fear of legal actions, and marketing.
Sell off 2/3 of their stations, buy me a new Colagno and I might be willing to listen to their crappy stations..I want independent radio. We as owners of the airwaves( all the American people of this natural resource) have every right to demand decent radio.
Otherwise, I will continue to bash and even protest Clear Channel.
Corporations don't feel guilt, even if guilty. Donating money or services to worthy causes does not reduce or eliminate legal liabilities. Providing community services is a marketing technique. Next time you go to an organized bike ride, or marathon, or opera, or 'walk for the shoeless', notice how there are a bunch of sponsors. some are large corporations, some are local companies. It's just a way to get your company name associated with something good. The 'worthy cause' gets some free support, the corporate sponsor gets a tax break and some free publicity, and the public gets some gatorade and a tee shirt.
prevail24
02-24-04, 09:31 PM
Corporations don't feel guilt, even if guilty. Donating money or services to worthy causes does not reduce or eliminate legal liabilities. Providing community services is a marketing technique. Next time you go to an organized bike ride, or marathon, or opera, or 'walk for the shoeless', notice how there are a bunch of sponsors. some are large corporations, some are local companies. It's just a way to get your company name associated with something good. The 'worthy cause' gets some free support, the corporate sponsor gets a tax break and some free publicity, and the public gets some gatorade and a tee shirt.
Usually those companies that support races and otehr events are not trying to CTOA (cover their own ass). Clear Channel is one of the worst companies to be allowed to make a monopoly over america. Like the other poster said, they are doing everything they can to take over all music, entertainment, advertising, etc. With them and Ted Turner, no one will be allowed to think out of the box and everyone who wants a differing opinion from either of those companies will have to find their own media outlets that provide the real info. I tend to avoid clear channel events, venues, stations, etc at every chance I get.
http://clearchannelsucks.org/
iceratt
02-25-04, 12:33 AM
I like the billboard idea. For what ever reasons, CC can decide to support biking, driving, lawn mowing, or whatever. They do it for their gain, but if cyclists can benefit too, thats good for us. If they promote gardening to make themselves look down to earth, cyclists won't benefit. Deseved anger at their business practices will do little to rein in these practices.
Personaly, I find just about all comercial radio painful, as it is filled with horrid advertisements, and neanderthal content( no disrespect to our distant cousins intended).
cyclezealot
02-25-04, 01:40 AM
Ice...You read the articles of the FCC charter. The public airwaves belongs to the people as a natural resource. Too many people are conditioned to accept what is. The FCC's charter so far requires public input into what goes over our airwaves.. Communications is too important to just let crooks feed us crap.
Outrage is warranted and the public lies down and accepts crap over the air.
Well, it efffects our brains. What they say crap in + crap out= crappy something.
Thats our minds we let them waste, utilizing a public domain at their self enrichment..I can not and will not accept that. No wonder I hear from teacher friends, that so many of their kids thinks New Mexico is in Mexico. It gets worse.
Maybe you think filming adults eating maggots is normal. I do not.
DanFromDetroit
02-25-04, 06:06 AM
The PSA's sound like a good thing.
A good thing is still good regardless of the self-serving motivation of the sponsor. I have just two things to say:
You have to take good advantage things when they come along.
The CCC hegemony is still *evil* regardless of window dressing like this. They will probably not be able to change my mind until they change their media policy as well as their views on cycling.
Dan
LittleBigMan
02-25-04, 07:25 AM
They could buy me a brand new Colagno.
:roflmao:
Cyclezealot for Pres.!
Someone said elsewhere, "In order to give my dog a pill, I wrap it in a piece of cheese." And also, "Sometimes I just act like the pill is a treat and my dog gobbles it up."
I don't want scraps from the table (unless it's a brand-new Conalgo! :beer: )
cyclezealot
02-25-04, 09:18 AM
:roflmao:
Cyclezealot for Pres.!
Someone said elsewhere, "In order to give my dog a pill, I wrap it in a piece of cheese." And also, "Sometimes I just act like the pill is a treat and my dog gobbles it up."
I don't want scraps from the table (unless it's a brand-new Conalgo! :beer: )
Thanks..LBM...I will settle for a commission seat on the FCC as long as they let me ride my Colagno to meetings and still vote independently.
LittleBigMan
02-25-04, 10:14 AM
Thanks..LBM...I will settle for a commission seat on the FCC as long as they let me ride my Colagno to meetings and still vote independently.
That would be ok, too.
:D
(Cyclezealot, I love your sense of humor!)
I think we should take them up on the PSA offer, even if it does benefit them, as well. We should keep pushing for everything we can get.
Clear Channel Communications is the best argument I have encountered for the PBS radio station network. Since I listen almost exclusively to KUSC and KPBS, I technically cannot START a boycott of CC stations. :)
georgesnatcher
02-27-04, 10:09 AM
Clear Channel amazes me!!!!!!!! On one hand they have a group of on air personalities who vilify and invite attacks on cyclists. These "people" are "suspended" and Clear Channel makes donations and PSA's. On the other hand, they ban Howard Stern because he is offensive. To me the more offensive of the two is the groups of personalities who were trying to incite assaults on cyclists.
Take whatever you can get out of these hypocritical SOB's. I have to believe their only reason for doing so is because of the outcry from cyclists and resulting letters to the FCC.
The one thing I would ask for is that it become their policy that this type of behavior will not be tolerated and the offenders will be fired. Imagine what the FCC would have done if these "personalities" were advocating attacks based race, religion etc.
LittleBigMan
02-27-04, 10:52 AM
The one thing I would ask for is that it become their policy that this type of behavior will not be tolerated and the offenders will be fired. Imagine what the FCC would have done if these "personalities" were advocating attacks based race, religion etc.
Exactly. It never would have happened in the first place (I hope.) So it should never happen to us, either.
As I've mentioned before the CCC stations here in Sioux City are going to be sole for profit radio station to promote the Tri-State Trails Tour bike ride that the Siouxland Trails Foundation, (STF), is hosting in May. STF is getting around $10,000 in free promotions.
One thing I don't think I mentioned is I went to them first to ask how they can help. This was the decision of me and the STF. Now part of the reason is because of what happened in places like Cleveland. Even though the General Manager will not admit to the true reason CCC is helping promote the ride and STF myself and STF's advisory board knows why.
We have no problem with that. There are about 103,000 people living in this immediate area. 60,000 to 70,000 listen to one of CCC's 5 stations. Thats a lot of people that will find out about the ride & STF.
Now call me a traitor to the cause of cycling or what ever you want to call me for going to CCC in the first place. I have no regrets about it. And I'm glad CCC is offering their help.
Will they benefit from it? Yes they more then likely will. And why shouldn't they? But you know what? So will STF.
georgesnatcher
02-27-04, 01:16 PM
Like I said "take whatever you can get from these hypocritical SOBs".
I just really think if some and/or everyone would tell CCC to stick it where the sun don't shine that would really make a statement. Imagine doing that and a local or national (nonCCC) station picking up the story. You would get your publicity and CCC would get the slap they so richly deserve.
closetbiker
02-28-04, 09:36 AM
They are destructive to the well being of the American music scene. The only contrition they can perform is end their monlopolistic attitude towards music and news. Broaden their music offering..End music censorship. Bring back decent dj's. Let their local outlets serve their communities. Local control.
Elvis had it right 25 years ago. If only more had listened.
:(
I was tuning in the shine on the light night dial
Doing anything my radio advised
With every one of those late night stations
Playing songs bringing tears to me eyes
I was seriously thinking about hiding the receiver
When the switch broke ’cause it’s old
They’re saying things that I can hardly believe.
They really think we’re getting out of control.
Radio is a sound salvation
Radio is cleaning up the nation
They say you better listen to the voice of reason
But they don’t give you any choice
’cause they think that it’s treason.
So you had better do as you are told.
You better listen to the radio.
I wanna bite the hand that feeds me.
I wanna bite that hand so badly.
I want to make them wish they’d never seen me.
Some of my friends sit around every evening
And they worry about the times ahead
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference
And the promise of an early death
You either shut up or get cut up;
They don’t wanna hear about it.
It’s only inches on the reel-to-reel.
And the radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools
Tryin’ to anaesthetise the way that you feel
cyclezealot
02-29-04, 12:24 AM
Closetbiker..Thanks so much for those lines of Elvis. Very insightful..A side of Elvis I had not remembered.
closetbiker
02-29-04, 09:11 AM
I was devestated that he didn't become the next most popular act.
Poppy melodies, brilliant arrangements, and lyrics like that. How could he not be considered the best?
It sure woke me up to some realities when he received the level of approval he did.
cyclezealot
02-29-04, 10:24 AM
By the way..Closetbiker. YOu are lucky..You live in B.C., I see...You do not have to listen to American radio. Last I knew, Living where I could pick up Ontario radio, you had diversity. AM particularily, back then had tremendous variety.
(AM, what is that?) But do any AMericans notice how many Canadians make it into the AMerican music scene.?
I suspect it is the spillover effect of Canadian radio, with its local content laws. Americans pick up Canadian music, since Canadian radio spills over into the U.S....... American promoters likely hear Canadian artists first, since U.S. media does not give new American artists easy access and U.S. recording studios have such regimented content....... Just my suspicion.
I doubt AMerican promoters spend much time in Canada, purposely looking for Canadian talent. There must be some reason why Canadian musicians seem to get recognized so readily..Good for them..
Artists like Margo TImmins needs be picked up on. Too bad our creative American musicians have to suffer.
Is it possible to trick them into a deal which would actually not help them at all? I imagine getting them to sign a deal giving you the ability to put up whatever advert you want (they would have to only assume it'd be bike-related for this to work), and then you could put up "anti-CCC" ads on their billboards.
Another thing to do, besides talking to other bike groups who've tried working with CCC, is to talk to a lawyer and ask if it would still be possible to sue them after getting this free service from them.
Whoa there shark. First of all if there is any written contract drawn up and signed by both parties will spell out the details in which each party in responsible for. And any change from those specified details that each party is to carry out will be a breach of the contract. Which means whom ever breaches the contract will probably be sued.
If it is only a verbal contract, I don't know what happens if such a contract is breached and how it would stand up in a civil court.
Wouldn't suing them after getting a free service from them be a bit hippocritical? I mean I know there are a lot of people who'd like to stick it to CCC but aren't things getting a little imature here? It seems like there are those who have a personal agenda against them and they are dragging a larger part of the population into the fight with them. Not to mention such a suit could be considered frivolous and get thrown out.
If you have a personal agenda against CCC fine, but find others who feel the same way and deal with it as a collective group and in a sensable manner. Don't try to drag those of us who don't want to be a part of it or don't have a personal beef with them into it.
Keep in mind though that things have already been done to correct the damage they caused. And an active plan is in place to prevent it from happening again. The LAB helped with that, and IMHO they did a good job. It could have been a lot worse.
cyclezealot
03-02-04, 09:20 AM
It is not a personal agenda...They are destroying access to entertainment and news. They are depriving us of good broadcast content on a publically owned and regulated medium.
Not personal at all. Based on some of us are concerned about what we see and hear over our media. Some of us do not want garbage in. As Newton Minnow called radio and TV a 'wasteland.' They are destroying the development our culture and further more debasing it.
Personal. I disagree strongly...... No differnent than the crap we see on TV and CCC will make it worse. Some of us do not accept being forced to be spoon fed crap. We are captives to the car long enough besides being force fed crap, while being stuck in that metal box.
Allister
03-02-04, 04:48 PM
Some of us do not accept being forced to be spoon fed crap. We are captives to the car long enough besides being force fed crap, while being stuck in that metal box.
So put on a CD.
cyclezealot
03-02-04, 04:58 PM
So put on a CD.
Not good enough..We own those airwaves and I demand quality broadcasting..If not mine, it ruins many other good minds.... Besides if we don't have a good media outlet; tell me, pray tell, how can you know what the hell CD to buy, if new artists are not played.? Just go out and buy any favored artist unheard...
I am not alone in this uprising over crappy media..Many other musicians have formed advocacy groups so that their music gets an outlet.
Cyclezealot can you please give an example of what types of music you'd like to hear on the radio?
As I've stated before there are 5 CCC stations in this area.
One is called KGLI or KG 95, they play pop & rock, all the current popular stuff as well as music from the '70's & '80's.
Then there is KSEZ or Z-98 they play the harder rock & roll, again the current popular stuf as well as music from the '70's & '80's.
There is KSFT 107.1 FM they play the soft rock. I imagine they play the current popular stuff as well as the music from the '70's & '80's.
There is also a station called 1470 KWSL which is the Fox Sports station.
And finally in the CCC family for this area is KMNS AM 620 which is the News & talk radios station.
I have yet to hear bad quality broadcasting from any of these stations & i have listend to all 5.
Maybe the CCC stations in other areas or your area is differant cyclezealot, but around here it has never been considered crappy media.
I don't know maybe the differance is because you are on the west coast of the US and my area is the midwest where things are a lot differant.
This area also has stations that play country music, 2 in fact. And we have a station that plays classical. As well as a few others that play pop & rock, etc.
CCC only owns 5 of them. The others are either owned by Powell Broadcasting or Waitt Media & one station is the non-profit public radio station that is run by Western Iowa Tech. Community College.
There are other stations as well but I do not know what they are or where they are located. This is a tri-state area so the music selection is very good around here. There are 14 stations listed in the yellow pages.
There is no shortage of music for this area. And just about every genre of music is covered here. The ones I listed or mentioned above are only a portion of what someone can pick up on their stereo's.
cyclezealot
03-03-04, 01:56 AM
The only way to test this idea is to compare play lists with independent and CCC linked stations..
The list of stations is pretty sketchy information from what you provide. You really only mention format, not station content.....In fact I am hardly a professional surveyer who can quote playlists from one station to another.
from my own personal experience, all I can say, is when I drove across the United States about a year ago, I could find no decent station in most every major city I passed. I expect variety.Even my one favorite local independent station plays less variety than I expect but they do pretty good.
..Does your station have as many little known artists as the play list I display below.?
My feelings are personal..I have not the time or money to do my own surveys..Just what I hear. But what I hear is lousy news and top 40 type formats, plus obnoxious dj's..
Please. Review the list I displayed and let me know, if your offerings are as extensive as this station that I rate as good.This play lists is not as long as some community stations that I recall, but still pretty good.
thanks... ever heard of most of these artists.? Does the stations you listed, dig deep into the b sides of cd's.?...Hope this helps..If not convinced, I suggest you search web sites similiar to the one listed in this very thread.
Last 6 Hours Playlist
Time Artist Song CD
12:40 am GUSTER CAREFUL KEEP IT TOGETHER
12:35 am DISHWALLA COUNTING BLUE CARS PET YOUR FRIENDS
12:32 am TEARS FOR FEARS CLOSEST THING TO HEAVEN EVERYBODY LOVES A HAPPY ENDING
12:29 am TRAVELING WILBURYS HANDLE WITH CARE VOLUME 0NE
12:25 am WARREN ZEVON KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR THE WIND
12:21 am JIMMIE VAUGHAN BOOM-BAPA-BOOM STRANGE PLEASURE
12:11 am BARENAKED LADIES TESTING 1,2,3 EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE
12:07 am STEELY DAN DO IT AGAIN CAN'T BUY A THRILL
12:04 am DONAVON FRANKENREIT/JACK JOHNSON FREE DONAVON FRANKENREITER
12:01 am COWBOY JUNKIES A COMMON DISASTER LAY IT DOWN
11:57 pm JASON MRAZ SUMMER BREEZE PRIVATE STUDIO RECORDING
11:52 pm DIRE STRAITS SULTANS OF SWING DIRE STRAITS
11:40 pm COUNTING CROWS SULLIVAN STREET AUGUST AND EVERYTHING AFTER
11:33 pm CROSBY, STILLS & NASH SUITE: JUDY BLUE EYES CSN
11:29 pm INXS SUICIDE BLONDE X
11:23 pm NEIL YOUNG SUGAR MOUNTAIN DECADE
11:20 pm GRATEFUL DEAD SUGAR MAGNOLIA AMERICAN BEAUTY
11:10 pm DAVID BOWIE SUFFRAGETTE CITY THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDU
11:08 pm BOB DYLAN SUBTERRANEAN HOMESICK BLUES BRINGING IT ALL BACK HOME
11:03 pm RADIOHEAD SUBTERRANEAN HOMESICK ALIEN OK COMPUTER
11:00 pm WHO SUBSTITUTE MONTEREY INTERNATIONAL POP FESTIV
10:55 pm GARBAGE STUPID GIRL GARBAGE
10:51 pm SARAH MCLACHLAN STUPID AFTERGLOW
10:43 pm ELVIS PRESLEY STUCK ON YOU ELVIS 30 #1 HITS
10:39 pm GEORGE HARRISON STUCK INSIDE A CLOUD BRAINWASHED
10:34 pm U2 STUCK IN A MOMENT YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND
10:32 pm SHERYL CROW STRONG ENOUGH TUESDAY NIGHT MUSIC CLUB
10:27 pm BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN STREETS OF PHILADELPHIA "PHILADELPHIA" SOUNDTRACK
10:24 pm ROLLING STONES STREET FIGHTING MAN BEGGARS BANQUET
10:14 pm STRAY CATS STRAY CAT STRUT BUILT FOR SPEED
10:09 pm BEN HARPER STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER "I AM SAM" MUSIC FROM AND INSPIRE
10:05 pm BEATLES STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR
10:02 pm PETE YORN STRANGE CONDITION MUSICFORTHEMORNINGAFTER
9:56 pm BUDDY GUY STRANGE BREW BLUES POWER: SONGS OF ERIC CLAPTO
9:53 pm CREAM STRANGE BREW DISRAELI GEARS
9:43 pm U2 STORIES FOR BOYS BOY
9:40 pm PRETENDERS STOP YOUR SOBBING PRETENDERS
9:36 pm STEVIE NICKS/TOM PETTY STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND BELLA DONNA.
9:35 pm ROBERT JOHNSON/ROLLING STONES STOP BREAKIN' DOWN ROLLING STONES BLUES REMIX
9:30 pm JIMI HENDRIX STONE FREE ARE YOU EXPERIENCED?
9:24 pm BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS STIR IT UP CATCH A FIRE
9:14 pm CHARLIE MUSSELWHITE STINGAREE IN MY TIME
9:11 pm LENNY KRAVITZ STILLNESS OF HEART LENNY
9:07 pm JONNY LANG STILL RAININ' WANDER THIS WORLD
9:03 pm PAUL SIMON STILL CRAZY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS STILL CRAZY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS
8:59 pm SHERYL CROW STEVE MCQUEEN C'MON, C'MON
8:55 pm JOE JACKSON STEPPIN' OUT NIGHT AND DAY
8:45 pm JAMES TAYLOR STEAMROLLER SWEET BABY JAMES
8:39 pm PETER GABRIEL STEAM US
8:36 pm BEN HARPER STEAL MY KISSES BURN TO SHINE
8:31 pm WOOD STAY YOU SONGS FROM STAMFORD HILL
8:27 pm TALKING HEADS STAY UP LATE LITTLE CREATURES
8:15 pm DAVE MATTHEWS BAND STAY (WASTING TIME) BEFORE THESE CROWDED STREETS
8:12 pm LISA LOEB STAY (I MISS YOU) LISA LOEB & NINE STORIES
8:08 pm ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND STATESBORO BLUES AT FILLMORE EAST
8:05 pm ROLLING STONES START ME UP TATTOO YOU
8:00 pm DAVID BOWIE STARMAN THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDU
7:55 pm U2 STARING AT THE SUN POP
7:44 pm JIMI HENDRIX STAR SPANGLED BANNER WOODSTOCK
7:39 pm JEWEL STANDING STILL THIS WAY
7:35 pm PRIMITIVE RADIO GODS STANDING OUTSIDE A BROKEN PHONE... ROCKET
7:29 pm THE FIXX STAND OR FALL REACT
7:18 pm LYLE LOVETT STAND BY YOUR MAN LYLE LOVETT & HIS LARGE BAND
7:13 pm STEVIE NICKS STAND BACK THE WILD HEART
7:10 pm R.E.M. STAND GREEN
7:02 pm LED ZEPPELIN STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN LED ZEPPELIN IV (UNTITLED)
6:58 pm INCUBUS DRIVE MAKE YOURSELF
6:56 pm DOORS PEOPLE ARE STRANGE STRANGE DAYS
6:44 pm LOS LONELY BOYS REAL EMOTIONS LOS LONELY BOYS
6:42 pm KINKS YOU REALLY GOT ME YOU REALLY GOT ME
cyclezealot, all of the artists in the list you posted has been played on the various stations in this area. As have most of the songs you listed. And to date none of the DJ's have been considered obnoxious, at least in my opinion. Nor have they ever been banned by anything they've said over the air.
See a community of this size, a total of about 103,000 people you tend to run into the DJ's in public quite a bit. This community is small compared to a lot of other major urban centers. These days a population of 103,000 is considered small for a community.
Plus every time there is a major public event several of the stations are there. They give away the freebie stuff of course, ask people to sign up for drawings. But also to meet and greet the public.
Right now our convention center is in the midst of it's show season. My wife & I recently went to the home show. There were at least 4 radio stations there.
Plus there are several other public events to attend in the spring and summer. There is Saturday In The Park, Rivercade & Art Splash just to name a few. At every one of these events there are at least 3 radio stations present.
As far as content goes. There is plenty of variety to go aroundl If a person does not like the music content of one radio station they simply have to change the station until they find something they do like.
Maybe in your area the content isn't as good and the DJ's are obnoxious idiot's. Here that generally is not a problem.
cyclezealot
03-03-04, 02:12 PM
NC..I am glad you are content with your available radio.
One non-independent station in San Diego plays a shortened list of my previous thread..But they rarely get into , lets call it the 'b'cuts. I find their dj's obnoxious. Also,unstable. Come today, gone tomorrow- for the next jerky headliner..
We are lucky to have one independent station in San Diego.Now, when I go to LA, I know of what I speak..Unless,I have missed a weaker powered station. The content is abysimal. These conglomerate networks particularily like to concentrate power in the biggest markets.
All I can say, there are organizations of musicians who agree with this position on the concentration of ownership of radio stations..Reason Tom Petty wrote "Last DJ."
They should know more than any of us....
Back to the topic at hand...
Yes, Clear Channel is a corporate predator, and yes, they're looking out for thier best interest, but please just be thankful they're offering to do anything at all to promote cycling on THIER stations (yes, it's THIER airwaves thanks to the Bush admin. policies). Clear Channel could just as easily say they can do what they want and screw you, what are YOU going to do about it, listening public? The general public is so brainwashed already by thier corporate monoculture and morning drive-time dreck that any pro-cycling message would be like a gift from God.
Really, what more could you ask for? (No, I don't think they are going to go off the air!).
Moonshot
03-05-04, 11:53 AM
Clear Channel amazes me!!!!!!!! On one hand they have a group of on air personalities who vilify and invite attacks on cyclists. These "people" are "suspended" and Clear Channel makes donations and PSA's. On the other hand, they ban Howard Stern because he is offensive. To me the more offensive of the two is the groups of personalities who were trying to incite assaults on cyclists.
Good point, Georgesnatcher!
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