Commuting - Guaranteed warm gloves

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westsam
09-08-08, 02:53 PM
someone please recommend some Guaranteed warm gloves. i have tried a bunch over the years and don't seem to find any that will actually keep my hands warm while riding my bike.
thanks
carbondale
09-08-08, 03:00 PM
I use Grandoe ski gloves. They have a nylon/leather exterior lined with soft polyester and 2 polyester inserts. So on the coldest day I can wear 3 layer gloves. If too warm, take out one insert or both. Nebraska winters can be cold and windy and my hands have NEVER gotten cold. And no problem with shifters or brake levers.
Not the most pleasing to the eye, but if you want warm, these will work.
Carbondale which model do you have. I did a quick search and could not find a pair that matches your description.
What works for Snowboarding for me works on the road just as well.
Burton (the snowboard company) makes the best Cold/Wet Weather Gloves I've used. Don't cheap out, you get what you pay for with gloves/mittens IME, Go for Gore-tex
girljen
09-08-08, 03:25 PM
Last winter, I used Thinsulate mittens over my Pearl Izumi cycling gloves.
climbhoser
09-08-08, 04:39 PM
Pearl Izumi Lobster Claws left my hands too warm in just about any weather.
If you have truly bad circulation problems there are some high altitude, sub-zero mitts and gloves by Outdoor Research that would do the trick. In fact, I have an extra pair if you might be interested...pm me if you are.
stevage
09-08-08, 06:08 PM
What works for Snowboarding for me works on the road just as well.
Burton (the snowboard company) makes the best Cold/Wet Weather Gloves I've used. Don't cheap out, you get what you pay for with gloves/mittens IME, Go for Gore-tex
I have these: http://www.alpineskicenter.com/Burton-Pinnacle-XCR-Glove-Mens-p-3490247.html
I tried them for riding once or twice and found them too warm. (Well, Melbourne is not the coldest city - 5C is a chilly winter's day). Now I just use the inner glove, and find it perfect.
(they are great for snowboarding though :))
Steve
Depends on what you consider cold weather. At sub zero I use pogies, with wool mittens inside. Above that Ski mittens...
Intheloonybin
09-08-08, 07:16 PM
I use Pearl Izumi lobsters below about 35-40F (even then, they are kind of warm, but my other pair are too cold). They work down to about 10F, then I add a thin pair of liners that I bought for cross country skiing. When it gets down to around 0F, I add chemical hand warmers, and that combo has taken me down to -15F.
Hope this helps!
Mittens are way better than gloves. I found that the only thing I could stand were REI windproof mitts when the mercury went down to -30 celsius.
surveyor
09-08-08, 08:00 PM
I find that dousing them in diesel fuel and then putting a match to them does the trick.
nashcommguy
09-08-08, 08:16 PM
I use Pearl Izumi lobsters below about 35-40F (even then, they are kind of warm, but my other pair are too cold). They work down to about 10F, then I add a thin pair of liners that I bought for cross country skiing. When it gets down to around 0F, I add chemical hand warmers, and that combo has taken me down to -15F.
Hope this helps!
+1 Except I use Gordini Summit 2 gloves. They're available @ http://www.campmor.com There's a mitten version, too. I'm getting them for this winter. Also, the liners I use are 100% merino wool. Get the gloves one size too large and the liners will fit perfectly. Alot of roadies I meet use th PI Lobster Claws, and swear by them, so you can't go wrong that way either.
CastIron
09-09-08, 08:08 AM
I'm not sure what it takes to have cold hands in these. $40 from Cabelas. (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0047653921909a&navCount=1&podId=0047653921909&parentId=cat601369&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat21082-cat601369_TGP&catalogCode=8IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601369&hasJS=true) Room for a liner and heat pack if you need 'em.
http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_921909_renderset_02?$main-Large$
ItsJustMe
09-09-08, 08:38 AM
It depends a lot on your body. I ride with just a cheap ($10) pair of windproof/breathable gloves from Kohls down to -20*F and have no real problem. Others seem to need lobster claws at +20*F. At that temp I might still be riding with half finger gloves.
Lobster claws are guaranteed warm. If I wore them at any temp above about 0*F my fingers would turn red from the heat though.
ItsJustMe
09-09-08, 08:39 AM
See here:
http://www.icebike.com/Clothing/handprotection.htm
Pogies seem like a good idea, honestly.
climbhoser
09-09-08, 08:44 AM
^^^^^this guy would know.
And I agree with Lobster Claws. My wife got me some and I wear them so she doesn't feel bad, but can't stand them above 0degF (they're that hot). Honestly, my preferred glove for above 0 is made my Kinco, and is about $6 in most feed stores. It's pigskin palmed with a proprietary insulation. I use them for mountaineering, backcountry skiing, and commuting.
Wife actually bought me some lighter-weight gloves, so I'll try those as the fall comes on, but I like really lightweight, fleece liners for anything above freezing.
Oh yeah, I have warm hands, tho.
ItsJustMe
09-09-08, 10:00 AM
Honestly, my preferred glove for above 0 is made my Kinco, and is about $6 in most feed stores. It's pigskin palmed with a proprietary insulation. I use them for mountaineering, backcountry skiing, and commuting.
I'll have to drop by the feed store on the way home and see if I can find some of those. Down to about 20*F I usually just use some fairly light gloves, really almost just fleece liners themselves. Below zero I have some fairly toasty gloves. I wouldn't mind finding something nice in the middle.
dynaryder
09-09-08, 10:27 AM
I can only use these at 30F or less:
http://store.pksafety.net/me34waprludr.html
Anything above that and my hands sweat too much. I can't verify the level of waterproofness because it's always been too cold for rain when I wore them. And you can't go wrong for the price.
Wow those Pogies are pretty cool, looks like they might even be too warm though... I liked the Moose Knuckle Mitts on that site too.
I-Like-To-Bike
09-09-08, 10:54 AM
someone please recommend some Guaranteed warm gloves. i have tried a bunch over the years and don't seem to find any that will actually keep my hands warm while riding my bike.
thanks
Don't lose your mittens and you won't be a cold kitten.
tjspiel
09-09-08, 11:00 AM
As someone else has mentioned, people's reaction to cold varies quite a bit so it's hard to guarantee anything. This is probably overkill:
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/tjspiel/misc/icearmourmitts.jpg
They're Ice Armour mitts. I wore them while winter camping last year at Superior National Forest in Northern MN. It was toward the end of the season so it was fairly mild. It only got down to -15 the first night. The nice thing about winter camping is that there are no bugs and no rain so you can skip the tents.
Dressing for spending a few days out in the cold is a different deal than dressing for spending 45 minutes on a bike.
In my case as long as I'm working fairly vigorously, my hands and feet won't have too much trouble keeping warm if they're dry. A pair of decent ski gloves usually works pretty well and there was a morning or two last year where the temp dropped to around -20.
While I was camping, I wore a thin pair of wool glove liners under the mitts. They were adequate on their own while we were snow shoeing. I kept the mitts clipped to my jacket. These mitts do have a zipper which I assumed was for ventilation if it got too warm. Maybe it was for a chemical warmer though.
One helpful tip I got from the winter biking forum really helped keep my hands warm during snowball fights with the kids. That is if you keep your wrists warm, the circulation in your hands will be better. Typically during a snowball fight I'd end up with snow packed between my gloves and wrists. Once I learned to keep the snow out of there, my snowball packing and aim improved dramatically since my fingers wouldn't go numb as quickly.
Oh, that tip has helped on the bike as well. Keep your wrists covered.
J B Bell
09-09-08, 11:26 AM
Hm, how do you guys shift? It's just occurring to me now that my fancy trigger-shifters may not be so great on the cold days . . .
CastIron
09-09-08, 11:33 AM
It's never been a problem for me, but dexterity certainly suffers. I keep contemplating going back to GripShift.
carbondale
09-09-08, 02:26 PM
I can't find my model anywhere either, but quite similar to these:
http://www.onlygloves.com/winter-gloves/mens/grandoemensprimoelitegloves.cfm
dwr1961
09-09-08, 02:49 PM
This is a great thread...
I ride all winter, and although I live in Idaho's "banana belt" it can still get down to zero on the coldest mornings. Even with ski goves my fingers get cold. I've tried Craft lobsters with liners - they weren't warm enough either.
Gonna try the gloves Carbondale recommends... They've got nasty weather in NE, so I figure he's gotta be on to something!
I have some burton ski mittens that I tried to wear on the bike and my hands were roasting each time. I'm not sure how cold it would have to be for them to work, but the teens that it reaches here certainly isn't cold enough.
ItsJustMe
09-09-08, 03:04 PM
Hm, how do you guys shift? It's just occurring to me now that my fancy trigger-shifters may not be so great on the cold days . . .
Grip shift. No problem in even the heaviest mittens.
dynaryder
09-10-08, 07:36 AM
Hm, how do you guys shift? It's just occurring to me now that my fancy trigger-shifters may not be so great on the cold days . . .
SRAM triggers. Unlike Shimanos,they use two thumb levers. Easy to use even with thick gloves or mittens,and in heavy traffic you can keep a finger or two on your brake levers and still shift normally.
climbhoser
09-10-08, 07:58 AM
Hm, how do you guys shift? It's just occurring to me now that my fancy trigger-shifters may not be so great on the cold days . . .
Grip shift. No problem in even the heaviest mittens.
I'm trying Gripshift right now. It's just ok, I don't like it much, but I'm way more of a friction shifting kinda guy.
That said, I think I'll move back towards bar-end shifters and/or Falcon friction thumbies ($10 a pair!!!).
I don't care if you have a block of concrete over your hand, Falcon Friction Thumbies are easy.
pinkrobe
09-10-08, 08:26 AM
There's huge variation in how cold your hands can get, so you really have to just keep trying things. I bought a pair of the PI lobster gloves a while back, and they were the next best thing to useless past -3C. I have been using the MEC Nanu gloves [get it? "Nanu-nanu!"]. They are good by themselves to about -20C, but quite warm when you get up to the freezing mark. I use fleece-lined pogies for anything around -20C or colder. They are the cat's ass in terms of keeping your hands warm and dry.
ncscott
09-10-08, 04:45 PM
http://www.bdel.com/gear/element.php
I"ll chime in. These are some serious gloves for 40 dollars. The fleece liner was too warm for most the winter so I just used the shell and poly glove liners.
Scott
Lamplight
09-10-08, 05:23 PM
They are the cat's ass
:lol:
I think I'm going to get some better gloves this winter. It doesn't get terribly cold here compared to a lot of the places you guys live, and even the coldest weather here doesn't bother me much, but my hands get colder than anything. After that it's my feet and face.
climbhoser
09-10-08, 08:10 PM
ItsJustMe and others:
http://www.supercasuals.com/Kinco/Kinco_1927KW.cfm
IJM, you know the UP....well, living there I ONLY used the Kincos, and if you're like me and have hot hands then they'll do fine. I taught ski lessons at Marquette Mountain, and even down to -20degF these did the trick for me. Past that if I put in a thin liner I could go beyond ;)
Blowing the drive, hauling hay for the barn, riding my bike in the snow (3mi. downhill to work, oh yeah) these puppies did it all.
I've used them for years mountaineering, backcountry skiing throughout the Rockies, the Cascades and the Sierra.
When they fall apart you don't feel bad because they're cheap...but they'll last 2 years of HEAVY use.
What I like most about 'em is I can still manipulate things with my fingers. I can actually un-zip a coat without removing gloves! Amazing. Like I said, check out your feed store or look online. Model 1927KW or, if you like the gauntlet style, the plain jane 1927.
ItsJustMe
09-11-08, 06:51 AM
ItsJustMe and others:
http://www.supercasuals.com/Kinco/Kinco_1927KW.cfm
Wow, thanks. If they're that good, I'll buy a pair for sure, and if I have to get them online, I'll just go ahead and get 3 or 4.
climbhoser
09-11-08, 07:38 AM
Wow, thanks. If they're that good, I'll buy a pair for sure, and if I have to get them online, I'll just go ahead and get 3 or 4.
Yeah, and check around for a good price, too. I was able to get them at the feed in Marquette for $5 even.
lil brown bat
09-11-08, 07:44 AM
If you haven't found gloves that can keep your hands warm, your issue might be one of poor circulation and/or failure to keep your core warm rather than inadequate gloves. Basically, your body's thermoregulation systems will decrease circulation to the extremities if the core feels chilled, in order to conserve heat. Less circulation means less warming for hands and feet, so if you want your hands and feet to be warm, the first step is to make sure that the core stays warm.
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