Foo - Hadron Collider goes hot tomorrow...

So will we still be here after tomorrow or will we be sucked in to the black hole that it creates? ;)
The geek in me has kind of been following this and I'm actually excited to see what happens. Anyone else?

farewell, cruel world!

So will we still be here after tomorrow or will we be sucked in to the black hole that it creates? ;)
The geek in me has kind of been following this and I'm actually excited to see what happens. Anyone else?

Me too... I'm guessing, though, that it will be a bit anti-climactic. Or we'll all be blinked out of existence. One of the two. :D

At least in most of the sci-fi, they usually play with this stuff out near the orbit of Jupiter.

Well, if they can make it, it will be a sub-atomic size black hole with the gravitational pull of a sub-atomic particle, and I think it is supposed to last pico seconds.

^^^^ exactly. It's not the stereotypical black hole that you're thinking of. It's a subatomic black hole with the mass of two quantum particles. The event horizon on these things is probably on the order of angstroms and the lifetime is likewise very short since the energy will radiate away almost instantaneously.

Well, if they can make it, it will be a sub-atomic size black hole with the gravitational pull of a sub-atomic particle, and I think it is supposed to last pico seconds.If the Katamari Damacy Principle holds, it will suck in sub-atomic particles until it grows large enough to suck in full atoms, then molecules, then microscopic organisms, then chewing gum, mah-jongg pieces, kittens, people, merry-go-rounds, houses, billboards, mountains, and finally the continents themselves!

I think the whole doomsday black hole theory is completely absurd, one of the biggest points that made me realize it's absurd was that pulsars still exist and don't collapse into black holes. =\ (the gist of what a physicist said on this)

Oh well.

However what I'm excited about is possible mono-poles, and the fact that apparently the particle has the same amount of energy behind it as a nuclear aircraft carrier doing 60km/h.

If the Katamari Damacy Principle holds, it will suck in sub-atomic particles until it grows large enough to suck in full atoms, then molecules, then microscopic organisms, then chewing gum, mah-jongg pieces, kittens, people, merry-go-rounds, houses, billboards, mountains, and finally the continents themselves!

So it'll be like Cartman's Trapper Keeper?

I have a lot of really bad things to do between now and tomorrow. Peace out. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Ep_413_cartmanakira.gif

Well, not to wax political, but what will likely happen is they will discover something truly amazing about the early universe, but the explanation will require more than two seconds of concentration to absorb and won't fit in to a soundbite. Then some dumbass politician will say it's wrong because the earth was created by magic a few millenniums ago, and stupid humanity will go back to wondering what Paris Hilton is up to.

Actually I don't think they're creating the 'big bang' tomorrow. I believe they begin testing it tomorrow. They'll start by sending protons in one direction around the machine. When they conclude those tests then they'll send protons in the opposite direction to insure the machine will work in both directions. Then eventually they'll do both directions at the same time to create the tests.

On a related note, I posted ted.com several days ago. Here is an excellent video of a speech by one of the people that will be doing research there.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/brian_cox_on_cern_s_supercollider.html (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/brian_cox_on_cern_s_supercollider.html)

That site is so awesome.

However what I'm excited about is possible mono-poles, and the fact that apparently the particle has the same amount of energy behind it as a nuclear aircraft carrier doing 60km/h.

Yes, it's absurd in the extreme.

Mono-poles? As in, magnetic monopoles? Yes, that would be nice... We can't do FEM analysis in Electromagnetics without considering the effects of these buggers, even though we think they don't actually exist.

Yes, it's absurd in the extreme.

Mono-poles? As in, magnetic monopoles? Yes, that would be nice... We can't do FEM analysis in Electromagnetics without considering the effects of these buggers, even though we think they don't actually exist.

Well apparently monopoles do fit in current theories, actually they require them, they should exist, but we haven't seen them.

So it becomes a big yippee day when we can reproduce them.

Well, not to wax political, but what will likely happen is they will discover something truly amazing about the early universe, but the explanation will require more than two seconds of concentration to absorb and won't fit in to a soundbite. Then some dumbass politician will say it's wrong because the earth was created by magic a few millenniums ago, and stupid humanity will go back to wondering what Paris Hilton is up to.

That calls for an encore. :D

NSFW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&feature=related

That calls for an encore. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&feature=related

I imagine that's what you listen to when operating on someone.

I imagine that's what you listen to when operating on someone.

Nope... My last case was Jack Johnson's "In Between Dreams." But it varies. ;)

That calls for an encore. :D

NSFW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&feature=relatedI was a little afraid that song was for real until they got to slavery.

In that case, I'm not pooper scooping after my dog Sam.

I was thinking maybe something would happen like in Half-life and all of the folks at CERN would turn into chicken headed creatures or something.

That calls for an encore. :D

NSFW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&feature=related

I just now realized- I think the style of the music in this song
is supposed to sound like 'Danger Zone' from Top Gun

Is there any chance we can get them to move the matter collision test up a few weeks? I'd rather they create this Nine Billion Names of God Black Hole before the Mets suffer another Epic September Collapse.

test. Is the internets still here?

test. Is the internets still here?

For now.....Although we could go at any time today.

Crap. I still need to write my will. Oh wait. There won't be anybody left to carry out my will..


DUH-OH.

For now.....Although we could go at any time today.






Hmmm....maybe I should be paying a visit to that attractive lady down the hall. :innocent:

You guys are getting worked up over nothing. You have a month to get your bucket list done. They dont start colliding particles until October.

I read the resulting collisions will produce heat that's 100000x hotter than the sun. That's hot!

Heres a video to help explain it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

^^^^ exactly. It's not the stereotypical black hole that you're thinking of. It's a subatomic black hole with the mass of two quantum particles. The event horizon on these things is probably on the order of angstroms and the lifetime is likewise very short since the energy will radiate away almost instantaneously.
unless of course someone put the decimal in the wrong spot.

"Ok! Ok! I must have, I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place
or something. ****. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane
detail."

unless of course someone put the decimal in the wrong spot.

"Ok! Ok! I must have, I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place
or something. ****. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane
detail."

:roflmao2:

I want to hitch a lasso around one of those particles (might have to use some fishing line) and ride that sucker around the circle.

so, will it create an audible noise when the streams go boom?

Well apparently monopoles do fit in current theories, actually they require them, they should exist, but we haven't seen them.

So it becomes a big yippee day when we can reproduce them.

My point exactly. It's impossible to do finite element analysis in electromagnetics without including the effects of magnetic monopoles, even though we have never seen them. Mathematically, they exist and are everywhere. :)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/eric.hidle/SMfMn0yauVI/AAAAAAAAE8Q/dp0M4bLaZTI/maxwells.JPG

Well, the first test ran today, and I guess we all still exist.... Dammit. Now I have to work again. :notamused:

"Yeah boss, I can't come in to work day. Right...well the LHC is going online, yeah, gotta complete my will and hang out with family, just in case. Drugs? No, why do you ask?"

Well, the first test ran today, and I guess we all still exist.... Dammit. Now I have to work again. :notamused:

Don't get too comfy. They're running initial testing. They won't be attempting the Home Edition of the Black Hole Game until about a month from now.

To quote the late great Arthur C. Clarke (from his classic short story the Nine Billion Names of God):


>>"Look," whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven. (There is always a last time for everything.)

Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out.<<

"Yeah boss, I can't come in to work day. Right...well the LHC is going online, yeah, gotta complete my will and hang out with family, just in case. Drugs? No, why do you ask?"

Will? Who are you leaving **** to? What can you leave?

test. Is the internets still here?

Whoops! That last figure should have been to the power of x, not minus x...there, fixed it. Looks like...oh...um, this actually couldn't be worse. The world will survive, but the internet will be destroyed.


Anyway, someone should go a head and point out that particle collisions more intense than what the LHC is capable of occur all over the earth naturally about 150 million times per second and have been doing so for the last few billion years.

Hmmm...it would actually seem that the earth was already destroyed as a precautionary measure to keep it from being destroyed, at least according to the International Earth-Destruction Advisory Board, which is a very reputable authority:

http://qntm.org/?board

It might be a positive thing, if you've ever seen The Quiet Earth:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2847067487_e48990e23f.jpg?v=0


Or not so:

Silver Surfer to Earth:
"all you know is at an end"

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2847065225_d2a53fa4a0.jpg?v=0

***NWS
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