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texraid
09-25-08, 07:27 PM
How many of you only ride old steel? Am I an anachronism?
Steel is real. I still ride my 1979 Centurion, and my MTB is steel. If you like riding it, ride it and - Enjoy the ride.
Digital Gee
09-25-08, 07:54 PM
I ride steel every morning when I commute on my Orange Crush.
byte_speed
09-25-08, 08:12 PM
How many of you only ride old steel? Am I an anachronism?
Yes you are an anachronism, as are most of us here. But steel bikes are cool. I have an old steel bike ('92), but I ride my Litespeed most.
Welcome. Take your shoes off and set a spell.
big john
09-25-08, 08:21 PM
Plenty of old steel riders here. I ride new steel myself.
All my bikes (7) except one (aluminum) are steel. I never ride the aluminum bike, as I prefer the feel of steel.
texraid
09-25-08, 08:49 PM
Well, I knew I had anachronistic tendencies when I took my '73 Competition in to a local shop for a tuneup and owner said "You're not going to ride that are you"? "Sure that's what it was made for, what would you do with it"?......He said I'd hang it on my wall. This is a shop that has a $10,000 Orbea sitting on the floor.
Fortunately both the owner and service manager appreciate old steel and my old Raleigh was the Belle of the Ball.
Glad to know I'm not the only old fart who loves riding these old bikes.
Well, I knew I had anachronistic tendencies when I took my '73 Competition in to a local shop for a tuneup and owner said "You're not going to ride that are you"? "Sure that's what it was made for, what would you do with it"?......He said I'd hang it on my wall. This is a shop that has a $10,000 Orbea sitting on the floor.
Fortunately both the owner and service manager appreciate old steel and my old Raleigh was the Belle of the Ball.
Glad to know I'm not the only old fart who loves riding these old bikes.
Welcome. You're in the right place.
If you haven't already, check out the BF Classic & Vintage forums for even more of that warm and fuzzy feeling.:)
lhbernhardt
09-26-08, 01:12 AM
I have been winding down my racing career this year, so I have put 0 km on my carbon fiber Trek, I haven't ridden my aluminum Dolan track bike since Spring, and I've been doing all my riding on a steel Benotto Modelo 2700 track bike (set up as a fixie with brakes) that I purchased in 1989 at the Benotto factory in Mexico City, near the Xola metro station when I was racing down there. I've also been riding the steel Kuwahara tandem until we had the crash which has rendered my stoker hors du combat for the next little while...
What's paradoxical is that in order to be satisfied with riding a steel-frame bike, you have to own a carbon fiber bike as well (which doesn't need to be ridden). If you have the steel bike but not the carbon fiber bike, you will be unhappy riding the steel frame because you will be constantly lusting after a bike made of carbon fiber. I think the Buddhists have understood this for centuries. I think the satisfaction of riding the steel-framed fixie is partly due to having the knowledge that I can ride a full carbon race bike with 10-speed cassette if I wanted to. Maybe once you have all the material stuff you've ever wanted, you can finally forego them all to attain Nirvana?
The one concession I do make to carbon on my steel fixie is the forks, which are Reynolds Ouzo Pro with carbon steerer (1"). They used to be on the tandem until I got actual tandem-rated Wound-Up forks for it (carbon with steel 1" steerer). The Reyonolds forks are not tandem-rated, and they did flex a bit on hard stops, but they are stong enough for a 320-lb team. On the fixie, they completely outperform the steel forks that came with the frame in terms of comfort, accuracy (absolutely no problem riding no-hands at low speeds) and "responsiveness."
Steel frames are great because they last forever - you can keep repairing them. Large diameter aluminum is way too stiff for bikes (they're great on the track, but note that all top-end alu road bikes have carbon forks and stays. Do you suppose there's a reason? Plus Alu has this nasty habit of becoming extremely brittle when it gets bent. Ti is highly overrated and overpriced. I have broken every Ti frame I have ever owned. And carbon is probably the ideal frame material, but it's hard to tell when it's going to break, and it often doesn't fail gracefully. However, it will withstand way more flex cycles than steel.
L.
Jet Travis
09-26-08, 03:33 AM
What's paradoxical is that in order to be satisfied with riding a steel-frame bike, you have to own a carbon fiber bike as well (which doesn't need to be ridden). If you have the steel bike but not the carbon fiber bike, you will be unhappy riding the steel frame because you will be constantly lusting after a bike made of carbon fiber. I think the Buddhists have understood this for centuries. I think the satisfaction of riding the steel-framed fixie is partly due to having the knowledge that I can ride a full carbon race bike with 10-speed cassette if I wanted to. Maybe once you have all the material stuff you've ever wanted, you can finally forego them all to attain Nirvana?
Lot of insight here.
In my own case, I rode a steel bike in blissful ignorance for many years. Then I started going to message boards and club rides. And the bike lust began. In this century, I have acquired an aluminum bike, a titanium bike, a folding bike, a classic three-speed Raleigh from the 60s, an Italian-built Bianchi frame, and, most recently, a fixed gear bike.
Now, after various adventures and misadventures, I'm starting to simplify my bike life. I've given away the Raleigh. I put the fixie up for sale on Craigslist. When I get around to it, I'll sell the Bianchi (too small) and might even dispense with the folder.
Quite simply, N+1 has lost its appeal for me. I've been around the block a few times, made a few stops. Now I just want to pedal home on one of my old steel bikes.
I'd also be happy to ride home on the titanium bike. Or the aluminum bike. And maybe on the way, I'll make a detour to the LBS. I hear they've got some new carbon fiber frames in stock. I mean, it doesn't hurt to look, right?
maddmaxx
09-26-08, 04:24 AM
I'm an anachronism. I love my aluminium bikes!
My dentist is happy. He loves my aluminium bikes.
Billy Bones
09-26-08, 04:38 AM
My beater (early 90s TREK 930) is probably my most-used mount. We might should view such things not as out of their time but like us, good things that last.
cranky old dude
09-26-08, 06:16 AM
I love my steel and almost all my rides are steel, but I also enjoy the crisp
handling of my aluminum bikes. Of course of the lowly 2000 miles I've rode
this year, only 75 were on aluminum.
BluesDawg
09-26-08, 06:37 AM
My lugged steel bikes:
'92 Bridgestone RB-1
'92 Trek 970
'80 Fuji S12-S
My only beer can bike is my '08 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp. Not steel, but real fun.
GeraldChan
09-26-08, 07:05 AM
Great post Ihbernhart!
I bought a plastic bike for my 50th birthday and having used it for a year. I am finally getting to like it.
Compared to a steel frame, CF feels "dead" or unresponsive. However, a properly designed CF bike will out perform any classic steel bike by any objective measure.
Since most of us are not paid to race bikes but rather we ride for pleasure; a steel framed bike may be the better choice. The road feedback from a cro/moly frame tells me exactly how much traction I have (esp in a fast turn). A steel frame on 32 or 36 spoke tubular wheels with Veloflex Criterium or Vittoria Corsa Seta tires is the ultimate in responsiveness and tactile feedback. ( I run both clinchers and tubular wheelsets on all 3 of my steel bikes, with equivalent tires, so I know what I am talking about.)
I LOVE my steel bikes!
BSLeVan
09-26-08, 07:18 AM
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Road Fan
09-26-08, 10:47 AM
How many of you only ride old steel? Am I an anachronism?
I ride steel and only own steel. Not counting Mrs. Road Fan's two aluminum bikes, tho!
Yes you are an anachronism, but you're safe here.
Road Fan
Little Darwin
09-26-08, 12:11 PM
I have many bikes, mostly steel, and a few aluminum.
The steel ones get most of my miles.
Some of my steel is nice steel, some of it is heavy... but it is all fun to ride.
stapfam
09-26-08, 12:24 PM
For me- Steel is heavy and a bit flexible. But then I enjoy riding aluminium.
Saying that- I have a Kona Explosif that does give a comfortable ride. But the Bianchi aluminium does ride better.
oilman_15106
09-26-08, 12:29 PM
It has to be old to be a great steel ride? http://www.waterfordbikes.com/site/company/parahistory.php
BlazingPedals
09-26-08, 01:14 PM
I have steel, aluminum, and carbon. I've tried Ti and didn't like it; otherwise I might have one of those too.
TromboneAl
09-26-08, 02:10 PM
I don't think I've ever been on a bike that isn't steel.
roccobike
09-26-08, 02:43 PM
I think you should ask this question over in C&V. There's an entire forum of "anachronisms", quite popular too.
As for me, for road bikes, my new ride is carbon, my old ride is aluminum, but my back-up remains a steel Bianchi that I've upgraded to 7 speed brifters. I'm building up a 54cm, 89 Centurion, Dave Scott, Ironman with Tange 1 tubing as a 16 speed. The frame will be original paint, fork, headset and Shimano 600 crank. Everything else will be upgrades to include Shimano 600 brifters. I'm also upgrading a 86 Fuji Team from a downtube, friction shifting 12 speed to a 14 speed brifter bike. It will be interesting to see which bike becomes my main ride.
I ride an old steel Clark Kent custom & have no plans to replace it so long as it is rideable.
velonomad
09-26-08, 04:54 PM
My stable is all steel ( most of the frames I made). However I find nothing wrong with Aluminum ,Ti or Carbon.
cyclinfool
09-26-08, 06:00 PM
My MTB is an aluminum Gary Fischer hard tail with a front shock - it is my commuter. My sprinter/climber is a Carbon Fiber Specialized Tarmac Expert but my real love and the bike I ride if I am going distance is my steel Somoncini - classic lugged Columbus SLX tubing. I just put a whole new Chorus group on the Simoncini, it is approximately 14 years old - that should tell you something.
If I hade to sell bikes I would ditch the Tarmac first - I just bought it last year.
Interesting...I came to cycling rather late, having spent a lot of years running (no, I didn't switch because my knees gave out..). I own four bikes now, all aluminum frames and I'm happy with all of them.
unterhausen
09-26-08, 08:04 PM
I bought my newest bike in '85, so they're all steel. I pretty much got over my desire for anything other than steel when I went through 3 teledyne titan Ti frames back in the '70s. Light weight is nice, but not really all that essential.
I ride old ('86 Univega) and new ('07 LeMond) steel. If I ever get another bike it will be steel. I'm sold.
BengeBoy
09-26-08, 10:48 PM
The Davidson in my signature line is Titanium. The rest are steel.
N+1 will be steel.
N+2 might be carbon fiber.
Tom Bombadil
09-27-08, 12:08 AM
I put the fixie up for sale on Craigslist.
The Redline 925 is already up for sale?
There must be a story to tell.
big john
09-27-08, 07:31 AM
I bought my newest bike in '85, so they're all steel. I pretty much got over my desire for anything other than steel when I went through 3 teledyne titan Ti frames back in the '70s. Light weight is nice, but not really all that essential.
Teledyne Titan, there's a name you don't hear often. I know a guy who still has one that hasn't broken, most of them did. Commercially pure titanium is not a viable material for bike frames, as you found out.
Pete Penseyeres used them in RAAM one year. He said whenever the topic came up, everyone would ask "Where did yours break?"
Steel all the way. Almost all my adult bikes are bought used. When I started commuting in 1992, I got a beater because I live in a city with high bike theft, although less now apparently, with Igor out of the business. After wearing out my first $80 purchase in my first year of commuting, I rode a used Panasonic sport tour bike for about 12 years and then "upgraded" by buying a 20 year old Trek tour bike. I've also had a couple of old steel mountain bikes over the same period. Last year I bought a new Bike Friday, but of course it is steel as well.
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