Great Lakes - the Cubs

Alfonso Soriano - will he ever swing at an actual ball in the strike zone?

Mr. Lee = King of the double play.

Dempster - blah blah blah. one year of success as a starter means blah blah blah in my mind.

Panic = No. i am not 100 years old and remembering the good old days. they did exist right?

however, since i can remember i was a fan. i let it go a bit in the last couple years as i found other things to do. uh, riding my bike with the BFNIC (plug and play to keep the post in our section :) )

this is my team since i can remember. i was a little kid at the Peoria Civic Center getting Mark Grace's autograph. i got Ty Griffin's autograph at a Peoria Chiefs game. Dunston and the rocket arm. Jodie, Jodie Davis.......the Sarge..........the Penguin.......Sutcliffe.......you get the idea........i am 34 years old :D.

later.

I'm 48. This is so far and away the best Cubs team of my life it's not even a contest and that includes '69. They may win it all or not. But it's a real franchise now. No more being run as a promotional tool for newspapers or gum. The best days are ahead.

If the Cubbies don't advance, I hope Dempster is a goner. He walked 7 and of course gave up the grand slam. If he's back next year, i think he'll be back as a relief pitcher.

The Cubs suck. End of story.


GO BREWERS!

(... and that goes for the Bears too. I know, because I heard it in a song!) http://emoticons4u.com/happy/1277.gif

what was up with the crowd last nite? pretty weak sauce in my mind. not that it would have made a difference, but come on get up off your arse on those 0-2 counts.

Go Cubbies.

later.

Go Sox!

Go Chicago.

I am a fan of both, yeah yeah, i know, i know, but last nights crowd probably got paid by Bartman to pull such a graveyard feeling, wow, corporate *******s.

Anyway, if the cubs don't win, the sox will do it today, yay!

1:30PM!

If the Cubbies don't advance, I hope Dempster is a goner. He walked 7 and of course gave up the grand slam. If he's back next year, i think he'll be back as a relief pitcher.

Dempster was 17-6 with a 2.96 ERA this year. I'm NOT a Cubs fans, but that is a fantastic year (better than a lot of club's aces!). Sure he struggled in yesterday's game, but if you really don't want a guy who gave up only 14 homers all year, threw over 200 innings, etc., send him up here. Milwaukee will take him in a heartbeat.

Both teams started out wrong, hopefully we can recoup again.

Dempster was 17-6 with a 2.96 ERA this year. I'm NOT a Cubs fans, but that is a fantastic year (better than a lot of club's aces!). Sure he struggled in yesterday's game, but if you really don't want a guy who gave up only 14 homers all year, threw over 200 innings, etc., send him up here. Milwaukee will take him in a heartbeat.


we can keep him if the price is right. i just think he was the wrong choice. in fact, Lou made serveral odd choices yesterday. Fuk starting and batting 2nd? leaving Dempster in their when he clearly didnt have it. anyway, hindsight is 20/20. today is a new day and i am taking two steps back away from the ledge.

only two though. ;)

later.

I'm 48. This is so far and away the best Cubs team of my life it's not even a contest and that includes '69. They may win it all or not. But it's a real franchise now. No more being run as a promotional tool for newspapers or gum. The best days are ahead.

Well I am 47 and the 1984 Cubs was a better team in my opinion. Sarge Mathews Bobby Dernier, Sandburg, Ronnie Cey,Larry Bowa, Jody Davis,Keith Moreland, Leon Durham and a better pitching staff- Dennis Eckersly, Rick Sutcliff Steve Trout Lee Smith just to name the few that I can remember. I still feel the pain of the Garvey homerun and the ball going through Durhams legs in game 5. I have been a very cautious optimist until they went up 3-1 against the Marlins and then it happened again! Win or lose today, it can only end in breaking Cubs fans hearts again. I wish it were different but the grand slam last night reiterated that I am just a loser Cub fan.

Kenal0

All I can say is that I've been a Sox fan my entire life, and I'm sorry you people had to witness that poor excuse for baseball yesterday.

My apologies.

Who are the Cubs? :)

A true fan will say this: happy anniversary!

All I can say is that I've been a Sox fan my entire life, and I'm sorry you people had to witness that poor excuse for baseball yesterday.

My apologies.

Only to be outdone by the Sox Awe uninspiring performance today.

Kenal0

Here you go, aham. The greatest sports song ever written (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xBxZGQ1dJk).


Man, two years since the Cards have won a World Championship. How can my poor heart handle it? ;)

Who are the Cubs? :)


Completely
Useless
Before
Season


Completely
Useless
By
September

Worst team of the century

Should i say:
Choke,Choke,Choke
Thank you Ryan Dumpster

let's hope i am wrong but what has happen from the past i just don't have faith in this team.
and don't let Mayor two face Daley fool you he's not a Cubs fan or Sox fan, he's only a fan of the all mighty corrupt dollar.

Completely
Useless
Before
Season


Completely
Useless
By
September

Worst team of the century

Should i say:
Choke,Choke,Choke
Thank you Ryan Dumpster

let's hope i am wrong but what has happen from the past i just don't have faith in this team.
and don't let Mayor two face Daley fool you he's not a Cubs fan or Sox fan, he's only a fan of the all mighty corrupt dollar.

the past has nothing to do with this team. unless, i missed Dempster and Lee's names on the 1908 roster. :p

later.

Well I am 47 and the 1984 Cubs was a better team in my opinion. Sarge Mathews Bobby Dernier, Sandburg, Ronnie Cey,Larry Bowa, Jody Davis,Keith Moreland, Leon Durham and a better pitching staff- Dennis Eckersly, Rick Sutcliff Steve Trout Lee Smith just to name the few that I can remember. I still feel the pain of the Garvey homerun and the ball going through Durhams legs in game 5. I have been a very cautious optimist until they went up 3-1 against the Marlins and then it happened again! Win or lose today, it can only end in breaking Cubs fans hearts again. I wish it were different but the grand slam last night reiterated that I am just a loser Cub fan.

Kenal0

I remember that team very fondly of course. But like so much in life the memory is sweeter than the reality. This year's Cubs are superior to '84 at just about every position. Soriano vs. Matthews? Ramirez vs. Cey? Bowa hit .223 with no homers and something like 15 RBI and at that age his fielding range wasn't even that great; compare with Theriot. Dernier had some speed but I think he barely drove in 30 runs. Soto is a better hitter and catcher than Davis. Even Sandberg: people forget that he was still a young player; his stats in '84 were not that much better than DeRosa's this year. Wood can't equal Lee Smith and this team lacks a dominant ace like Sutcliffe. But this year's bullpen is way deeper and I think that goes for the entire staff. I mean, '84 was a good ballclub and bonafide division winner. But this team, at least through the regular season, has been a title contender with no glaring weakness. Which the '84 team just wasn't.

Oh how I miss Sweet Lou here in Mariner land. Wish we still had him although he didn't handle young pitchers too well sometimes. He sure made baseball fun

Brewers are 3 and done i think. Go Cubs!

I remember that team very fondly of course. But like so much in life the memory is sweeter than the reality. This year's Cubs are superior to '84 at just about every position. Soriano vs. Matthews? Ramirez vs. Cey? Bowa hit .223 with no homers and something like 15 RBI and at that age his fielding range wasn't even that great; compare with Theriot. Dernier had some speed but I think he barely drove in 30 runs. Soto is a better hitter and catcher than Davis. Even Sandberg: people forget that he was still a young player; his stats in '84 were not that much better than DeRosa's this year. Wood can't equal Lee Smith and this team lacks a dominant ace like Sutcliffe. But this year's bullpen is way deeper and I think that goes for the entire staff. I mean, '84 was a good ballclub and bonafide division winner. But this team, at least through the regular season, has been a title contender with no glaring weakness. Which the '84 team just wasn't.
Quite possibly on paper but they did not play like it tonight. At least that 84 team gave us some hope before breaking hearts. I guess I am getting jaded. I just do not care. Regular season ticket prices through the roof. No day baseball at Wrigley during the playoffs. Hopefully it warms a bit and the sun comes out so I can ride my bike.

Kenal0

They're suckin ass right now. Still trying to figure out why I am watching this....

They're suckin ass right now. Still trying to figure out why I am watching this....


train wreck of monumental proportion. later.

i just threw up. not a little bit in my mouth, but a lot all over my computer.

back from commercial, the crowd is as loud as it has been all night.........

We've got to hold on ready or not

You live for the fight when it's all that you've got.

We're half way there - Livin' on a prayer

AND that foriegn dude is coming up to bat. hey LOU he sucks arse and has for months.

later.

I just switched back. Nasty.

Goodnight.

we suck, no doubt about it.

see ya'll next year!

My far fetched dream of the Brewers wiping out both the Cubs and the Whie Sox in the same post season is dangling by a thread over a precipice of despair.

That was one of the most weird and brutally played games I have ever seen. It's one thing to get beat like the CWS's did, it's another thing to get beat like the Cubs did. I laughed my arse of in sadness and amazement at that second inning. Talk about a team tight and "deer in the headlights" look. Yikes.

I turned the tv off in the 8th and listened to it on radio til the end. The only player who did his job last night was Zambrano. The rest of the team sucked major arse. As for Fukudome, he's done in the majors as Lou said last night after the horrible loss. Lou should outright release him now. Think the Cubs are finished tomorrow night. Same may go for the Sox i'm afraid come Sunday evening.

the Cubs................are dead to me.

later.

:(:(:(

the Cubs................are dead to me.

later.

Look at the bright side...at least the Brewers are still in it :thumb:

the Cubs................are dead to me.

later.

That is what I said in 1984 but they sucked me back in 2003. This was disappointing but not heartbreaking.
They were done as soon as Loney hit the grand slam.

Kenal0

Cubs...3 and done
Brewers...4 and done
Sox...? (will find out shortly)

Well, I am a Brewer fan. The Brewers along with the Cubs are eliminated now. the White Sox beat the Rays 5-3 this Sunday afternoon. So will see what happens tomorrow with the Sox and Rays.

-John L.

:(

Don't worry all you flubs fans, there's always next year. I'm just glad the Sox won at least one game. It doesnt matter from here on out, the Sox still went further in the playoffs with a weaker team then the Cubs did with probably the best team in baseball. There IS joy in Mudville tonight.

Now, now. Lay off the Cubs. I believe the saying is "Any team can have a bad century"

Sox done in 4...now we can focus on watching the bears and the dreadful 'race to the chase' nascrap.

I'm distressed and sort of amazed by the despondence of the Cubs fans in Chicago. I'm an unusual Cubs fan - lifelong Milwaukeean who became baseball-aware during the couple of years between the Braves and Brewers in Milwaukee. The Cubs were the nearest team and WGN radio comes in loud and clear up in Wisconsin. That was '69 and the Banks-Santo-Williams era. There are more people than anyone realizes in Milwaukee who are around my age and Cubs fans because of those teams and the lack of baseball at the time in Beertown. When the Brewers arrived I became a fan of them too, and rooting for both was easy until the idiotic move of the Brewers to the NL, which rumors say may be undone before long and let's hope the rumors are true. Anyway...

The Cubs have just a fantastic amount of talent right now. They have all the makings of a turnaround franchise. But the players obviously have tightened up in the playoffs the last two years, and the fatalistic attitude of the fans in Chicago isn't helping. There needs to be a culture change in Wrigleyville, and while it needs to start with the team (as Piniella well understands), the people in the stands have to help out. I was at both Brewers playoff games this weekend; pedaled there on the bike and got into the games buying extras off tailgaters. What an atmosphere. Even in the final inning of the final loss the fans cheered their hearts out the last inning as a tribute to the season if nothing else. Everyone makes a big deal out of the Cubs' fan support, but the fact is, the quality doesn't match the quantity. It's a loser mentality and it's killing the ballclub. Yeah, there's been a lot of heartbreak. But past is past. When Cubs fans say "the Cubs are dead to me" after such an incredible season, and with such promise still on the roster, it's explanation enough for why the losing continues.

I'm distressed and sort of amazed by the despondence of the Cubs fans in Chicago. I'm an unusual Cubs fan - lifelong Milwaukeean who became baseball-aware during the couple of years between the Braves and Brewers in Milwaukee. The Cubs were the nearest team and WGN radio comes in loud and clear up in Wisconsin. That was '69 and the Banks-Santo-Williams era. There are more people than anyone realizes in Milwaukee who are around my age and Cubs fans because of those teams and the lack of baseball at the time in Beertown. When the Brewers arrived I became a fan of them too, and rooting for both was easy until the idiotic move of the Brewers to the NL, which rumors say may be undone before long and let's hope the rumors are true. Anyway...

The Cubs have just a fantastic amount of talent right now. They have all the makings of a turnaround franchise. But the players obviously have tightened up in the playoffs the last two years, and the fatalistic attitude of the fans in Chicago isn't helping. There needs to be a culture change in Wrigleyville, and while it needs to start with the team (as Piniella well understands), the people in the stands have to help out. I was at both Brewers playoff games this weekend; pedaled there on the bike and got into the games buying extras off tailgaters. What an atmosphere. Even in the final inning of the final loss the fans cheered their hearts out the last inning as a tribute to the season if nothing else. Everyone makes a big deal out of the Cubs' fan support, but the fact is, the quality doesn't match the quantity. It's a loser mentality and it's killing the ballclub. Yeah, there's been a lot of heartbreak. But past is past. When Cubs fans say "the Cubs are dead to me" after such an incredible season, and with such promise still on the roster, it's explanation enough for why the losing continues.

that is crazy. the attitude of the fans had nothing to do with their lose.

it had nothing to do with Lou putting Fuk in the line up batting second when he couldnt even start for their Tripple A team. it had nothing to do with Dempster being picked to start game one then throwing up on himself and walking 7 batters. it had nothing to do with a Gold Glove first basemen booting balls in the field. it had nothing to do with their lack of clutch hitting throughout the series. it had nothing to do with their lineup being right hand dominant. it had nothing to do with them facing right handed sinker ballers tossing some of their best games of the season. i could go on forever.

the curse, the fans, the goat (no not CyLowe), the 101 years is all crap. no of that had anything to do with the way the players performed. they are professionals getting paid to do a job. they didnt do it and that is all i gots to say about that. later.

I bet you anything the minor leaguers could have played it better, not to mention, perhaps the Rays (low as hell payroll and some unknown stars) should host a "be a team 101" and teach these high paying loons to play like they should.

I keep looking for a choke smile. Maybe I'll try this one: :deadhorse:

The Cubs, always a Bridesmaid never a Bride.

Wait until Sandberg manages.

They are moving the team to the Philippines. Renaming them the Manilla Folders.

Kenal0

Maybe the Cubs will move the organization to the Dominican Republic and call themselves the Haiti Sosas.

Better thought...let's do what the Red Sox have done the last few seasons: keep the roster intact and hope the third time is finally the charm.