Wavy
10-03-08, 12:18 PM
http://www.eyeweekly.com/torontonotes/article/40783
Advocacy & Safety - Kill a clyclist, pay $110
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Denny Koll
10-03-08, 12:25 PM
That's outrageous!
It's even worse when they have the two for one nights.
It's even worse when they have the two for one nights.
CB HI
10-03-08, 04:58 PM
Does the Toronto bike plan include training cyclist not to ride in the Door Zone?
genec
10-03-08, 05:10 PM
Does the Toronto bike plan include training cyclist not to ride in the Door Zone?
Hey here in the US, we encourage that... by putting "approved" bike lanes right in the door zone.
Hey here in the US, we encourage that... by putting "approved" bike lanes right in the door zone.
CB HI
10-03-08, 06:53 PM
Hey here in the US, we encourage that... by putting "approved" bike lanes right in the door zone.
OK everyone, don't blame me for saying "Bike Lane" is this thread. I tried real hard not to go that direction.:popcorn
OK everyone, don't blame me for saying "Bike Lane" is this thread. I tried real hard not to go that direction.:popcorn
Allister
10-03-08, 07:53 PM
OK everyone, don't blame me for saying "Bike Lane" is this thread. I tried real hard not to go that direction.:popcorn
Why? The whole article in the OP is about bike lanes?
Why? The whole article in the OP is about bike lanes?
genec
10-04-08, 08:38 AM
OK everyone, don't blame me for saying "Bike Lane" is this thread. I tried real hard not to go that direction.:popcorn
Just try to restrain yourself from then leading to the conclusion that ALL bike lanes are therefore deadly. That is about par with saying that since "little Johnny" burned himself, all fire must be banned.
Just try to restrain yourself from then leading to the conclusion that ALL bike lanes are therefore deadly. That is about par with saying that since "little Johnny" burned himself, all fire must be banned.
CB HI
10-04-08, 03:48 PM
Just try to restrain yourself from then leading to the conclusion that ALL bike lanes are therefore deadly. That is about par with saying that since "little Johnny" burned himself, all fire must be banned.Please show me any specific post of mine with such statements or conclusions that I have made. Seems you must be reading too much into others post, based on your statement.:(
You of all people should remember when I and other VC advocates (including HH) said that mid-block, 5-6 foot wide bike lanes, going up steep hills, that are frequently swept; were just fine with us and even useful.
We don't advocate banning fire, but we do advocate not handing out blow torches to kids that will unsuspectingly burn themselves. (similar to giving a new, inexperienced cyclist, a door zone bike lane and telling them to go ride in it for their own safety).
You of all people should remember when I and other VC advocates (including HH) said that mid-block, 5-6 foot wide bike lanes, going up steep hills, that are frequently swept; were just fine with us and even useful.
We don't advocate banning fire, but we do advocate not handing out blow torches to kids that will unsuspectingly burn themselves. (similar to giving a new, inexperienced cyclist, a door zone bike lane and telling them to go ride in it for their own safety).
gcottay
10-04-08, 03:53 PM
I consider avoiding the door zone my responsibility as a rider.
Yes, I check the mirror before opening a car door when street parked, but could easily miss a cyclist and open my door right in front of him or her.
Yes, I check the mirror before opening a car door when street parked, but could easily miss a cyclist and open my door right in front of him or her.