Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Bacon and Eggs

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damnable
10-05-08, 09:02 PM
Hello all,
I am having a bit of a problem food wise.
At the moment for breakfast I normally have a largish bowl of oats along with a piece of fruit. I used to have toast until I realised it was just pieces of bread (not the best) with a thin coating of spread.

The trouble is by the time I get to work I am already hungry. I try to shack through it but sometimes that just makes it worse. I normally get around it by having lunch early, but that can lead to other problems, normally getting hungry earlier in the afternoon. I don't mean jst a little peckish either, I mean hungry enough to distract me from work.

Now once a month if that I get a treat and have bacon and eggs for brekkie. It's probably the protein but I find this keeps me going through, normally so I get hungry at a late lunch time if not later.

So my question is...bacon and eggs can't be a good thing to have for breakfast everyday. So can anyone suggest good ways to get protein or anything into my brekkies to stop me starving throughout the mornings. I'm willing to experiment.

Thanks in advance.


CliftonGK1
10-05-08, 09:39 PM
I'm a big fan of IsoPure Zero Carb.

No carbohydrate, minimal fat, and 50 whopping grams of protein.

ZombieButcher
10-05-08, 09:58 PM
Try a Ham sandwich or other type of meat. Who says we have to have cereal. Maybe a little bit of steak from the night before. Also Peanut butter is a good source of protein as well are other nuts.

I will get a box of protein bars have one of those along with juice and some fruit before a long ride.


Rob P.
10-05-08, 10:00 PM
The nutrition forum would be better for this question. However, fiber cereals like Oats tend to make people hungry fairly soon after eating. You need to be eating complex carbs and protein to make it last.

One last thing. . . drink fluids. Fluids will take away the hunger pangs and have little or no calories. That plus a fruit snack mid way between meals will keep you honest. (did you know that a cup of grapes has only 62 calories and a banana has 105?)

cod.peace
10-05-08, 10:05 PM
Steel cut oats are way, WAY more filling than quick-cook oatmeal (and much tastier too). It takes a 1/2 hour of simmering to cook them, so you may consider doing it the night before. I buy 'em for abot $0.80/lb in the bulk bin at the grocery store. I use some Grade B maple syrup as a sweetener since a little goes a long way. I combine a 1/2 cup (dry) of the oats with a pair of hard boiled eggs and I'm full til lunch.

Eggs are good for you. If you consume too much cholesterol, your liver manufactures less. Very high cholesterol intake along with lots of trans-saturated fats and saturated fats appears to be bad for you, but if you're consuming healthy fats I wouldn't sweat it. And if anyone's wondering, I actually have a few years of cholesterol measurements that show suggest a slight positive effect of eggs on my HDL and LDL levels over the years, not that individual anecdotes are medically useful.

Richard_Rides
10-05-08, 10:25 PM
When you get to work and you get those terrible hunger pangs, go to Youtube and watch videos of people throwing up. It works for me.

Dr_Robert
10-06-08, 12:43 AM
There's nothing wrong with snacking throughout the day (it's actually good for your metabolism), as long as you pay attention to what (and how much) you're eating. Have your normal breakfast, and take a granola bar / some trail mix / a bannana / etc. to work with you for a mid-morning snack.

If protein seems to do the trick for you, a handful of nuts (almonds, cashews, etc.) around 9am might be just what you're looking for. Just be sure to mind your portion sizes - nuts are easy to overeat, if you're not careful.

-DR

JKing
10-06-08, 03:57 AM
After my commute and morning workout I would have one of these, I also have one after my late evening workouts too. They fill me up and taste good too, I haven't tried the new chocolate version yet. Check out the nutritional info they are packed with protein and all natural.

http://www.nakedjuice.com/?#OurJuices/Background/MainMenu/Families/Protein/bottle0

flip18436572
10-06-08, 04:54 AM
I make up eggs the night before, or make a few days worth of scrambled eggs with onions and green peppers or other veggies. Then put that in the fridge at work, and when I get hungry, I eat a little or make it into a burrito. Whole wheat tortilla shells help also, rather than just the plain white flour shells. A banana as a snack is good also. Most bananas are large enough that they count as two fruits anyway, so I sometimes eat half and wait an hour or so and finish the rest of the banana.

The other thing, is drink a lot more water. Hunger pangs are often signs of dehydration. Not severe usually, but often that is what your body is craving.

Indie
10-06-08, 07:24 AM
I'm often surprised by how little protein it takes to prevent that sort of thing. It doesn't have to be a full plate of meat with a plurality of eggs. One scrambled egg in a wrap or a bun will do it for me, or maybe a cheese sandwich. Or find some convincing and tasty fake meat so that you can get protein without the cholesterol.

nobull60
10-06-08, 08:04 AM
When you get to work and you get those terrible hunger pangs, go to Youtube and watch videos of people throwing up. It works for me.


:roflmao2: :lol: :roflmao2: :lol:


Good Ol' H2o is the way to go.....Drink it all day long. Made a HUGE difference in my food intake issue.

bautieri
10-06-08, 08:05 AM
Your not eating those flavored instant oats are you?

Sometimes when I need an extra boost (or if I know I will be eating lunch late) I'll take two tablespoons of natural peanut butter and stir that into my oatmeal. It will turn it into one huge tasty sludge while adding extra fiber, protein, and flavor. Just be careful not to choke on it as it can get very thick.

Neil_B
10-06-08, 08:14 AM
Your not eating those flavored instant oats are you?

Sometimes when I need an extra boost (or if I know I will be eating lunch late) I'll take two tablespoons of natural peanut butter and stir that into my oatmeal. It will turn it into one huge tasty sludge while adding extra fiber, protein, and flavor. Just be careful not to choke on it as it can get very thick.

I go you one better and add yogurt as well as the peanut butter.

gearhead82
10-06-08, 08:27 AM
This is my breakfast and it works very well for me!

(1) light Thomas Multigrain English muffin
(1) serving of Egg Beaters (or egg whites)
(2) slices of canadian bacon
(1) slice of 2% cheese

Put them together and make a ham, egg, cheese muffin. The whole thing is only 255 calories and has 33g of protein and I think 8g of fiber. You can even have 2 of these with calories that low.

deraltekluge
10-06-08, 08:46 AM
There really is nothing wrong with bacon and eggs for breakfast if you're a normally healthy person with no metabolic disorders. Just keep the total calorie count down.

lil brown bat
10-06-08, 09:06 AM
I concur with what others have said: if the "bowl of oats" is the instant kind, try going for the old-fashioned kind with a bit more fiber (and no added sugar and crap), and add a modest amount of lean protein. Eggs aren't the best source for lean protein, but they're far from the worst. Bacon...not so much, even if it's not the uber-fatty US bacon, it's not a nutritional bonanza.

sstorkel
10-06-08, 10:41 AM
I'm often surprised by how little protein it takes to prevent that sort of thing. It doesn't have to be a full plate of meat with a plurality of eggs. One scrambled egg in a wrap or a bun will do it for me, or maybe a cheese sandwich.

Agree. I've also found that an English muffin or half of a bagel with Ham (or Canadian bacon) and piece of low-fat cheese works pretty well for breakfast. I try to keep the bread portion whole wheat if possible and buy bagels that are moderate in size to help keep a lid on calories. If I'm out of traditional breakfast stuff, I'll sometimes toast a sandwich with some "lite" sausage and a piece of low-fat cheese. A little bit higher in calories, but the protein and fat will keep me from getting hungry before lunch.

daintonj
10-06-08, 11:08 AM
Think how hard it is for me. I can get a free bacon and sausage sandwich with a piece of black pudding* in it every single day, that's a hard offer to turn down. It also explains why with 8 hours good exercise in a week I lost a single kilo.

*I could have cereal or a fruit salad which would also be free, the gluttony is of my own choosing and not a company policy.

andrelam
10-06-08, 12:19 PM
Steel cut oats are way, WAY more filling than quick-cook oatmeal (and much tastier too). It takes a 1/2 hour of simmering to cook them, so you may consider doing it the night before. I buy 'em for abot $0.80/lb in the bulk bin at the grocery store. I use some Grade B maple syrup as a sweetener since a little goes a long way. I combine a 1/2 cup (dry) of the oats with a pair of hard boiled eggs and I'm full til lunch.

Eggs are good for you. If you consume too much cholesterol, your liver manufactures less. Very high cholesterol intake along with lots of trans-saturated fats and saturated fats appears to be bad for you, but if you're consuming healthy fats I wouldn't sweat it. And if anyone's wondering, I actually have a few years of cholesterol measurements that show suggest a slight positive effect of eggs on my HDL and LDL levels over the years, not that individual anecdotes are medically useful.

+1 on the traditional oats. It has a few things going for it. It is high in fiber which means that your body has to work to digest it. This means it keeps you filling full longer, prevents quick spikes in blood suger, and is supposed to help reduce your cholesterol over time. On other bonus it that the stuff is CHEAP. I have found that the store brand and Quaker stuff all looks and tastes the same. I got some containers for around a $1 each. Each container lasts a few weeks. What else costs less than $0.10 and fills you up half a day?

For ease of making traditional oatmeal I find that I can make one serving and microwave it for 2 minutes (any longer and it tends to explode... not a fun clean up after that). I make it as soon as I get up and then go and take a shower and get my lunch ready. after about 20 minutes it is still hot and it is now soft enough to be easy to eat. I don't mind the texture at all.

I add an 8 oz glas of OJ and that keeps me satisfied till around 11:30 am.

What I've read most recently about eggs seems to indicated that yes, there is lots of cholesterol in them, but the body doesn't directly absorb it. The protein in eggs helps keep you feeling full for a while and therefore people who add an egg to breakfast feel full for a longer period of time and therefore are less likely to snack. What is realy bad is food high in saturated fat, but eggs are not that bad.

Happy riding,
André

Wogster
10-06-08, 04:10 PM
Hello all,
I am having a bit of a problem food wise.
At the moment for breakfast I normally have a largish bowl of oats along with a piece of fruit. I used to have toast until I realised it was just pieces of bread (not the best) with a thin coating of spread.

The trouble is by the time I get to work I am already hungry. I try to shack through it but sometimes that just makes it worse. I normally get around it by having lunch early, but that can lead to other problems, normally getting hungry earlier in the afternoon. I don't mean jst a little peckish either, I mean hungry enough to distract me from work.

Now once a month if that I get a treat and have bacon and eggs for brekkie. It's probably the protein but I find this keeps me going through, normally so I get hungry at a late lunch time if not later.

So my question is...bacon and eggs can't be a good thing to have for breakfast everyday. So can anyone suggest good ways to get protein or anything into my brekkies to stop me starving throughout the mornings. I'm willing to experiment.

Thanks in advance.

I wonder about eggs, you get someone like my grandfather, a farmer, he probably had bacon and eggs, every day of his life, he died at 94....

10 Wheels
10-06-08, 05:00 PM
I wonder about eggs, you get someone like my grandfather, a farmer, he probably had bacon and eggs, every day of his life, he died at 94....

Eat all the bacon and eggs you want.
I lost 25 lbs on Dr Stillman's diet doing just that.

lil brown bat
10-06-08, 05:00 PM
I wonder about eggs, you get someone like my grandfather, a farmer, he probably had bacon and eggs, every day of his life, he died at 94....

He also did hard physical labor all day every day. Do you?

Wogster
10-06-08, 05:38 PM
He also did hard physical labor all day every day. Do you?

Actually, I do, I load delivery trucks for a courier company, typically that means 300-500 boxes that are on average 50lbs a piece, Although as we are quickly coming on H**l month, I expect that to increase quite a bit, possibly even double, means I can eat like crap, and still hold or even lose weight.

sHANDRIL105
10-06-08, 05:56 PM
I eat bacon and eggs for breakfast almost every day along with a piece of toast. My total cholesterol is 134 and my blood pressure is 112/70. Life is good!

lil brown bat
10-06-08, 06:39 PM
Actually, I do, I load delivery trucks for a courier company, typically that means 300-500 boxes that are on average 50lbs a piece, Although as we are quickly coming on H**l month, I expect that to increase quite a bit, possibly even double, means I can eat like crap, and still hold or even lose weight.

Well there ya go. So are you a Clydesdale or not? Because people who actually do hard physical labor all day typically don't end up as Clydesdales.

Wogster
10-06-08, 07:04 PM
Well there ya go. So are you a Clydesdale or not? Because people who actually do hard physical labor all day typically don't end up as Clydesdales.

I have not weighed myself recently, but I was around 210lbs last I checked. When I first started with this employer about 6 years ago, (doing a different, but still physical job), I was 260, started cycling again a couple of years ago. So, I expect to drop through the clyde barrier soon, if not already.

Indie
10-06-08, 07:24 PM
Darnit... I want some fried eggs now. :rolleyes: The way I used to eat them in college, with toast and runny yolks and Vietnamese chili-garlic paste.

lil brown bat
10-07-08, 06:28 AM
I have not weighed myself recently, but I was around 210lbs last I checked. When I first started with this employer about 6 years ago, (doing a different, but still physical job), I was 260, started cycling again a couple of years ago. So, I expect to drop through the clyde barrier soon, if not already.

Good on ya. So once you're at your granddaddy's weight, you get to eat your granddaddy's breakfast -- as long as you keep doing your granddaddy's work. :D

damnable
10-07-08, 05:56 PM
Ahh, thanks for that.

I'll look into other forms of oats as I am using the instant kind (although not flavored except I add a bit of cinnamon).

At the suggestion of someone else I have already looked for steel cut oats and can't seem to find the anywhere around here so I might have to leave that.

Oh, and what is 'Canadian bacon'? Whenever I have bacon it's always short cut. Which is basically a normal rasher with the fatty tail bit removed (more meaty goodness).

Wogster
10-07-08, 06:31 PM
Good on ya. So once you're at your granddaddy's weight, you get to eat your granddaddy's breakfast -- as long as you keep doing your granddaddy's work. :D

Why are you being so hostile? While I think that bacon and eggs isn't a bad idea if you can "afford" it, unlike my grandfather, I think it would get boring after a while, although as a once a week thing, it's probably okay. One way to help it though, fry the bacon without adding fat, pour off the fat before cooking the eggs, in the same pan, what was common in granddaddy's day was to save the fat, and use it for cooking other things, rather then buying or making other fats like butter. Although uncommon in cities in the last 70 years, in grand-dads day, anything that could be reused was, anything that could be repaired was repaired, and anything that could be recycled was recycled.

Wogster
10-07-08, 06:35 PM
Ahh, thanks for that.

I'll look into other forms of oats as I am using the instant kind (although not flavored except I add a bit of cinnamon).

At the suggestion of someone else I have already looked for steel cut oats and can't seem to find the anywhere around here so I might have to leave that.

Oh, and what is 'Canadian bacon'? Whenever I have bacon it's always short cut. Which is basically a normal rasher with the fatty tail bit removed (more meaty goodness).

Actually, instant oats are not really faster then regular oats, take a large pot put in some water, toss in some raisins or other flavour enhancers, like cinnamon, bring to boil, add oats, and turn off heat, let sit for 5-10 minutes, and it's done. Of course while waiting, do other stuff.

f4rrest
10-07-08, 07:02 PM
Try your oats raw (like a horse!) with some milk and maybe sprinkle a bit of granola on it. I find it keeps from digesting as quickly, and it's really pretty tasty.

(Oh yeah, eggs... they're good but cook 'em -- better yet, have a spoon of fat free cottage cheese.)

Dantebfd
10-07-08, 07:23 PM
Steel cut are also known as Irish oats. I boil a cup of milk, drop in 1/3 cup of oats and simmer for 13 minutes (I like mine a bit crunchy)- I splash in a bit of milk, flax seed and blueberries and eat.

I usually save the eggs for weekends but I did the Southbeach diet a while ago and it took a long time for me to even look at an egg after the first 2 weeks of that.

JKing
10-07-08, 08:36 PM
Oats, Oats, Oats

http://www.bobsredmill.com/home.php?cat=112

I'm just now exploring the world of oats now that I have time to cook them, the site above has a store locator so you can find them.

gearhead82
10-07-08, 08:57 PM
Oh, and what is 'Canadian bacon'? Whenever I have bacon it's always short cut. Which is basically a normal rasher with the fatty tail bit removed (more meaty goodness).

Canadian bacon is not really bacon at all. It's actually just ham. I have no idea why its called Canadian bacon now that you mention it. Are there any Canadians who care to explain this to us, ehh?

deraltekluge
10-07-08, 10:04 PM
Oh, and what is 'Canadian bacon'? Whenever I have bacon it's always short cut. Which is basically a normal rasher with the fatty tail bit removed (more meaty goodness). wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon_(film))

Indie
10-08-08, 07:26 AM
That link is to the movie. You want this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_bacon

There's also a more heavily-processed form sold in a round hammish-looking loaf thing. You often find slices of that on fast food breakfast sandwiches.