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trifona
03-15-04, 08:28 PM
A emailed Lemond today to get some information on the no name brakes on the '03 Tourmalet that I purchased.

The response that I received stated that that they were OEM'd for Lemond, are comparable to Tiagra brakes, and weigh 295 grams EACH!.

Actual Shimano 105 brakes weigh 353 for both front and rear.

When I asked for a confirmation in case he meant for both, he affirmed his original statement.

Could this possibly be so?


Davet
03-16-04, 03:56 AM
I would be easy enough to remove one brake and weigh it on an electronic gram scale

wlevey
03-16-04, 07:01 AM
A emailed Lemond today to get some information on the no name brakes on the '03 Tourmalet that I purchased.

The response that I received stated that that they were OEM'd for Lemond, are comparable to Tiagra brakes, and weigh 295 grams EACH!.

Actual Shimano 105 brakes weigh 353 for both front and rear.

When I asked for a confirmation in case he meant for both, he affirmed his original statement.

Could this possibly be so?

How did you contact Lemond? I am interested in getting a realistic weight on my '03 Buenos Aires.

Thanks...Bill


slide13
03-16-04, 07:50 AM
I'm guessing that is right, I doubt the guy would lie to you by telling you they are heavier then they really are, and I'm sure they are significantly heavier then 105 too. Best thing to do though is weigh it yourself.

wlevey- You can just email them off the website, but I don't know how accurate there weights would be for a complete bike. Best thing to do is just weigh it yourself with home scale (weigh yourself, then yourself holding bike and subtract) or see if your LBS has a scale you can use. We have a nice, reasonably accurate scale at the shop that we let customers use all the time.

wlevey
03-16-04, 07:58 AM
I'm guessing that is right, I doubt the guy would lie to you by telling you they are heavier then they really are, and I'm sure they are significantly heavier then 105 too. Best thing to do though is weigh it yourself.

wlevey- You can just email them off the website, but I don't know how accurate there weights would be for a complete bike. Best thing to do is just weigh it yourself with home scale (weigh yourself, then yourself holding bike and subtract) or see if your LBS has a scale you can use. We have a nice, reasonably accurate scale at the shop that we let customers use all the time.


I already did that and got 20 lbs. fully loaded with bag, pump, water bottles, Flight Deck and HRM. I was just wondering what the "oficial weight" is. I also, don't know how accurate my scale is!!

Bill

trifona
03-16-04, 08:19 AM
I'm guessing that is right, I doubt the guy would lie to you by telling you they are heavier then they really are, and I'm sure they are significantly heavier then 105 too. Best thing to do though is weigh it yourself.

wlevey- You can just email them off the website, but I don't know how accurate there weights would be for a complete bike. Best thing to do is just weigh it yourself with home scale (weigh yourself, then yourself holding bike and subtract) or see if your LBS has a scale you can use. We have a nice, reasonably accurate scale at the shop that we let customers use all the time.

slide,

I don't think he was lying. I'm questioning their spec list. I would expect them to be heavier yes, but 2x as much?

MichaelW
03-16-04, 11:09 AM
105 are not lightweight, but the extra metal is well used. They are very stiff and powerful. I use 105 calipers, and like them a lot.
In the days when Dura Ace were fancy dual-pivots, and 600 were single pivots, pro-riders often swapped to the lighter, lower-end brakes, since stopping is not a high priority for elite racers.
Modern high-end gruppos often use lighter/weaker brakes than the mid-range.

wlevey
03-16-04, 11:24 AM
105 are not lightweight, but the extra metal is well used. They are very stiff and powerful. I use 105 calipers, and like them a lot.
In the days when Dura Ace were fancy dual-pivots, and 600 were single pivots, pro-riders often swapped to the lighter, lower-end brakes, since stopping is not a high priority for elite racers.
Modern high-end gruppos often use lighter/weaker brakes than the mid-range.

Are you syggesting that Ultegra are not as strong/safe as 105?? I was told by my LBS that they were the best option to go with (and no, it wasn't to get me to spend more money [I hope]).

Bill

Phatman
03-16-04, 03:18 PM
Ultegra works really well.

te place where the stronger/lighter tradoff occurs is on the campy record group, where the back brake is single pivot while the front is dual, to provide stopping power where it is needed and light weight where stopping power isn't needed.

Avalanche325
03-16-04, 04:24 PM
I am interested in getting a realistic weight on my '03 Buenos Aires.

Well, then certainly don't ask the company that is selling the bike. You need to weigh it yourself. Your LBS should have a scale.