Fifty Plus (50+) - A cranky attitude and still no coffee...

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We're out of coffee this morning. So, no big deal. I strap on the helmet and ride to the grocery store 3/4 of a mile away. Once I have my SINGLE bag of coffee and head to the checkout I see two lanes open. One with three folks with carts full of goods, and the other is the "Express" line with the sign that reads "Ten items or less". I step into this line only to see the man in front of me with a cart full of items (I counted 42). Since I've not yet had my coffee, I don't censor myself and say, "Hey, this is the express line. You belong in the other line." The guy never responds or even looks at me. AND the clerk begins to check him out. I ask to see the manager when it's my turn to be checked out. Manager comes over and I ask why they have the signs if they aren't going to honor them. He gets all huffy and says they attempt to serve all of their customers equally well. I point out that I sure don't feel this "equality" thing of which he speaks. Then he says I can always choose to shop elsewhere. At which point I say, "You're right. I can.", and walk out of the store without paying for or taking the coffee. So here I sit at my keyboard and still haven't had my coffee yet. I'm feeling very cranky right now. I'd best stop posting until I'm in a better mood.
Suzie Green
10-24-08, 07:03 AM
Go back in, get a cart with about 100 items, go through the register. When it comes time to pay, say "Oh darn, I forgot my wallet" and leave all the stuff there and go home.
Next time bring your bike into the store and see what kind of "attention" you get. :p
linux_author
10-24-08, 07:08 AM
i'm curious - what grocery chain?
you could always report the manager to corporate (most chains don't want to employ managers who tell customers to shop elsewhere)...
Allegheny Jet
10-24-08, 07:09 AM
Go back in, get a cart with about 100 items, go through the register. When it comes time to pay, say "Oh darn, I forgot my wallet" and leave all the stuff there and go home.
And be sure to put the bags of potato chips under the case of green beans and the deli sliced meat on top of it all.:D Or, you cold just email the coporate office with your concerns about the management running the store you will be leaving.
Suzie Green
10-24-08, 07:16 AM
And be sure to put the bags of potato chips under the case of green beans and the deli sliced meat on top of it all.:D
My store puts the eggs on the bottom so that when they break, they don't run all over everything else. :roflmao2:
Timtruro
10-24-08, 07:34 AM
Encourage your friends not to shop there either. That kind of thing drives me nuts You should complain to whatever the next level of management is. Forget the local dumb ass, he may not care but that attitude will eventually put his employees jobs at risk. Chain name?:crash:
maddmaxx
10-24-08, 07:38 AM
On the other hand, when I shop at 7am on Sunday morning and have about 60 items in my cart and there is only one register open with a line.................I appreciate it when the clerk at the unused express register says.............."I can take the next person over here...:)
Life is relative..................and short
I'm still trying to work out what the problem is :twitchy:
Richard
pennypue
10-24-08, 08:06 AM
I'd still shop there. Just that I'd fill my cart FULL of stuff, head for the 12 items or less lane, then just pick out the few things that I really need and leave the rest right there.
Ok, really, I wouldn't.....but sounds fun, doesn't it? :)
Cone Wrench
10-24-08, 08:24 AM
Sometimes, one's indignation can lead to actions which are not in one's best self-interest.
:50:Let's just face it some people are really stupid and should not be alowed to reproduce. 50% of the world has hemmorids, the other half are perfect A-holes. You really have not seen a grouch until you see me with out my coffee.
Don't pick a fight with an old man, he will just kill ya!
Pop's:50:
Digital Gee
10-24-08, 09:01 AM
What an opportunity for that manager to take his team to the next level, change a few paradigms, and do some thinking outside the box!
gcottay
10-24-08, 10:23 AM
I've found feelings of entitlement cause only problems. Gratitude, however, is always sweet.
Rick@OCRR
10-24-08, 10:40 AM
I don't understand why you didn't stop at Starbucks . . .
It seems like there's one (almost) on every corner.
Rick / OCRR
Billy Bones
10-24-08, 11:25 AM
In These Times, it's beneficial to just expect bad service, disdain, and offense. Make a game of it by staying cheerful and calm, beatific even. You win the match if your heart rate stays withing 10 beats of normal. Yeah, go ahead and contact "corporate" (I did it this AM, myself.), but don't live in the least expectation that "corporate" cares much. After all, they'll still sell groceries to saints, sinners, trolls, and troglodytes in profitable abundance 'cause they all gotta' eat.
Oh, and for Jove's Merry Sake, stockpile a tactical reserve of coffee.
Here endeth the lesson.
Retro Grouch
10-24-08, 11:35 AM
Wrong approach.
Since the clerk hadn't started checking out the 43 item guy, why didn't you ask if they'd let you go ahead? That's what I would have done and I'm a grouch.
roadfix
10-24-08, 11:47 AM
Without asking, a sharp, observant clerk would have taken you ahead of the 42 item guy.
Tom Bombadil
10-24-08, 12:35 PM
IMHO, the manager was definitely in the wrong. And I have several years of retail management experience. Even if he tells his cashiers to go ahead and process everyone in any line, he should have apologized to you, gone to a register, rung you up, and thanked you for your business.
If it came to my attention that a manager did what you said that manager did, I would have them in my office to explain their actions and do a little customer service coaching.
Cone Wrench
10-24-08, 12:52 PM
In These Times, it's beneficial to just expect bad service, disdain, and offense. Make a game of it by staying cheerful and calm, beatific even. You win the match if your heart rate stays withing 10 beats of normal. Yeah, go ahead and contact "corporate" (I did it this AM, myself.), but don't live in the least expectation that "corporate" cares much. After all, they'll still sell groceries to saints, sinners, trolls, and troglodytes in profitable abundance 'cause they all gotta' eat.
Oh, and for Jove's Merry Sake, stockpile a tactical reserve of coffee.
Here endeth the lesson.
Aha! I think we now have come to the crux of the problem. It seems that NOS88 is using this talk of express lanes, managers and grocery items to distract us from the heinous crime of allowing the house to run out of coffee.
How do you answer these charges, NOS88?
maddmaxx
10-24-08, 01:02 PM
Nolo Coffendri
jiminos
10-24-08, 02:04 PM
What an opportunity for that manager to take his team to the next level, change a few paradigms, and do some thinking outside the box!
where have i seen these phrases before? :innocent::roflmao2:
be well,
jim
Old School
10-24-08, 02:30 PM
What an opportunity for that manager to take his team to the next level, change a few paradigms, and do some thinking outside the box!
Spoken like a true organizational consultant!! :lol:
BengeBoy
10-24-08, 02:43 PM
Sometimes, one's indignation can lead to actions which are not in one's best self-interest.
Absolutely!
I once walked out of a store after an encounter like the one above and I realized that *I* was losing the war because I had to go to another store. I went back into the store, explained that I didn't want my frustration to make my day worse, asked the manager for his name and store number, asked him to ring me up, and then went home with my purchase. I then emailed corporate HQ w/my version of the story.
Managers of big chain stores don't really care about losing one sale if they're having a bad day. They *do* care about a phone call from the district manager asking what was up with the letter that came down from corporate HQ.
The store manager gave you the best suggestion. Now write a letter to the corporate headquarters and tell them why you are following that suggestion. And be damn sure you never run out of coffee again.
Aha! I think we now have come to the crux of the problem. It seems that NOS88 is using this talk of express lanes, managers and grocery items to distract us from the heinous crime of allowing the house to run out of coffee.
How do you answer these charges, NOS88?
In my household, keeping the kitchen stocked is not one of my duties (I have vacuuming, cleaning bathrooms, yard work and my own laundry on my weekly list). When I noticed the coffee was running low, my lovely spouse said she would pick some up. Alas, she did not.
i'm curious - what grocery chain?
you could always report the manager to corporate (most chains don't want to employ managers who tell customers to shop elsewhere)...
It wasn't a corporate chain. Rather, it's a family own business with a handful of local stores.
I'm still trying to work out what the problem is :twitchy:
Richard
To me the problem is that it's manipulative for a store to advertise that you can pick up a few items quickly because they have express lanes, and then not honor this.
I've found feelings of entitlement cause only problems. Gratitude, however, is always sweet.
And I should be grateful for....?
I don't understand why you didn't stop at Starbucks . . .
It seems like there's one (almost) on every corner.
Rick / OCRR
Starbucks would not be my first choice even if they were right next door.
To bring some closure to this. I did get my coffee (at a Dunkin Donuts... without getting a donut) and stopped back at the grocery store to speak with the manager. He, I assume after having time to think about it, was quite apologetic and gave me the coffee as a way to make up for my trouble. He said that they have instructed the checkout clerks to take anyone in line despite what the sign says. I asked what the purpose of the signs were. His response? "Most people are pretty good about keeping it under the number of items. So, we don't worry about it." I then left the store, came home and went for a brisk 20 mile ride. I'm feeling much better now.
I've opened my mouth on more than one occasion and lived to regret it. Most recently at a tavern. I didn't like the way my beer was poured. Seriously.
To bring some closure to this. I did get my coffee (at a Dunkin Donuts... without getting a donut) and stopped back at the grocery store to speak with the manager. He, I assume after having time to think about it, was quite apologetic and gave me the coffee as a way to make up for my trouble. He said that they have instructed the checkout clerks to take anyone in line despite what the sign says. I asked what the purpose of the signs were. His response? "Most people are pretty good about keeping it under the number of items. So, we don't worry about it." I then left the store, came home and went for a brisk 20 mile ride. I'm feeling much better now.
I love a reasonably happy ending.........
cranky old dude
10-25-08, 07:48 AM
We're out of coffee this morning. So, no big deal. I strap on the helmet and ride to the grocery store 3/4 of a mile away. Once I have my SINGLE bag of coffee and head to the checkout I see two lanes open. One with three folks with carts full of goods, and the other is the "Express" line with the sign that reads "Ten items or less". I step into this line only to see the man in front of me with a cart full of items (I counted 42). Since I've not yet had my coffee, I don't censor myself and say, "Hey, this is the express line. You belong in the other line." The guy never responds or even looks at me. AND the clerk begins to check him out. I ask to see the manager when it's my turn to be checked out. Manager comes over and I ask why they have the signs if they aren't going to honor them. He gets all huffy and says they attempt to serve all of their customers equally well. I point out that I sure don't feel this "equality" thing of which he speaks. Then he says I can always choose to shop elsewhere. At which point I say, "You're right. I can.", and walk out of the store without paying for or taking the coffee. So here I sit at my keyboard and still haven't had my coffee yet. I'm feeling very cranky right now. I'd best stop posting until I'm in a better mood.
I suspect the real problem is lack of patience, not lack of coffee. When I get worked
up like that I usually end up wishing that I hadn't let the situation bother me so much.
I need to work on my patience as perhaps many of us do a little.
Just my opinion of course (running and hiding now).
I'm glad it all worked out in the end.
Happy Trails
Patience? I remember patience - it used to come in little blue jars didn't it?
Richard
BengeBoy
10-25-08, 10:10 AM
Patience? I remember patience - it used to come in little blue jars didn't it?
Richard
Unfortunately, one can run low on patience the same day one runs low on coffee.
I have a rule for myself that I try to use on occassions like the OP's. My rule is that I will not get angry about anything right now if I will not still be angry in 30 days. It works for me almost every time. But I don't know about before my morning coffee. That would be pushing it.
I suspect the real problem is lack of patience, not lack of coffee. When I get worked
up like that I usually end up wishing that I hadn't let the situation bother me so much.
I need to work on my patience as perhaps many of us do a little.
Just my opinion of course (running and hiding now).
I'm glad it all worked out in the end.
Happy Trails
Actually, I thought I was being very patient. I mean I took the time to count his items before I said anything.
I have a rule for myself that I try to use on occassions like the OP's. My rule is that I will not get angry about anything right now if I will not still be angry in 30 days. It works for me almost every time. But I don't know about before my morning coffee. That would be pushing it.
I don't recall saying I was angry. Annoyed, a little a first, more as events unfolded. Angry? No. Although it did make me cranky, and I think there is a real difference between being cranky and being angry.
It's amazing the affect a cup of coffee (or no coffee) has on an ordinary person. If I can't have my coffee by a certain time in the morning, I feel almost uncontrollably irritable -- no one can act fast enough, and everything seems in the way, until I can get to my coffee. Then, about halfway through the cup, a sense of calm and sensibility comes over me, and I'm a new person. Just one cup (for me) is all it takes. Come to think of it.... it's time to go make the coffee.:twitchy:
wobblyoldgeezer
10-26-08, 10:27 AM
So, NOS88, did you take his photo on your camera phone, yell at him, follow him into the car park and break his mirror?
Sorry, I'm low on coffee and I occasionally read Advocacy and Safety.
uciflylow
10-26-08, 10:35 AM
I have found that MY expectations are often the root of MY frustrations. (Spouse, cashear, fella with a basket full, store manager)
And I should be grateful for....? I'm grateful I can rise before the sun, ride to the job I'm grateful I have and enjoy life.
I'm also grateful I stopped drinking coffee years ago, I'm much easier going now!:p
roadfix
10-26-08, 10:38 AM
This is my new coffee stop which opened recently very close to my home. :D
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/jojisan/FIXcoffee.jpg
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