Winter Cycling - Wool knickers

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veggie_lover
10-27-08, 09:33 PM
Are these any good, the price seems right:
http://www.swisslink.com/products/product.php?id=29&sid=4
I would be afraid of those for road biking, as they are more "fashion" type knickers and will not be appropriately cut.
These (http://www.kucharikclothing.com/wool-knickers-34-tights-p-449.html?osCsid=b5edbf4aad33b3f12263af9f4441c5bd) are good wool cycling knickers. In this day and age, you pretty much get what you pay for.
CastIron
10-28-08, 09:40 AM
For $10 I'd give 'em a whirl. Personally, I like my Endura and Ibex knickers depending on use. Not so good for actual winter, though.
Elkhound
10-31-08, 01:23 PM
I have a pair of these:
http://bicyclefixation.com/prod_wool_knickers.html
The only thing I don't like about them is that they come only in black.
I also have a pair of the "Par 5"'s:
http://www.golfknickers.com/knickers.html
Bekologist
10-31-08, 01:57 PM
most military surplus knickers are
1) heavy; and
2) scratchy.
for better riding knicks, get to a thrift shop, and chop down some suitable wool pants found there.
Bob Ross
11-10-08, 01:07 PM
Personally, I like my Endura and Ibex knickers depending on use. Not so good for actual winter, though.
Was there anything specific about the Ibex that you found "not so good" or was that comment supposed to be about knickers in general being inappropriate for winter? (I.e., it would seem axiomatic that knickers are not warm enough for actual winter riding since they leave your calves exposed.)
I've been interested in getting a pair of knickers for cool autumn rides, & the Ibex look attractive enough, but I'm concerned that, like other Ibex products, they might be too warm for the type of weather I'd want them for (~40-50°F)
Glynis27
11-10-08, 01:19 PM
I wore the Italian surplus wool knickers all last year and loved them. I wore a very thin baselayer under them so my legs wouldn't itch, and knee-high wool socks. I was good down to 10*.
Was there anything specific about the Ibex that you found "not so good" or was that comment supposed to be about knickers in general being inappropriate for winter? (I.e., it would seem axiomatic that knickers are not warm enough for actual winter riding since they leave your calves exposed.)
I've been interested in getting a pair of knickers for cool autumn rides, & the Ibex look attractive enough, but I'm concerned that, like other Ibex products, they might be too warm for the type of weather I'd want them for (~40-50°F)
Knickers can work very well for cold winter rides when used in combination with cycling shorts underneath and cycling tights over long wool socks. You can have three layers over your thighs and two over the lower leg but the knee which is covered by the tight only can move freely. Yet the knee will stay warm if the rest of the leg is warm.
For $10 I'd give 'em a whirl. Personally, I like my Endura and Ibex knickers depending on use. Not so good for actual winter, though.
+1 Think I'll order myself a pair.
CastIron
11-12-08, 09:33 AM
Was there anything specific about the Ibex that you found "not so good" or was that comment supposed to be about knickers in general being inappropriate for winter? (I.e., it would seem axiomatic that knickers are not warm enough for actual winter riding since they leave your calves exposed.) BINGO. Much below ~40f you need full coverage, especially if you like warm feet.
I've been interested in getting a pair of knickers for cool autumn rides, PERFECT USE IME & the Ibex look attractive enough, but I'm concerned that, like other Ibex products, they might be too warm for the type of weather I'd want them for (~40-50°F)
Answered your own questions.
Knickers can work very well for cold winter rides when used in combination with cycling shorts underneath and cycling tights over long wool socks. You can have three layers over your thighs and two over the lower leg but the knee which is covered by the tight only can move freely. Yet the knee will stay warm if the rest of the leg is warm.
I'm confused, how does this layup schedule only cover the knee with one layer of fabric? Seems to me it is two layers over the knee.
You can wear a pair of bib shorts and a pair of these (http://www.coldlizard.com/cgi/wc.dll?GEKKO~catalog~DETAIL~34) on top, then the knee is only covered by one layer and, the layup is good to the teens.
I'm confused, how does this layup schedule only cover the knee with one layer of fabric? Seems to me it is two layers over the knee.
You can wear a pair of bib shorts and a pair of these (http://www.coldlizard.com/cgi/wc.dll?GEKKO~catalog~DETAIL~34) on top, then the knee is only covered by one layer and, the layup is good to the teens.
Well I guess it comes down to how long your knickers are and usually they are below the knee a bit. But some are just barely at the bottom of the knee. I was visualizing more modern non bike specific styles which are usually loose fitting and might be more like long shorts. Technically the knee is covered with a second layer but because it is so close to the knicker opening it is exposed to some air flow and is not full coverage. Unless of course you are using the older style that fasten around the leg below the knee.
Anyway, semantics aside, the method can work well if you use the loose fitting types because they don't bind the knee since there is no material gathered around the knee to restrict movement. The tight fitting older style of knickers will not work as well since they basically wrap the knee.
Something more like this is what I had in mind:
cabana 4 life
11-18-08, 11:00 PM
we just got pair of these to review. my friend ended up with them and totally digs them.
http://www.swobo.com/catalog/product_info_m.php?cPath=1141&products_id=758
Elkhound
11-19-08, 09:18 AM
we just got pair of these to review. my friend ended up with them and totally digs them.
http://www.swobo.com/catalog/product_info_m.php?cPath=1141&products_id=758
The only thing that I don't like about Swobo is that they are apparently under the impression that all cyclists are skinny. They don't make them in big-guy sizes.
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