Foo - Smokers..................blargh

Smokers......figh1. Yeah, they piss me off. If you wanna ruin your life by puffin on some plant, fine. But don't expose me to that same ****. If you wanna smoke, go smoke in your car with the windows rolled up. But for the love of whatever-higher-power-you-believe-in, STOP SMOKING AROUND ME!!!! They are outside of every single flippin building, puffin away like they own the place. I'm allergic to tobacco smoke. I start hacking uncontrollably after being exposed to tobacco smoke.

I think it's time to start carrying a good supply of water balloons around campus......:notamused:

It's not truly second hand smoke unless it's exchanged while french kissing.

Guess you'll need to start lobbying your state legislature to allow smoking in buildings again. Then all those smokers will smoke inside and won't bother you when you're riding.

I wouldn't kiss any girl, regardless of how hawt she is, if she smokes. I can't even stand sitting next to someone who smoke. I can smell it all over them and it makes me hack.

Smokers......figh1. Yeah, they piss me off. If you wanna ruin your life by puffin on some plant, fine. But don't expose me to that same ****. If you wanna smoke, go smoke in your car with the windows rolled up. But for the love of whatever-higher-power-you-believe-in, STOP SMOKING AROUND ME!!!! They are outside of every single flippin building, puffin away like they own the place. I'm allergic to tobacco smoke. I start hacking uncontrollably after being exposed to tobacco smoke.

I think it's time to start carrying a good supply of water balloons around campus......:notamused:

+10000000000000000000000

I get asthma fits when I inhale too much tobacco smoke. And boy, there are a LOT of smokers on campus, hanging around the entrances of buildings, even if the law states that you can't bloody smoke within 20ft of any building entrance and operable window (in CA anyway, dunno about other states).

Quite honestly, I'd like more enforcement of that law here. I understand people's need to get high on nicotine or whatever, but not when I get sick because of it.

I used to date a heavy smoker (he's European). Interesting how clueless he was about how bad the secondhand smoke:

- He thought I minded the smell, nothing else (it affected my sleep and appetite, not to mention the long-term effects)

- He thought it would be good enough if he went out on the balcony and shut the screen door but left the glass door open

- He thought (and I believe still thinks) that if he hangs out of the window in a non-smoking hotel room, nobody will notice.

Nasty stuff. I'm done with that. :rolleyes:

Guess you'll need to start lobbying your state legislature to allow smoking in buildings again. Then all those smokers will smoke inside and won't bother you when you're riding.

They don't bother me when I'm riding because I don't ride near any public buildings. Yes, believe it or not, there is a life other than cycling (say, getting an edumecation so I can get a good job so I get lots of $$ so I can buy lots of schwag) and the smokers are pissin me off.

Wear a gas mask and quit complaining.

Move to Bhutan. ;)

They are outside of every single flippin building, puffin away like they own the place. I'm allergic to tobacco smoke. I start hacking uncontrollably after being exposed to tobacco smoke.

I think it's time to start carrying a good supply of water balloons around campus......:notamused:

As a former smoker, let me weigh in on this one...

You've already driven them off the airplanes, out of restaurants, bars, pool halls, concert venues; oh, that's right: ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS. Now you're complaining that they're smoking where you told them to go: Outside.

It sucks that you're allergic to tobacco smoke, but quit ruining it for everyone who likes to smoke. You're whining as bad as the parents of kids with peanut allergies.

Wear a gas mask and quick complaining.

That's not a half bad idea.......except the water balloons get my point across much more clearly, especially as it gets cold.

it's not truly second hand smoke unless it's exchanged while french kissing.

yuck!!!!


I dated two girls that smoked, and I made out with the both of them. Tastes BLEH!!

As a former smoker, let me weigh in on this one...

You've already driven them off the airplanes, out of restaurants, bars, pool halls, concert venues; oh, that's right: ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS. Now you're complaining that they're smoking where you told them to go: Outside.

It sucks that you're allergic to tobacco smoke, but quit ruining it for everyone who likes to smoke. You're whining as bad as the parents of kids with peanut allergies.

How the heck does a peanut allergy relate to smoking? EVERYONE is affected by smokers. Peanut allergies only affect a small proportion of the population. That analogy makes no sense. I have every right to complain when smokers are endangering everyone's health.

And if you make the choice to smoke, then you accept that there are going to be consequences and limitations. YOU made the choice to smoke. Everyone else couldn't make the choice to immune to the affects of cig smoke.

yuck!!!!


I dated two girls that smoked, and I made out with the both of them. Tastes BLEH!!

Next time have them make out with each other...then watch. :innocent:

Next time have them make out with each other...then watch. :innocent:

Do you want to kill me?

:p

I have every right to complain when smokers are endangering everyone's health.
You do realize that the EPA report on second hand smoke, the one that all the anti-smoking legislation is based on, was a meta-analysis of existing studies in which they hand-picked the data that supported the conclusion that they made before the study even began, right?

Walking through cigarette smoke on your way into a building, while unpleasant for many, isn't endangering everyone's health.

I've never smoked nor had any desire to, yet cigarette smoke doesn't bother me at all. But old cigarettes left in a car smell horrible.

You do realize that the EPA report on second hand smoke, the one that all the anti-smoking legislation is based on, was a meta-analysis of existing studies in which they hand-picked the data that supported the conclusion that they made before the study even began, right?

Walking through cigarette smoke on your way into a building, while unpleasant for many, isn't endangering everyone's health.

Links? Solid sources?

So what you're saying is that the smoke that kills smokers has no effect on non-smokers? I'm calling a big BS on this one. It DOES have a negative effect on everyone.

That's not a half bad idea.......except the water balloons get my point across much more clearly, especially as it gets cold.I recommend that you try that.

Doing so will be hazardous to your health.

I recommend that you try that.

Doing so will be hazardous to your health.

But fighting is exercise :thumb:

Smokers......figh1. Yeah, they piss me off. If you wanna ruin your life by puffin on some plant, fine. But don't expose me to that same ****. If you wanna smoke, go smoke in your car with the windows rolled up. But for the love of whatever-higher-power-you-believe-in, STOP SMOKING AROUND ME!!!! They are outside of every single flippin building, puffin away like they own the place. I'm allergic to tobacco smoke. I start hacking uncontrollably after being exposed to tobacco smoke.

I think it's time to start carrying a good supply of water balloons around campus......:notamused:

it's public space. get over it.

How the heck does a peanut allergy relate to smoking? EVERYONE is affected by smokers. Peanut allergies only affect a small proportion of the population. That analogy makes no sense. I have every right to complain when smokers are endangering everyone's health.


You're allergic to cigarette smoke. You're not speaking for the health concerns of everyone on campus, you're complaining because you don't like walking past the crowd of smokers outside the doorway. You're rallying to force a group of people who have chosen a completely legal product into whatever encapsulated, isolated corral you've envisioned so you don't have to deal with their choice.

Peanuts are a lethal allergen to some children (about 2% of kids have at least a mild allergy to some type of nuts these days). Because of this, the other 98% of students at many schools are not allowed to bring in any food containing peanuts. No PB&J sandwiches. No Snickers. Not even a single peanut M&M.

Until you organize a campus group or circulate a petition, it's just you whining about the smokers. Same as the 1 kid with an allergy forcing the whole school to ban peanuts.

More and more cities around here (southern California) are outlawing smoking in outdoor public areas.

I put the fault on smokers. They have to realize by now that people don't care for smelling smoke. If they continue to smoke in areas frequented by non-smokers, the laws will just get more and more severe. They can show a little consideration, such as not congregate around office door entries.

I have to say this smoking is a choice like many other things in life, you cannot violate others choices. I am sorry you are allergic to the smoke, however in the state of ohio smokers have only one place to go to smoke, outside (not counting grandfathered in places). If you deem an individual is smoking to close(25 of 50ft, I can't recall) then report it to your local board of health, after x amounts of complaints they will investigate the offense and take action. This method will take awhile but it's the American way, slow.

Smokers......figh1. Yeah, they piss me off. If you wanna ruin your life by puffin on some plant, fine. But don't expose me to that same ****. If you wanna smoke, go smoke in your car with the windows rolled up. But for the love of whatever-higher-power-you-believe-in, STOP SMOKING AROUND ME!!!! They are outside of every single flippin building, puffin away like they own the place. I'm allergic to tobacco smoke. I start hacking uncontrollably after being exposed to tobacco smoke.

I think it's time to start carrying a good supply of water balloons around campus......:notamused:

I may have to start smoking again just for you! That way, I can just light up as I see you approaching from the rear and exhale just about the time you begin to pass me. BRILLIANT! :eek: :D

Links? Solid sources?

So what you're saying is that the smoke that kills smokers has no effect on non-smokers? I'm calling a big BS on this one. It DOES have a negative effect on everyone.
I have no idea what you would consider a solid source. But, if I found articles on the subject, you can too.

I'm not doing your research. But I will help you on the first step: http://www.google.com

I have no idea what you would consider a solid source. But, if I found articles on the subject, you can too.

I'm not doing your research. But I will help you on the first step: http://www.google.com

PubMed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/) is a better place to search. These will be peer-reviewed articles.

I may have to start smoking again just for you! That way, I can just light up as I see you approaching from the rear and exhale just about the time you begin to pass me. BRILLIANT! :eek: :D

I have a fire hose waiting just for you. I dare ya to try it. :notamused:

Farters......figh1. Yeah, they piss me off. If you wanna ruin your life by passin on some gas, fine. But don't expose me to that same ****. If you wanna let one fly, go fart in your car with the windows rolled up. But for the love of whatever-higher-power-you-believe-in, STOP FARTING AROUND ME!!!! They are outside of every single flippin building, fartin away like they own the place. I'm allergic to methane. I start gagging uncontrollably after being exposed to really ripe ones.

I think it's time to start carrying a good supply of Beano around campus......:notamused:

Fixed.

Fixed.

:roflmao2::lol:

Fixed.

Bwahaha! :lol:

I'd support a "no public farting" initiative. Somebody was crop dusting the office yesterday, and I thought it was going to melt my contacts at one point. :cry: It was horrible.

it's public space. get over it.

How about urinating in public? Is that cool too?

Smoking is one of the most obnoxious things you can do around other (non-smoking) people, and contrary to what smokers think, it's not because we have a hard on for giving them a hard time. It's because the cigarette smoke is truly obnoxious. I can smell it outdoors a good thirty feet away. Any closer and it starts to really irritate me.

I sometimes think about carrying around a spray bottle filled with an ammonia solution that I can spray in the faces of people smoking around others. Then they can see how it feels to have a chemical irritant forced upon them by a stranger.

Another thing that blows my mind is why it's okay to just toss a cigarette butt on the ground when you're through with it. The streets and sidewalks are littered with cigarette butts. Friggin' savages.

How about urinating in public? Is that cool too?

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how in the frak is that at all relevant to the topic at hand?


Smoking is one of the most obnoxious things you can do around other (non-smoking) people,

incorrect.


and contrary to what smokers think, it's not because we have a hard on for giving them a hard time. It's because the cigarette smoke is truly obnoxious. I can smell it outdoors a good thirty feet away. Any closer and it starts to really irritate me.

i feel your pain.


I sometimes think about carrying around a spray bottle filled with an ammonia solution that I can spray in the faces of people smoking around others.

passive aggressive idiots rule.


Then they can see how it feels to have a chemical irritant forced upon them by a stranger.

yeah, because passive smoke on the street is the same thing as getting chemical solvenst sprayed into your face.

you're an idiot.


Another thing that blows my mind is why it's okay to just toss a cigarette butt on the ground when you're through with it. The streets and sidewalks are littered with cigarette butts. Friggin' savages.

Those savages, they're almost as bad as those ****wits who want to spray chemicals into peoples faces.

Get over yourself.

How about urinating in public? Is that cool too?

No. That's illegal. Although on every organized ride I attend, the legality issue doesn't stop a whole lot of riders from pulling off to the roadside and having a whiz in the shrubs even though there's port-o-lets provided every 15 miles.



Another thing that blows my mind is why it's okay to just toss a cigarette butt on the ground when you're through with it. The streets and sidewalks are littered with cigarette butts. Friggin' savages

I used to throw mine on the ground, but I handrolled filterless (or bought Luckys). A quick twist underfoot, and there was nothing recognizable as a cigarette butt, and the tiny bit of paper and tobacco are biodegradable. I never did understand why people think it's OK to just toss their still smoldering butts on the sidewalk or (even worse) out their car window. The filter isn't going to biodegrade any time soon, and it's a fire hazard!

I have a fire hose waiting just for you. I dare ya to try it. :notamused:

If you are gonna carry that fire hose on every ride/race, my job here is done. :D

I quit over a year ago and hate the smell now. But I still let people smoke at my place on poker night and if a chick smokes and she's hot I will live with it... Smoking in the car is not allowed.

If you are gonna carry that fire hose on every ride/race, my job here is done. :D

nope. I've gotten the Northfield Fire Dpt. to have a tanker follow me on my rides. All I have to do is point out the person I want to get wet and they'll unleash their full fury on that individual.

Aaahhh THe great smoker's debate.

Wow.. lots of complaining. Everyone seems like they deserve so much. And then no-one thinks they should be told what to do.

HTFU! or stay home in your sanitized bubble.

I have to say this smoking is a choice like many other things in life, you cannot violate others choices.
Uhhh, it's a choice, as you said, but not a right.

Is the need for clean air a choice? No, it's not even a right--it's a necessity. You can't violate a basic need to stay alive.

My favorite types are the smokers who don't want the smell in their own car, so they hang their arm out the window and the vents in my car suck it in.

:twitchy:

how in the frak is that at all relevant to the topic at hand?

Because both urine and cigarette smoke are obnoxious to the senses.


yeah, because passive smoke on the street is the same thing as getting chemical solvenst sprayed into your face.

Pretty much, yeah.


Those savages, they're almost as bad as those ****wits who want to spray chemicals into peoples faces.

You mean like those cigarette smokers who light up on crowded busy streets?

If there is a sign posted, then please don't smoke. If there's no sign, then go for it. I have no problem moving or taking my business elsewhere. :)

That being said, smoking is the single biggest turn off for me when it comes to t3h ladies.

I used to smoke, back when it wasn't considered a near-criminal act.

When I was in the Marines, I shared a room with two other Marines at Camp Pendleton, and they didn't smoke, and they asked politely if I would mind not smoking in the room, so we put up a No Smoking sign, and I quit smoking in the room.

I also have a minor issue with inconsiderate outside smokers. I think if someone is smoking they should be somewhat cognizant of anyone within about 10 feet of them, as this is a reasonable distance to try to maintain for the sake of others.

A face full of smoke while outside is actually more irritating than a waft of smoke from a neighboring cubicle used to be... Gosh, I can hardly even remember when smoking was part of my workplace. It has probably been more than 15 years now... And in the places I have been, they have also been clear about creating a smoke free area outside the door.

However at a local community college, I was disappointed at the lack of ability to follow the rules. There were designated shelters for smokers, with signs that stated that smoking on campus was allowed only in designated areas, but at least on the weekends (when I took classes) the smokers congregated right outside of the doors... right next to the signs saying "No Smoking except in designated smoking areas" :wtf:

Because both urine and cigarette smoke are obnoxious to the senses.



Pretty much, yeah.



You mean like those cigarette smokers who light up on crowded busy streets?

christ, you really are a ****ing moron.

bye bye.

Uhhh, it's a choice, as you said, but not a right.

Is the need for clean air a choice? No, it's not even a right--it's a necessity. You can't violate a basic need to stay alive.

Sure you can. Just ask any CEO of a majour corporation which purchases carbon offset credits. If you've got enough money, you can buy the right to pollute as much as you want.

Is the need for clean air a choice? No, it's not even a right--it's a necessity. You can't violate a basic need to stay alive.

I completely agree. I also hate car and truck exhaust. It most definitely has a much more negative impact on our health than smokers do. I hate exhaust!!!! My favorite are those people who drive cars that burn gas! Our gov't should really do something about that travesty.

And get this I was just watching PBS Frontline they did a show called "Heat". Turns out 50% of our country's electricity is produced by burning coal. That can't be good for my lungs! Now I hate electricity! I vote we ban it! Call your congressman!

I think I'm going to just get Gills implanted so I can breath underwater..... Oh wait. The planet's water is pretty ***ed up too! Damn, now what?

Eh, I think I'll just HTFU and go ride my bike. ;) I suggest the same, life is more fun that way.

I wouldn't mind it so much if the smoker's wern't RIGHT AT THE DOOR. If they would move out away from the buildings, it would make it much easier for me to avoid them. I could walk outside of the "circle of fumes" and make my way to classes without getting hit with tobacco. But they stand right outside the entrance, I have to walk through their noxious fumes. At least be a little considerate and go smoke away from entrances.

I used to have a college professor who would get up in the middle of a lecture and leave the classroom if he thought he smelled smoke. Nobody else would be able to smell it, but he would insist and then spend the next 10-20 minutes hunting the person down. He would always talk about how he couldn't breath or see around smoke. Watching him chase down a guy outside, 300 yards away on the campus was hilarious.

If you have some medical condition that makes you super-sensitive to smoke and want people to take that into account, then I guess you are out of luck in a public place. Going through a bit of smoke is not going to hurt you one bit. It is smoking or being trapped in a smoke cloud for hours, daily, for years that will hurt you.

In summation, HTFU!

Is it in Maine where if they catch you smoking in a car you can be murdered on the spot?

Smoking is bad for me, fine. I get it. I won't partake of it.
But it shouldn't be banned everywhere we want to go. Soon we will be told not to smoke in our own homes. In our backyards.

I completely agree. I also hate car and truck exhaust. It most definitely has a much more negative impact on our health than smokers do. I hate exhaust!!!! My favorite are those people who drive cars that burn gas! Our gov't should really do something about that travesty.

And get this I was just watching PBS Frontline they did a show called "Heat". Turns out 50% of our country's electricity is produced by burning coal. That can't be good for my lungs! Now I hate electricity! I vote we ban it! Call your congressman!

I think I'm going to just get Gills implanted so I can breath underwater..... Oh wait. The planet's water is pretty ***ed up too! Damn, now what?

Eh, I think I'll just HTFU and go ride my bike. ;) I suggest the same, life is more fun that way.

+1000

Stop driving or you have no right to complain. We fight for the rights of workers in bars to not breath the smoke but what about parking attendants in garages? Why is looking out for their health?