Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - New here - need help on what and where to buy

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mikesixty4
10-29-08, 03:06 PM
Hello all,

I am 5'11'' and to say I am overweight would probably be an understatement. Now I have used every excuse in the book as to why I don't currently exercise and why I don't need to but I decided to buy a scale after I received an email from my father stating how concerned he was about my weight. I was completely shocked to see that I weighed 300 pounds. I decided that there are no more excuses and I need to start exercising so I started walking each morning for an hour and now lift 3 times a week.

2 months later, I now weigh 287 pounds and have been feeling great but I am quickly getting bored of walking and never really liked it to begin with. Now as a kid one of my favorite pastimes was just riding my bike. So I figure what better way to exercise then to buy a bike. I love the outdoors and nature so most likely I will eventually want to buy a mountain bike as I see that being what I will really want to do.

For now though I think the best thing for me is to buy a hybrid bike of some sort for just daily exercise. and hitting the easy gravel-dirt trails on the weekend. Have been searching the forums for the past few days and I think I might have gotten my decision down between the Giant Cypress DX or the Giant Sedona DX. I was wondering what people think about these two mikes that have either owned or rode one of them?

Also, I currently live in Owings Mills, MD and was wondering if anyone knew of a good shop that I would be able to goto that would love to help out a beginner? Also for anyone who lives in the area, Are there any really good trails in the area to ride on? I am not looking for anything advanced...I know about the NCR Trail and that will most likely be something I will start doing on the weekend but I am looking for something a little more close to where I live where I can ride in the morning.

Thanks for any help that you can give I really appreciate it and sorry for the long post.


CACycling
10-29-08, 04:01 PM
It sounds like you're off to a good start and cycling can definately help you along with boredom-free weight loss. I'd suggest a non-suspension mountain bike as a good place to sart. With your weight, any shocks will just bottom out and add weight (like you need more of that ;) ). You can change the knobbies out for road slicks to make it more street-friendly. Keep it up and the miles will fly by as the weight drops off.

lbear
10-29-08, 04:30 PM
I was at the same point you are a little over a year ago. A had walked my way from 285 to 250 and got stuck there for 2 years. Then about a year ago a bought a Giant Cypress DX.It saved my life. It took some effort on my part but I lost another 65lbs cycling. Its been great! Biking is the perfect exercise to lose weight.
The Cypress was a good bike for me to start on. I would disagree with CACycling about the non-suspension bike. When you weigh +250 the suspension on the Cypress helps reduce shocks to your body.
However as you lose weight you may end up on a road bike.
Whatever you get just ride as much as you can. At first it will it will be can do to go 3 miles. Sooner then think 15 miles will be a short trip.


Bone Head
10-29-08, 04:59 PM
First, Welcome and Congrats on your success to date. :thumb:

FWIW, go out and test ride, test ride, and test ride some more. Get the bike that seduces you. If you love it :love: , you'll ride it :speedy: .

just my $0.02 ..............

Mr. Beanz
10-29-08, 05:21 PM
I'm about 245 and ride a roadie no problem, even with the 700 X 23 tires. If you'e on it for weight loss, I'd say go roadie. You'll do longer rides. Short rides on a heavy bike are less aerobic compared to doing 100 on a roadie.

Hybrids are cool for short rides. Roaides are great for handposition options contrary to what most beginners believe. Get a roadie and a good strong back wheel.

Losing weight means pushing yourself past limits, effort , distance etc.

I have see some rides kick butt on a hybrid but most end up wanting a roadie in the end. Cut out the middleman!:D

cliffbatson
10-29-08, 05:50 PM
First off, congrats on deciding to get started... and for the success you've already had! I'm dieting and riding and it's working for me. I feel much better and look better than I did 3 months ago when I started riding again. (I'm 5' 10" and weigh 224 at this time)

My suggestion is to get a heart monitor wristwatch. Wear the strap around your chest for a while when you start riding to make sure you don't overdo it. I've found that it's easy for me to push myself too hard without realizing it. Rather than riding too hard and wearing yourself out quickly, back off a little and make it a goal to ride longer with a strong but reasonable heart rate.

Keep us posted on what you decide to buy and how you're doing!

Best,
Cliff

mikesixty4
10-29-08, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I am curious though, why would I want to go with a Road Bike?
While losing weight is one of the primary reasons I want to buy a bike its not the only reason.
Another reason is to be able to go off road on trails. From what I understand road bikes are not great off road.

Also why is a road bike better for exercise then any other bike?
Now this is probably just my lack of experience here but I would think that I will work equally hard on any bike. I understand I could go faster on a road bike but I am not sure speed is what I am going for. I have never been a big fan of road bike handlbars either.

From what I have been researching, it appears as though hybrid bikes are also cheaper then either a pure road bike or a pure mountain bike. I could buy a hybrid cheaper and after that find out which I prefer more either road or mountain.

lbear
10-29-08, 06:00 PM
Losing weight means pushing yourself past limits, effort , distance etc.


1+ Mr.Beanz
Except I might play down effort (speed) and play up distance to start with.
For me I found that a half hour ride a day is only a break even point. I really did not start losing weight until a started doing about an hour a day.
What ever bike you start with get one that enjoy riding.

10 Wheels
10-29-08, 06:01 PM
Any bike will work to start with.
Most of us started on mountain type bikes.
Enjoy your rides.
Bike riding is 10% Bike - 90 % motor.
You are the motor.

mikesixty4
10-29-08, 06:14 PM
I currently walk an hour a day and plan to ride an hour a day as well.
During the weekends though I will be looking to go off road on trails. The plan is to hit the NCR trail in Maryland. It is an old railroad that was turned into a really nice trail for walking or riding. I believe the trail is around 20 miles one way. The goal is me eventually being able to complete that both ways.

One day I would like to eventually be able to ride Skyline Drive in Shenandoah but that is a long ways away and I know that would definetly require a road bike.

Who knows eventually I may have a bike for every occasion though.

Does anyone live in or near Owings Mills MD that would have a good recommendation as to what local shop to go to for help and to buy?

10 Wheels
10-29-08, 06:18 PM
That trail sounds nice for riding.
Go slow.
You will get stronger each week.

lbear
10-29-08, 06:26 PM
Also why is a road bike better for exercise then any other bike?
Now this is probably just my lack of experience here but I would think that I will work equally hard on any bike. I understand I could go faster on a road bike but I am not sure speed is what I am going for. I have never been a big fan of road bike handlbars either.

I found a road bike better (and I started on a Hybrid) because:

1) I ride more on road then off. Roads are everywhere no excuses for not riding.

2) "Faster" means further. Longer rides are more fun.

3) Road handlebars have more hand positions hoods, ramps, corners, tops and drops. You do not have to use the drops. Longer rides can really hurt with only one or two hand positions.

4) You really do not want to "work equally hard" on your bike. You want to love riding it. The exercise is just a wonderful side effect. Riding needs to become a life style change.

longbeachgary
10-29-08, 06:34 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I am curious though, why would I want to go with a Road Bike?
While losing weight is one of the primary reasons I want to buy a bike its not the only reason.
Another reason is to be able to go off road on trails. From what I understand road bikes are not great off road.

Also why is a road bike better for exercise then any other bike?
Now this is probably just my lack of experience here but I would think that I will work equally hard on any bike. I understand I could go faster on a road bike but I am not sure speed is what I am going for. I have never been a big fan of road bike handlbars either.

From what I have been researching, it appears as though hybrid bikes are also cheaper then either a pure road bike or a pure mountain bike. I could buy a hybrid cheaper and after that find out which I prefer more either road or mountain.

Dude, don't overthink this - get a bike (any bike) and get yourself on it as soon as possible. When you want something else, pass on your current bike. That's all there is to it.

epcolt
10-29-08, 06:59 PM
Welcome. When I am in your area I found these people really helpful at the Columbia store.
http://racepacebicycles.com/

txvintage
10-29-08, 07:28 PM
I've never really been a big hybrid fan, always road for me. that being said, all the pic post from the members out East with the trail systems available to them have changed my mind.

If I had a trail system to ride like what seems to be prevalent in that area, I would not hesitate to get hybrid. Well, maybe a Cross bike, but the economics between the two make a hybrid much more feasible.

I will say I support the non suspended idea. Unless you are planning on racing off road, the suspension adds weight to the bike, adds another area of maintenance, and seems to add more effort to riding.

Congrats on your success thus far, and best of luck in your bike search. The test ride approach is best. the more bikes you try, the more likely you are to find a bike you really like rather than settling on one. Keep in mind that the you are buying the shop as much as the bike. A few dollars more for the bike from a shop that makes you feel welcome and is willing to work with you on maintenance and warranty issues is a good investment.

dbikingman
10-29-08, 07:53 PM
misty I would say skip the hybrid and buy a used MTB. Find one used that fits and is decent shape and as cheap as you can find. You can find a good deal on a used MTB easier then on a road bike. I rode my MTB for a long time figuring an hour ride was an hour of effort, I wasn't going anywhere in particular so it didn't matter how fast I was going. I enjoy my road bike and go faster and further then on MTB. Last week I did a 3 hour ride on my MTB it was a blast more fun then I had on my road bike in a long time.

Then you can add to your bike collection as you get in shape and have a feel for your riding, adding a road bike down the road will give you options down the road.

mikesixty4
10-29-08, 08:21 PM
I just wanted to thank everyone again for all your help I really appreciate it. It sounds like the best thing for me to do right now is to test some bikes out before I make any real decision.

I have a few other questions though...

I have a 2006 XB, what is the best option to carry the bike around?
Is it better to put it on top or buy a hitch and get a rack for the back?

Also for the really cold days I will most likely be riding inside the house as I would rather get some form of exercise then none at all...what would be a good trainer to get?

Condorita
10-29-08, 08:40 PM
I love my Cypress.

bbeck
10-29-08, 08:46 PM
just to ad my vote.

i bought a raleigh mountain bike first and found that it did ok on the road but it was hard to enjoy being of road i was 350# then. i rode a few road bikes and found i could go farther and climb hilly roads better. well the raleigh was stolen a few months ago and after some savings i bought a specialized sequoia and love it i wish i would have bought this one first.

good luck

Wogster
10-29-08, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I am curious though, why would I want to go with a Road Bike?
While losing weight is one of the primary reasons I want to buy a bike its not the only reason.
Another reason is to be able to go off road on trails. From what I understand road bikes are not great off road.

Also why is a road bike better for exercise then any other bike?
Now this is probably just my lack of experience here but I would think that I will work equally hard on any bike. I understand I could go faster on a road bike but I am not sure speed is what I am going for. I have never been a big fan of road bike handlbars either.

From what I have been researching, it appears as though hybrid bikes are also cheaper then either a pure road bike or a pure mountain bike. I could buy a hybrid cheaper and after that find out which I prefer more either road or mountain.

You might find a cyclocross bike a better cross between road and trail. The big advantage to road bars is that you have a lot more places for your hands, top of the bars, the hoods, front of the drop, bottom of the drop, top of the hooks. Flat bars tend to have one position, which is fine for short rides, and most trail rides are fairly short, but that one position is hard to maintain over longer distances.

Cyclocross bikes use cyclocross tires, often they are smooth in the middle, with knobby sides, and tend to be wider then pure road tires. This is not as good on the road as a pure road bike, and not as good off road is a pure mountain bike, but is better at both then a hybrid.

Neil_B
10-30-08, 05:11 AM
Hello all,

I am 5'11'' and to say I am overweight would probably be an understatement. Now I have used every excuse in the book as to why I don't currently exercise and why I don't need to but I decided to buy a scale after I received an email from my father stating how concerned he was about my weight. I was completely shocked to see that I weighed 300 pounds. I decided that there are no more excuses and I need to start exercising so I started walking each morning for an hour and now lift 3 times a week.

2 months later, I now weigh 287 pounds and have been feeling great but I am quickly getting bored of walking and never really liked it to begin with. Now as a kid one of my favorite pastimes was just riding my bike. So I figure what better way to exercise then to buy a bike. I love the outdoors and nature so most likely I will eventually want to buy a mountain bike as I see that being what I will really want to do.

For now though I think the best thing for me is to buy a hybrid bike of some sort for just daily exercise. and hitting the easy gravel-dirt trails on the weekend. Have been searching the forums for the past few days and I think I might have gotten my decision down between the Giant Cypress DX or the Giant Sedona DX. I was wondering what people think about these two mikes that have either owned or rode one of them?

Also, I currently live in Owings Mills, MD and was wondering if anyone knew of a good shop that I would be able to goto that would love to help out a beginner? Also for anyone who lives in the area, Are there any really good trails in the area to ride on? I am not looking for anything advanced...I know about the NCR Trail and that will most likely be something I will start doing on the weekend but I am looking for something a little more close to where I live where I can ride in the morning.

Thanks for any help that you can give I really appreciate it and sorry for the long post.

No need to apologize. Welcome to the forum, and if you want someone to join you on the NCR trail, contact me. I've wanted to ride that trail for a long time. I'm in SE PA, 30 miles west of Philadelphia.

wrk101
10-30-08, 06:09 AM
+1 Skip the hybrid, and get yourself a used rigid frame mountain bike. Should be able to get a good one for about $100.

If you want more hand positions (and you will eventually), add trekking handlebars. They can be found at Nashbar for about $20.

Recognize that if you really get into riding, this will just be the first of several bikes you will own. So its not a long term commitment. And any bike you buy now will likely not be the bike you will want a year from now. So save some bucks for the next bike purchase, when you will know exactly what you want at that point.

gearhead82
10-30-08, 07:10 AM
I didn't see anyone mention possibly purchasing a used bike to start out with. You can check craigslist or Ebay. A couple hundred bucks could get you a nice used bike that you can try out for awhile. If you don't like it, you can probably get most of your money back out of it and try something else. I have a Trek 6500 MTB that I love, but my hands are not happy for anything more than 20 minutes with the flat handlebars. I eventually decided to get a road bike and LOVE it.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 08:28 AM
No need to apologize. Welcome to the forum, and if you want someone to join you on the NCR trail, contact me. I've wanted to ride that trail for a long time. I'm in SE PA, 30 miles west of Philadelphia.

Sounds like a plan. It is going to at least until early spring next year before I start riding there.
I need to get my stamina up and buy the proper equipment for my car to get my bike there.

I have also read about another rail to trail in Western Maryland: Rail to Trail (http://www.traillink.com/ViewTrail.aspx?AcctID=6016073)

I Found this one as well which I guess you could say would be my everest: C&O Cancel (http://bikewashington.org/canal/canal_m.php)
The C&O Canel is 184 miles long going from Washing DC to Pittsburgh PA.
Although I am a long ways away from being able to do this, it is exactly what I am looking to be able to do.

TechKnowGN
10-30-08, 10:29 AM
I didn't see anyone mention possibly purchasing a used bike to start out with. You can check craigslist or Ebay. A couple hundred bucks could get you a nice used bike that you can try out for awhile. If you don't like it, you can probably get most of your money back out of it and try something else. I have a Trek 6500 MTB that I love, but my hands are not happy for anything more than 20 minutes with the flat handlebars. I eventually decided to get a road bike and LOVE it.

+1. I have a Trek 800 (circa 1993) that I love and works great for short commute (10 miles round trip). I need horns for the flat handlebar, but otherwise it's a great starter bike. It's heavier than a lot of other bikes, but it's steel and a good way to start for a 300+ lb person like ourselves.

Neil_B
10-30-08, 10:44 AM
Sounds like a plan. It is going to at least until early spring next year before I start riding there.
I need to get my stamina up and buy the proper equipment for my car to get my bike there.

I have also read about another rail to trail in Western Maryland: Rail to Trail (http://www.traillink.com/ViewTrail.aspx?AcctID=6016073)

I Found this one as well which I guess you could say would be my everest: C&O Cancel (http://bikewashington.org/canal/canal_m.php)
The C&O Canel is 184 miles long going from Washing DC to Pittsburgh PA.
Although I am a long ways away from being able to do this, it is exactly what I am looking to be able to do.

You will be surprised how quickly you develop stamina. In less than two years I went from being wiped out after seven minutes on a recumbent stationary bike to riding a century - 100 mile ride. The last ten months of that were spent learning to ride a bike - I'd never learned as a child. BTW, I'm 42, overweight, and structurally a wreck. I'm sure you will be OK.

The C & O Canal Towpath runs from DC to Cumberland, MD. The Great Allegheny Passage is another 150 miles to near Pittsburgh. If we hit it off on the NCR, perhaps we could ride the Passage/C & O. I'd love to do it again.

But regardless of how, when, and with whom you ride it, I hope you feel as happy about completing the trip as I do in this photo at Milepost 0:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2795605057_bcea8fcbe3_b.jpg

dbikingman
10-30-08, 10:48 AM
I just wanted to thank everyone again for all your help I really appreciate it. It sounds like the best thing for me to do right now is to test some bikes out before I make any real decision.

I have a few other questions though...

I have a 2006 XB, what is the best option to carry the bike around?
Is it better to put it on top or buy a hitch and get a rack for the back?

Also for the really cold days I will most likely be riding inside the house as I would rather get some form of exercise then none at all...what would be a good trainer to get?

If I had a hitch, I would get a hitch mounted rack for the ease of mounting the rack. Between a roof rack and a rack on the back depends. If you drive a tall vehicle, like a SUV, then the roof rack would be difficult to reach. If you drive in traffic then the roof rack keeps the car narrower, do you park in a garage then you have to remove bikes before entering the garage:twitchy: Mounting on the back is easy but you can overhang that creates problems if your drive in tight traffic. So those are some options to consider.

As for a trainer I don't have any recommendations. Do a search on here and you should find a bunch of information. I have heard the magnetic trainers are quiter then fluid trainers. If you look at rollers some like those because the make you work on balance and pedal stroke. I had one person say to get a trainer that puts pressure on the rim and not the tire, so you don't wear out tires.

Barrettscv
10-30-08, 11:16 AM
I was at the same point you are a little over a year ago. A had walked my way from 285 to 250 and got stuck there for 2 years. Then about a year ago a bought a Giant Cypress DX.It saved my life. It took some effort on my part but I lost another 65lbs cycling. Its been great! Biking is the perfect exercise to lose weight.
The Cypress was a good bike for me to start on. I would disagree with CACycling about the non-suspension bike. When you weigh +250 the suspension on the Cypress helps reduce shocks to your body.
However as you lose weight you may end up on a road bike.
Whatever you get just ride as much as you can. At first it will it will be can do to go 3 miles. Sooner then think 15 miles will be a short trip.


Another vote for the Giant Cypress. I don't think there is a better bike for the money. I put 1200 miles on mine in 4 months and have had zero issues. I did change the rear wheel to a 29er type with Mavic a319 rims for a little extra strength. 2/3 of your weight will be on the back wheel. I also upgraded to Kevlar puncture resistant tires and have had zero flats.

Another bike to consider is the Kona Smoke.

Michael

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 01:08 PM
You will be surprised how quickly you develop stamina. In less than two years I went from being wiped out after seven minutes on a recumbent stationary bike to riding a century - 100 mile ride. The last ten months of that were spent learning to ride a bike - I'd never learned as a child. BTW, I'm 42, overweight, and structurally a wreck. I'm sure you will be OK.

The C & O Canal Towpath runs from DC to Cumberland, MD. The Great Allegheny Passage is another 150 miles to near Pittsburgh. If we hit it off on the NCR, perhaps we could ride the Passage/C & O. I'd love to do it again.

But regardless of how, when, and with whom you ride it, I hope you feel as happy about completing the trip as I do in this photo at Milepost 0:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2795605057_bcea8fcbe3_b.jpg

I wasn't to sure about all the information about the C & O Canal Towpath I just read about it this morning for a few minutes before leaving for work and it sounded like a great trip to take.

When I was in high school I weighed between 250-270 range and I was able to do an hour on an exercise bike with no problems and I was usually pushing pretty hard. I can't imagine I would be able to do that right now but I will certainly try.

It definetly sounds like I will be hitting you up a lot for information on some nice rides in the area.

Thanks for the help.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 01:15 PM
If I had a hitch, I would get a hitch mounted rack for the ease of mounting the rack. Between a roof rack and a rack on the back depends. If you drive a tall vehicle, like a SUV, then the roof rack would be difficult to reach. If you drive in traffic then the roof rack keeps the car narrower, do you park in a garage then you have to remove bikes before entering the garage:twitchy: Mounting on the back is easy but you can overhang that creates problems if your drive in tight traffic. So those are some options to consider.

As for a trainer I don't have any recommendations. Do a search on here and you should find a bunch of information. I have heard the magnetic trainers are quiter then fluid trainers. If you look at rollers some like those because the make you work on balance and pedal stroke. I had one person say to get a trainer that puts pressure on the rim and not the tire, so you don't wear out tires.

Thanks for the info i really appreciate it. my car is a 2006 scion XB. I am not sure if you are familiar with them or not but they are the box scaped looking cars...taller then cars but smaller then SUV's.

My father spoke with his boss who happens to ride moutain bikes and he suggested getting a roof rack. I don't have a roof rack or a hitch so I am going to have to spend some money either way. XB's are not very wide so I am a little concerned about the overhang on the sides which is something I was thinking about before.

Whatever I buy however I need to make sure it will work with future XB's as I plan on buying a new one in about 2 years.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 01:19 PM
Another vote for the Giant Cypress. I don't think there is a better bike for the money. I put 1200 miles on mine in 4 months and have had zero issues. I did change the rear wheel to a 29er type with Mavic a319 rims for a little extra strength. 2/3 of your weight will be on the back wheel. I also upgraded to Kevlar puncture resistant tires and have had zero flats.

Another bike to consider is the Kona Smoke.

Michael


You might have given me another one to think about as I like the look of the Kona Smoke and it is a little cheaper then the Cypress DX.

I have a question maybe your or someone else can answer, now I don't know if you would have any information on this or not but I consider myself an amateur photographer and I was wondering what are the best ways to carry a digital SLR and all the equipment on some trips?

Condorita
10-30-08, 01:38 PM
Trunk. If it's a lot of equipment, trunk and panniers. And never ever let the equipment out of your sight.

little cheaper then the thAn, dammit, thAn. It's alternative, not sequence!

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 01:54 PM
Trunk. If it's a lot of equipment, trunk and panniers. And never ever let the equipment out of your sight.
thAn, dammit, thAn. It's alternative, not sequence!

LOL...sigh, every forum always has someone like you. :)
You know you and my uncle would have gotten along rather nicely.
He was famous for correcting people.

lutz
10-30-08, 02:03 PM
I would get a bike without suspension fork or other nonsense. In this priceclass these parts are lowest quality, not adjustable for clyde weights, they are superfluous anyhow, they will break, they make the bike heavier than necessary and even harder to maneuver.
Suspension parts are "predetermined breaking points" and only make the bike dealers and industry happy in the long run. You are much better off with some wide slick tires; these provide all the suspension that is needed.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 02:57 PM
I would get a bike without suspension fork or other nonsense. In this priceclass these parts are lowest quality, not adjustable for clyde weights, they are superfluous anyhow, they will break, they make the bike heavier than necessary and even harder to maneuver.
Suspension parts are "predetermined breaking points" and only make the bike dealers and industry happy in the long run. You are much better off with some wide slick tires; these provide all the suspension that is needed.

Thanks for the info, I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for and I haven't really considered the quality of the parts on these bikes. I am going to a few local bike shops tomorrow to look at my options and find the best bike to fit me.

dcrowell
10-30-08, 03:42 PM
Welcome Mike!

I started my weight loss at 300 lbs about a year ago. I bought a bike in April. It was the low-end Giant Cypress ST. I was about 260 lbs when I bought the bike, and ended up replacing the rear wheel with a better quality one to handle the load. The only suspension on the bike is the seatpost, and I'm considering removing that.

I've since bought a recumbent, but I still ride the Giant.

Finding time to ride was problematic, so I ended up parking a few miles from work, and riding the bike from there. That eventually led to me riding the entire 33 mile round-trip a few days a week, and hanging out in the commuting forum. :)

I don't know what your budget is. I've spent a lot of money on bike stuff this year. If your budget is limited, a good used bike is probably best.

Just remember, the weight loss and biking is a life-long change, and worth every bit of it.



Hello all,

I am 5'11'' and to say I am overweight would probably be an understatement. Now I have used every excuse in the book as to why I don't currently exercise and why I don't need to but I decided to buy a scale after I received an email from my father stating how concerned he was about my weight. I was completely shocked to see that I weighed 300 pounds. I decided that there are no more excuses and I need to start exercising so I started walking each morning for an hour and now lift 3 times a week.

2 months later, I now weigh 287 pounds and have been feeling great but I am quickly getting bored of walking and never really liked it to begin with. Now as a kid one of my favorite pastimes was just riding my bike. So I figure what better way to exercise then to buy a bike. I love the outdoors and nature so most likely I will eventually want to buy a mountain bike as I see that being what I will really want to do.

For now though I think the best thing for me is to buy a hybrid bike of some sort for just daily exercise. and hitting the easy gravel-dirt trails on the weekend. Have been searching the forums for the past few days and I think I might have gotten my decision down between the Giant Cypress DX or the Giant Sedona DX. I was wondering what people think about these two mikes that have either owned or rode one of them?

Also, I currently live in Owings Mills, MD and was wondering if anyone knew of a good shop that I would be able to goto that would love to help out a beginner? Also for anyone who lives in the area, Are there any really good trails in the area to ride on? I am not looking for anything advanced...I know about the NCR Trail and that will most likely be something I will start doing on the weekend but I am looking for something a little more close to where I live where I can ride in the morning.

Thanks for any help that you can give I really appreciate it and sorry for the long post.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 04:03 PM
Welcome Mike!

I started my weight loss at 300 lbs about a year ago. I bought a bike in April. It was the low-end Giant Cypress ST. I was about 260 lbs when I bought the bike, and ended up replacing the rear wheel with a better quality one to handle the load. The only suspension on the bike is the seatpost, and I'm considering removing that.

I've since bought a recumbent, but I still ride the Giant.

Finding time to ride was problematic, so I ended up parking a few miles from work, and riding the bike from there. That eventually led to me riding the entire 33 mile round-trip a few days a week, and hanging out in the commuting forum. :)

I don't know what your budget is. I've spent a lot of money on bike stuff this year. If your budget is limited, a good used bike is probably best.

Just remember, the weight loss and biking is a life-long change, and worth every bit of it.

I am not worried about price all that much. I don't want to spend more then 1000 for everything I am going to get but if it requires more then I will probably spend it. I am more worried about just getting what is right for me.

CACycling
10-30-08, 04:35 PM
I am not worried about price all that much. I don't want to spend more then 1000 for everything I am going to get but if it requires more then I will probably spend it. I am more worried about just getting what is right for me.

I think what a lot of people here will tell you is that your first bike (and maybe even your second one) will get you out there and riding and will also point you toward your next bike. I started back on an old $40 MTB and was saving up to buy a new MTB (even had one picked out) then I discovered road bikes (an old Schwinn I got for free).

After spending some time on the road bike, I gave up on getting a new MTB and bought a new road bike. 6 months later, I'm saving for my "ideal" road bike. Each bike has served its purpose well (still have them all and don't plan on parting with them even when #4 gets purchased) and helped me decide what I really wanted. A year ago, I would have never considered paying $1,500+ for a bike and would not have even considered a road bike but, here I am.

If you keep riding, you will most likely change your opinion on what is the perfect bike for you (or even if one bike is enough). In some ways, spending too much on the first bike may make you feel "stuck" and prevent you from exploring other options down the road.

Barrettscv
10-30-08, 05:20 PM
You might have given me another one to think about as I like the look of the Kona Smoke and it is a little cheaper then the Cypress DX.

I have a question maybe your or someone else can answer, now I don't know if you would have any information on this or not but I consider myself an amateur photographer and I was wondering what are the best ways to carry a digital SLR and all the equipment on some trips?

I have a case like this from Otivia:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/wildcat-bucket/cargocache_closed.jpg

But putting fragile items in a backpack is good too.

Michael

terbennett
10-30-08, 05:22 PM
1+ Mr.Beanz
Except I might play down effort (speed) and play up distance to start with.
For me I found that a half hour ride a day is only a break even point. I really did not start losing weight until a started doing about an hour a day.
What ever bike you start with get one that enjoy riding.

Make that +2 and congrats on the weight loss. You are definitely on the right track like every says. Those two bikes are nice bikes. It's a matter of which one you like best. It's your money, so buy the one that suits you. You can't go wrong with either. I love these posts because everyone's giving me new ideas on how to lose a bit of weight myself. They amy not be nutritionists or fitness instructors but they have just as much experience (-if not more in many cases) as any nutritionist or fitness instructor.

terbennett
10-30-08, 05:32 PM
[QUOTE=dbikingman;7761513]If I had a hitch, I would get a hitch mounted rack for the ease of mounting the rack. Between a roof rack and a rack on the back depends. If you drive a tall vehicle, like a SUV, then the roof rack would be difficult to reach. If you drive in traffic then the roof rack keeps the car narrower, do you park in a garage then you have to remove bikes before entering the garage:twitchy: Mounting on the back is easy but you can overhang that creates problems if your drive in tight traffic. So those are some options to consider.

Depends on how much you love your bike. Personally, I use a roof rack system. They are the most stable (with fork mount attachments) but there are stand up attachments so you don't have to remove the front wheel too. Depending on how taall you are, the XB should be okay for such a task. The drawbacks to a roof rack system are the drop in fuel economy (2-3 mpg), higher center of gravity (crosswinds, etc.) and the height clearance thing. I know a few cyclists (including myself) who have lost good bikes because their bikes were driven into a garage or carport while on top. This is more common than you think. Ask any bike shop about it. The hitch mount actually addresses those issues but has it's own. first off, you need to spend a few hundred having a hitch installed before even using a hich mount on your XB. Also, if some genius isn't pay attention while driving and rear ends you, there goes the rear end of your car- and your bike. That would be to something I'd want to explain to my insurance company. I'd rather the damage be from my negligence than someone elses. There's some control when it's on you. Just my two cents...

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 05:54 PM
I dont have a hitch or a roof rack right now but from the sounds of it I should probably go with a roof rack. A roof rack is what everyone tells me to get so it would make sense to get one.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 06:04 PM
Does anyone have any experience dealing with a company called Princton Sports in Baltimore or Columbia MD?

epcolt
10-30-08, 06:23 PM
I have been there. They are very helpful at the Columbia store.

wayne pattee
10-30-08, 06:30 PM
I have a Cypress (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2574090570_29941144b4.jpg) and I love it for trips to the store and I have cyclocross tires for winter. I also have a road bike (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/2518418211_303c1d41f4.jpg) for long rides in good weather.
I vote for a used MTB. I've have a few. They are tough and they can be bought cheep if you keep your eyes open for one. Here (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/2519699176_6fec40c1e3.jpg)and here (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2200/2519695188_ca74c738f7.jpg) are a couple I sold last year.
Good luck and welcome to the fun.

c_m_shooter
10-30-08, 06:55 PM
I dont have a hitch or a roof rack right now but from the sounds of it I should probably go with a roof rack. A roof rack is what everyone tells me to get so it would make sense to get one.

Some of the people I ride with who have cars similar to yours just mount a fork mount that they sell for trucks (about $20) to a board and set it in the back of the car. You just remove the front wheel and you can stand the bike up inside the car. Otherwise, just lay the back seats down and lay the bike in there with the drive side up ( an old blanket may be good to protect the interior). You shouldn't need a rack unless you are going to be carrying more than one bike with you.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 07:10 PM
I have a case like this from Otivia:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/wildcat-bucket/cargocache_closed.jpg

But putting fragile items in a backpack is good too.

Michael

How much does something like that cost.
If I ever choose to ride to work it seems as though that would be a good option to store my stuff.

mikesixty4
10-30-08, 07:13 PM
Some of the people I ride with who have cars similar to yours just mount a fork mount that they sell for trucks (about $20) to a board and set it in the back of the car. You just remove the front wheel and you can stand the bike up inside the car. Otherwise, just lay the back seats down and lay the bike in there with the drive side up ( an old blanket may be good to protect the interior). You shouldn't need a rack unless you are going to be carrying more than one bike with you.

Putting it the back was something I was considering as well. I just wasn't sure whether or not I would be able to fit it back there. I will have to look into that a little further if others are able to do it.

Barrettscv
10-30-08, 07:24 PM
How much does something like that cost.
If I ever choose to ride to work it seems as though that would be a good option to store my stuff.

$95 plus shipping: http://otivia.com/cargocache.html

The rack is not included, most racks would work with the case.

Michael

lutz
10-31-08, 02:48 PM
Great conclusion !!! :thumb:


I think what a lot of people here will tell you is that your first bike (and maybe even your second one) will get you out there and riding and will also point you toward your next bike. I started back on an old $40 MTB and was saving up to buy a new MTB (even had one picked out) then I discovered road bikes (an old Schwinn I got for free).

After spending some time on the road bike, I gave up on getting a new MTB and bought a new road bike. 6 months later, I'm saving for my "ideal" road bike. Each bike has served its purpose well (still have them all and don't plan on parting with them even when #4 gets purchased) and helped me decide what I really wanted. A year ago, I would have never considered paying $1,500+ for a bike and would not have even considered a road bike but, here I am.

If you keep riding, you will most likely change your opinion on what is the perfect bike for you (or even if one bike is enough). In some ways, spending too much on the first bike may make you feel "stuck" and prevent you from exploring other options down the road.