Foo - John Daly: Rehab is for quitters!

http://www.digtriad.com/news/top/article.aspx?storyid=113239&catid=14


I hate to use the word "Party" as a verb. Sounds trashy. "Hey dude. Let's party!" Like from your beastly friend who wants to continue acting like a college tool even though he's 35 or so. You've grown separate in your ways. You want to raise a family, be respected in your neighborhood, maybe volunteer as a soccer coach for your kid's team. He wants to wake up in a jail cell smelling like cheap vodka with a new tattoo of the Tamanian Devil.

Where was I going with this? Oh ... But golfer, John Daly sure can partay.

Didn't he go to rehab for alcoholism? Then said F-it, I like to drink. I heard he also has his own golf course and invites his friends over to watch him golf shirtless, shoeless, in a pair of jeans.

Waste of major talent. I bet he has had alot of fun though...

http://www.digtriad.com/news/top/article.aspx?storyid=113239&catid=14


I hate to use the word "Party" as a verb. Sounds trashy. "Hey dude. Let's party!" Like from your beastly friend who wants to continue acting like a college tool even though he's 35 or so. You've grown separate in your ways. You want to raise a family, be respected in your neighborhood, maybe volunteer as a soccer coach for your kid's team. He wants to wake up in a jail cell smelling like cheap vodka with a new tattoo of the Tamanian Devil.

Where was I going with this? Oh ... But golfer, John Daly sure can partay.

Didn't he go to rehab for alcoholism? Then said F-it, I like to drink. I heard he also has his own golf course and invites his friends over to watch him golf shirtless, shoeless, in a pair of jeans.

Judging from the puffy look of him in his photo, that's got to be really attractive. :eek:

I'm glad this is a laugh riot for all of you. Right up until he kills himself I suppose.

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John Daly: Rehab is for quitters!

no, no, no (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD5sahXoj0U).

no, no, no (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD5sahXoj0U).

Now she's a waste of talent and a train wreck..

I'm glad this is a laugh riot for all of you. Right up until he kills himself I suppose.

The man does what he does because that what he wants to does - er - do. He wins every once and while to keep his dream alive and enjoys the rest of his time off the golf course.

I'm glad this is a laugh riot for all of you. Right up until he kills himself I suppose.

I don't think it's a laugh riot. I think it's yet another example of how celebrities and sports figures are given numerous chances to run themselves into the ground, over and over, and still get the chance to come back and play without any repercussions (Steve Howe or Darryl Strawberry, anyone?).

If this guy was a regular Joe and pulled this kind of stunt he'd be fired.

The man does what he does because that what he wants to does - er - do. He wins every once and while to keep his dream alive and enjoys the rest of his time off the golf course.

Alcoholism to his degree is a problem. He has other deeper issues he is battling.

I don't think it's a laugh riot. I think it's yet another example of how celebrities and sports figures are given numerous chances to run themselves into the ground, over and over, and still get the chance to come back and play without any repercussions (Steve Howe or Darryl Strawberry, anyone?).

If this guy was a regular Joe and pulled this kind of stunt he'd be fired.

Word.... Don't leave off Doc Gooden. This is a pacboy response..

I don't think it's a laugh riot. I think it's yet another example of how celebrities and sports figures are given numerous chances to run themselves into the ground, over and over, and still get the chance to come back and play without any repercussions (Steve Howe or Darryl Strawberry, anyone?).

If this guy was a regular Joe and pulled this kind of stunt he'd be fired.

The repercussions are that these losers will be forgiven by their fans who will continue to attend baseball games, football games, golf tournaments, etc. Howe, Strawberry, Daly and the rest WOULDN'T have jobs if the public stopped enabling them.

The man does what he does because that what he wants to

If you really believe this, you simply don't get it.

There's a shock.

My favorite athlete of all time is Keith Hernandez. He did coke but it didn't interfere with his job. I don't judge their personal life as long as they don't bring it to work. They are athletes and entertains . Not parents or role models.

My favorite athlete of all time is Keith Hernandez. He did coke but it didn't interfere with his job. I don't judge their personal life as long as they don't bring it to work. They are athletes and entertains . Not parents or role models.

K. Hernandez did coke for a couple of years, recreationally (not hard core addict style), and had given it up before he ever got to the Mets. Keith was never sick. He was just a young guy who partied a little too hard and managed to grow out of it.

J. Daly is clearly a hard core, late stage, terminal (if he does not get sober) alcoholic. He will (quite literally) drink himself to death. God only knows the carnage he will cause and how many others (family members, friends, innocent bystanders) he will drag down with him on his path to hell. Daly is sick. Very, very sick. Mr. Daly will not grow out of it. He'll either get sober, or he'll die.

Cracks me up just thinking about it. Oh, you think I'm being dramatic about this? Uh-huh. Stay tuned. I've seen this movie before, and it never has a happy ending.

He has been going through this his whole career. He is almost finished a full career already.. I doubt you will see him dead while still a pro. Maybe soon after but not during.

Maybe soon after but not during.

Well, that's alright then. Never mind.

John Daly isn't drinking because it's fun. It's long since stopped being fun. He's not drinking because he wants to. He's drinking because he can't stop drinking. God help John Daly.

I hope he finds his bottom soon while he's still alive.

I don't think it's a laugh riot. I think it's yet another example of how celebrities and sports figures are given numerous chances to run themselves into the ground, over and over, and still get the chance to come back and play without any repercussions (Steve Howe or Darryl Strawberry, anyone?).

If this guy was a regular Joe and pulled this kind of stunt he'd be fired.

So true. Look at how often these guys get off with few or no consequences.

Darryl Strawberry
Keith Hernandez
Lenny Dykstra
Dwight Gooden...

The rest of the 80's Mets...

So true. Look at how often these guys get off with few or no consequences.

Darryl Strawberry
Keith Hernandez
Lenny Dykstra
Dwight Gooden...

The rest of the 80's Mets...

K. Hernandez never had an addiction problem, not ever. He is now a very successful and well respected broadcaster in NY.

So true. Look at how often these guys get off with few or no consequences.

Darryl Strawberry: TV personalty doing well
Keith Hernandez: He's Keith Hernandez Nuff said
Lenny Dykstra: Millionaire business man
Dwight Gooden... Well.....

The rest of the 80's Mets...

Your point...

Your point...

He just hates the Mets.

And who can blame him? I hate most other teams besides the Mets.

P.S. No team was more hate-worthy than the 1986 NY Mets. Which made their victory that much sweeter.

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I was at Shea for Games 6 and 7. I'll never forget it.

I get that . But all but one guy from the 86 mets are doing real well. So I'm confussed.

J. Daly is clearly a hard core, late stage, terminal (if he does not get sober) alcoholic. He will (quite literally) drink himself to death. God only knows the carnage he will cause and how many others (family members, friends, innocent bystanders) he will drag down with him on his path to hell. Daly is sick. Very, very sick. Mr. Daly will not grow out of it. He'll either get sober, or he'll die.

Cracks me up just thinking about it. Oh, you think I'm being dramatic about this? Uh-huh. Stay tuned. I've seen this movie before, and it never has a happy ending.

Yep. :beer: <-------(coffee)
He has to find his own bottom or he will die.
OFF TOPIC RANT : All these new celeb rehab shows/ Entertainment Tonite segments
on the latest party grrrlz to go take a weekend or two off at the BF Clinic tacitly
glamorize-trivializes this lifestyle. If youve ever suffered this phenomenon you
know this stuff is nothing to make 'entertainment' out of.

Yep. :beer: <-------(coffee)
He has to find his own bottom or he will die.
OFF TOPIC RANT : All these new celeb rehab shows/ Entertainment Tonite segments
on the latest party grrrlz to go take a weekend or two off at the BF Clinic tacitly
glamorize-trivializes this lifestyle. If youve ever suffered this phenomenon you
know this stuff is nothing to make 'entertainment' out of.

I agree. Nothing is quite as appalling as some reality show about rehab.

Now that's entertainment.

If you really believe this, you simply don't get it.

There's a shock.

Oh I get it. I grew up with an horrible drug addict/alcoholic. I live with a recovering addict. We almost lost everything, PCad. We're still digging ourselves out.

There's people who gather themselves up and work on staying clean. Then there's people like my father who said, "F it. Why try. It's who I am. It's what I do."

I'm not glorifying it in the sense that you think I am.

Here's Daly's take on it:
"It's sad, but I think it's great to be free," Daly told Golf World magazine in this week's issue. "Granted, I could go out and lose everything (by) gambling and drinking, but there's no sense in denying it. It's in my blood." ...

Daly first went through alcohol rehab at the end of 1992. He won the British Open while sober in 1995, but resumed drinking a year later. He went on a drinking spree again during The Players Championship in 1997, trashed his hotel room and ultimately split with his wife.

Can he avoid that kind of situation this time?

"Honestly? Probably not," Daly told Golf World. "I want to gamble and I want to have a few drinks now and then. Basically, it (trying to stay sober) had taken over my life, and I was miserable. It's like I've said before, there's no way I'd never drink again."

I agree. Nothing is quite as appalling as some reality show about rehab.

Now that's entertainment.

Ask my wife. To her it's a little more than entertainment. She watches those shows all the time.

I actually went to school with John. He had the parents that let everyone come to their house and drink so they could keep an eye on them. He was a pretty hard core party person then and I believe with the fame early on, it never let him grow out of it. He always had the party crowd following him and I think after a while it was just expected of him. He won a few Jeep's, trucks,... around the time he won the PGA. He would bring them home and in a matter of a few weekends they were trashed. Mainly by playing (4 wheeling) and drinking. Overall he is a nice guy with a big heart, but I agree he is on a death spiral. I hope and pray that some day he will figure it all out.

Drinking a part of golf culture. If it's pro's or country club.. The old men at the club I belong to all have red noses and play gin and drink day and night...

He has really gotten fat since I saw him in the early 90s at the Buick Open. It's really kind of depressing.

What amazes me is that with the exception of the ubiquitous Tiger, he's one of, if not the, most popular player on Tour.

Mac

What amazes me is that with the exception of the ubiquitous Tiger, he's one of, if not the, most popular player on Tour.

Mac


He's an alchoholic, not a jerk off...

I'm not going to say that the entire golf-watching population is enabling John Daly, but...


Mac

Oh I get it.

With all due respect to your experiences, if you got it in the very least, you would never have posted your original comments. You seem to think Mr. Daly actually has a choice in this matter at this point. You are sadly, profoundly, and tragically....

Incorrect.

If that remains your view, no subby, you do not get it. In the meantime, the best thing any of us can do for Daly is pray for him. Actually, whether you get it or I get it is not relevant at this point. The only person who really needs to get it is John Daly. And if he does, maybe he'll survive his alcoholism.

When you get to that stage the 'choice' has been gone for a while.
And, this isnt fun anymore.....no lampshade and yukks with the guys
at the clubhouse. It all shakes, DT's, hot flashes, palpitations etc....
People dont 'choose' this type of stuff.

When you get to that stage the 'choice' has been gone for a while.
And, this isnt fun anymore.....no lampshade and yukks with the guys
at the clubhouse. It all shakes, DT's, hot flashes, palpitations etc....
People dont 'choose' this type of stuff.

Correct.

With all due respect to your experiences, if you got it in the very least, you would never have posted your original comments. You seem to think Mr. Daly actually has a choice in this matter at this point. You are sadly, profoundly, and tragically....

Incorrect.

If that remains your view, no subby, you do not get it. In the meantime, the best thing any of us can do for Daly is pray for him. Actually, whether you get it or I get it is not relevant at this point. The only person who really needs to get it is John Daly. And if he does, maybe he'll survive his alcoholism.

I understand your point. Forgive me if I sounded crass.
But will he seek outside help anymore? Or has he caved in to the fact that he does what he does because he wants to do it?

I only can speak from my own experience, but there comes a point where there is no want, only incomprehensible demoralization.

Or has he caved in to the fact that he does what he does because he wants to do it?

When you get to Daly's stage subby, you don't want to do it, but you can't really stop. He may seek outside help on and off until the day he dies. God's in charge now. Not you, not me and certainly not Mr. Daly.

He'll either surrender or he won't.

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