Foo - Nike Victory

I picked up a pair of these today for the upcoming winter track season and all I can say is wow. I popped them on the scale, each one weighs 3.1oz. To put that in perspective, my XC spikes weigh 7.1 each, my soccer boots are 8.1 each, my trainers are 11 and my rugby boots are 11.6. The Victories weigh NOTHING. And for track spikes, they look pretty smexy.


Clif Notes- Victories are super light and sexy.

/useless

Noted.

The Victories way NOTHING.


Clif Notes- Victories are super light and sexy.

Know Weigh!!!!!

Yeah weigh!

Know Weigh!!!!!

Knot that you wood no.

I wish you guys enjoyed running more. :notamused:

I wear racing flats when I racewalk marathons. I know the benefits of lighter, flexible shoes. So there.

racewalk


Does not compute.



;)

Does not compute.

;)

Yes, go ahead and mock the racewalker. In a marathon I'll pass you at mile 23. :D

How do you tell the difference between a 50 year old runner and a 50 year old racewalker?

By the surgery scars on the runner's knees. :p

I run XC. Im starting track in the spring though. Never tried track shoes before, look like they'll murder your feet. The spikes are pointless if your only going to do 100 metres. But they are probably useful for cornering. I just don't see the point of spending alot on specialized shoes when you can get a good pair of regular running shoes that have grip, and are light. If they dont work for what you do, then its justified. But for highschool track, I don't see a point in buying them.

Running is a sport without expensive equipment. If Nike (and the others) can convince runners otherwise, hey, free money!

"I run XC. Im starting track in the spring though. Never tried track shoes before, look like they'll murder your feet. The spikes are pointless if your only going to do 100 metres. But they are probably useful for cornering. I just don't see the point of spending alot on specialized shoes when you can get a good pair of regular running shoes that have grip, and are light. If they dont work for what you do, then its justified. But for highschool track, I don't see a point in buying them."


My XC spikes actually have less support than the track ones. The grip of spikes and light weight is nice nice. If it matters at all, I run the 2 miles and 55m hurdles in the winter.



Yes, go ahead and mock the racewalker. In a marathon I'll pass you at mile 23. :D

How do you tell the difference between a 50 year old runner and a 50 year old racewalker?

By the surgery scars on the runner's knees. :p

I was watching racewalking a while ago. I have respect for it, but I always laugh at the slow-motion replays. :D

Most have been convinced. I don't really like the design of Nike Running shoes though. I prefer Saucony

I was watching racewalking a while ago. I have respect for it, but I always laugh at the slow-motion replays. :D

Yes, people always forget that the longest distance event in track and field is the men's 50K racewalk - 6 miles longer than the marathon.

Running is a sport without expensive equipment.

Performance increases decline as you add more money. A $50 shoe and a $100 shoe will have a modest performance increase. It's just like cycling.


Who told you that running can't get expensive, anyway? You can make it as cheap or expensive as you want. If I was really into it, I'd buy distance and event specific shoes. I have one pair of trainers, one pair of XC spikes and one pair of track spikes. $250 for trainers, XC spikes and track spikes is nothing compared to maintaining my bikes throughout the year. Expensive is all relative.

Most have been convinced. I don't really like the design of Nike Running shoes though. I prefer Saucony

I use Saucony XC spikes.

"I run XC. Im starting track in the spring though. Never tried track shoes before, look like they'll murder your feet. The spikes are pointless if your only going to do 100 metres. But they are probably useful for cornering. I just don't see the point of spending alot on specialized shoes when you can get a good pair of regular running shoes that have grip, and are light. If they dont work for what you do, then its justified. But for highschool track, I don't see a point in buying them."


My XC spikes actually have less support than the track ones. The grip of spikes and light weight is nice nice. If it matters at all, I run the 2 miles and 55m hurdles in the winter.


My XC shoes don't have spikes. They're run of the mill Running shoes.
In fact, they are these: http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4028/33036606299338bne1.jpg

Not fancy. I seem to do pretty well with them. Running is about the runner, unless you are at your peak. Then you try to get whatever advantage you can. But not many people are at that point.

My XC shoes don't have spikes. They're run of the mill Running shoes.
In fact, they are these: http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4028/33036606299338bne1.jpg
Running is about the runner, unless you are at your peak.

Of course running is about the runner. It's not called equipment-buying. However....



I'm not the best pianist, but that doesn't mean I limit myself to a keyboard. I'm pretty mediocre at rugby, but I can take pleasure in owning an maintaining nice equipment. There's nothing wrong with buying a nice [insert item here], even if you're not the fastest/best/most supreme being ever. Hell, the road forum is a case in point example. I'm never going to win a 5k. I'm too small to be competitive at the highest level in contact sports. But I'm not going to buy things based upon what other people tell me matches my ability level.



EDIT- By the way, spend $50 on a pair of XC spikes. If you've ever lost a final-leg sprint, you probably would have won it with spikes.

^Facts^

Of course running is about the runner. It's not called equipment-buying.



I'm not the best pianist, but that doesn't mean I limit myself to a keyboard. I pretty mediocre at rugby but I can take pleasure in owning an maintaining nice equipment. There's nothing wrong with buying a nice [insert item here], even if you're not the fastest/best/most supreme being ever. Hell, the road forum is a case in point example.

Nothing wrong with it. But when I see a runner coming in with expensive shoes at a bad placing, I think they are a rich poser.

I think they are a rich poser.

If they're out running, they're not a poser.

Do you ever run with groups? They're just about the least judgmental people you can find. Of course, there are always exceptions....


On an unrelated note, I'm eating my ceremonial pizza. Practice (re)starts Monday. This is the last unhealthy food I'll be eating until school ends.

If they're out running, they're not a poser.

Do you ever run with groups? They're just about the least judgmental people you can find. Of course, there are always exceptions....

I run solo and with groups.

"If they're out running, they're not a poser." My bad, i agree with you on this. Ill take back what i said and say: They're just rich.
I just don't see buying expensive running shoes justified when not needed.

Forget this "arguement". I dont feel like it.

"If they're out running, they're not a poser." My bad, i agree with you on this. Ill take back what i said and say: They're just rich.

Possibly. It's all subjective though, run to run. Fancy equipment is for the obsessed and endowed. Or both.

to put this in perspective my service boots weigh 2.5lb each:D

What's the surface on the indoor track? Many moons ago - when Cbad was still in Jr. High and High School :D, flats were all they'd let us use. Onitsuka Tigers were almost like wearing slippers. Not much support, but were they ever light.

What's the surface on the indoor track? Many moons ago - when Cbad was still in Jr. High and High School :D, flats were all they'd let us use. Onitsuka Tigers were almost like wearing slippers. Not much support, but were they ever light.

Yeah, yeah, when I was in HS there were no indoor tracks, everyone ran outside on the dirt. :(

flats were all they'd let us use.

You probably ran on some dumb-stupid surface that's obsolete. Old people, sheesh.

Yeah, yeah, when I was in HS there were no indoor tracks, everyone ran outside on the dirt. :(Was the track entirely uphill and blanketed in snow? And were you only running to get away from dinosaurs? :P

The track at my high school was outdoors and dirt as well. I don't think I've seen an indoor track.

And he was barefoot

Was the track entirely uphill and blanketed in snow? And were you only running to get away from dinosaurs? :P

The track at my high school was outdoors and dirt as well. I don't think I've seen an indoor track.

SoCal doesn't have much snow. :p

Even when my daughter was a 400 runner in HS 4 years ago her school had a dirt track. There was one new HS in the district that had the all-weather track surface. I seem to remember my daughter needing different spikes or something when she ran on that surface.

SoCal doesn't have much snow. :p

Even when my daughter was a 400 runner in HS 4 years ago her school had a dirt track. There was one new HS in the district that had the all-weather track surface. I seem to remember my daughter needing different spikes or something when she ran on that surface.

Tartan Track

You probably ran on some dumb-stupid surface that's obsolete. Old people, sheesh.

I don't think the University of Rochester field house's track was a bad surface, but the times were a bit slower than outdoors. The tunnel weirded a lot of people out though. All our distances shorter than the mile were different from outdoors - and in yards rather than meters.