Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Which one and Why!?

OK

ignoring all components, which of these frame/fork sets would you rather have??

AND

Why??

http://bricklanebikes.co.uk/images/236.jpg

http://bricklanebikes.co.uk/images/235.jpg

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i don't make decisions based just on looks. i'd evaluate based on price, what tubing they were made of, and what my needs were for a new frame.

If it were based on looks alone Id go with the blue frame and fork, only because its lugged and the track "drops" look nice :thumb:

I like the headtube/ toptube angle on the top one, but smaller, 650 front wheel? No.

I couldn't think of any other bikes that cater more to hipsterism over practicality on the face of this planet.

trendy yes, but they do look good tho.

pursuit frames with risers; i just don't get it.

I'm all for track frames on the street but pursuit frames are really pushing it. I vote neither of them, even for track riding they look god awful!

1st > 2nd based solely on looks. The 2nd one looks squished.

Top one with a proper front wheel would likely be rideable, but neither of those would really be high on my list of picks

pursuit frames with risers; i just don't get it.

If they are production models, I agree, but I am slowly warming up to the idea of older pursuit bikes that are pretty much NEVER going to be used for their intended purpose again because they're basically obsolete being reclaimed and outfitted to make them rideable on the street, so long as they're not historically important or something ridiculously nice like a Merckx or a Rossin or something.

Il Pompino for fun,
neither of those

Both of those bikes are pretty dumb.

both those bikes look cool but they seem to have more fork
rake and shallower head tube angles than a standard track geometry.
probably less skiddy and fun.

top one with a 700c in the front

IMO i liked the looks of the first one the way it is. why did you make this thread?

is the second one and affinity pursuit frame?
nevermind

Affinity one looks crap and probably is.
Problem with the Orlowski is that it looks like a Pista without the Bianchi text on it which i find sickeningly stupid. I mean why the **** would they do that?
Obviously its lugged and the geometry is dramatically different but still.

http://www.bianchiusa.com/typo3temp/ddaa5e16ad.jpg
http://bricklanebikes.co.uk/images/236.jpg

H+son in the hizzouse.

The headtube angle on the bottom one looks slack as hell.

The first one is not as ugly as the second one.

i made the thread because i can get either one for the same price.............
just wonder whether i should bother or not

top. do it.

I like both but I'd choose a Geekhouse (http://www.geekhousebikes.com/rockcity.html) instead.

Those are unlugged and are a grand?
I dont know about that.

<no offense> if you don't know enough about 'em to choose a pursuit frame for yourself, or try to compare two with different geometries but base the decision on looks, you shouldn't be on a pursuit frame </no offense>

lugged, repaint

i dont think you can ride the orlowski with a front 700.
looks pretty tight on the pic already

First there are a multitude of variables that are important to factor in that aren't. Anyways, just looking at the frame your looking for a couple items; tubing material, how tubing is drawn (strait gauge, double butting), welds, and geometry.

based off the looks both are in-house brands

Blue bike-------------------------------------------- White bike-
-less aggressive riding geometry---------------more aggressive riding geometry
-shorter track fork ends(drop-outs)------------longer true track fork ends
-lugged frame construction----------------------TIG frame construction
-frame not bossed for water bottle cage------ bossed for water bottle
-pinch bolt seat clamp----------------------------removable ring seat clamp (not part of frame)
-fork is structurally the same---------------------fork is structurally the same
-mismatch 700c-rear 650c-front wheels---------consistent wheel size

There are a couple things that make the white bike the winner in my mind.
- consistent wheel size
- longer track ends (allow you to change out cog sizes w/o having to change chain.)
- TIG weld construction

Blue bike
- has a better crank in my opinion, thats about it.
that is just what I observed based on the photos.

<no offense> if you don't know enough about 'em to choose a pursuit frame for yourself, or try to compare two with different geometries but base the decision on looks, you shouldn't be on a pursuit frame </no offense>

I second that (Still no offense) but a pursuit frame is a very, very, very specialized pedigree. There's a good chance that if your not an experienced rider and don't know what your buying, your either gonna be very uncomfortable with the geometry, or spend a lot of money converting the geometry into something more comfortable ( via stems, handle bars, forks, spacers) to get it dialed in.