Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - mannnn wtf

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kassebaum
11-18-08, 11:46 AM
so after i think ive got EVEYRTHING ready, i am having so much trouble getting this (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=6000121&subcategory=60001254&brand=&sku=2455&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20700x18%20to%20700x28) tire onto a wheel that i know for sure is size 700x25. i have eveyrthing i need and im pumping air into it and its just like bulging over the side of the wheel and i really think the tire is too big. is it too big or do i just suck at bikes
Thetank
11-18-08, 11:49 AM
you suck at bikes. Make sure the tube is seated properly and its not folded anywhere along the wheel or it will do that.
kassebaum
11-18-08, 11:52 AM
ima take some pics when im done eating. idk man it really might be too big
if at first it doesn't work, try try again. i had the same experience when i changed my first tire. it gets a lot easier with practice.
MPLSdunk
11-18-08, 11:58 AM
1. put the wheel inside the tire
2. get ONE side of the tire attached to the wheel
3. get the tube seated in there properly
4. attach the other side of the tire to the wheel
5. inflate
Thetank
11-18-08, 12:02 PM
what you want to do is have just the smallest amount of air in the tube when you install it so that you can seat it properly. What you do after you mount your tire and begin to air it up do it slowly so you can see if the tube is popping out of the wheel and you adjust as you go.
This will help http://www.performancebike.com/video/changingaflat.cfm
1fluffhead
11-18-08, 12:02 PM
Your tube is kinked or not seated properly, hence the bulge. Try again with some help from park tools (http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=56)
kassebaum
11-18-08, 12:14 PM
i really dont think the tire fits, the tube is fitting perfectly but the tire itself won't tuck into the side of the wheel
planyourfate
11-18-08, 12:27 PM
Get it on as much as you can then slowly start "rolling" it with you hands.
Another option is to go to the library check out any bike repair manual and look up a proper technique.
jpdesjar
11-18-08, 12:29 PM
As someone said get one side on completely then the other, the last bit will be a little tough to get on by just do it gradually. If you have a bulge in your tire try deflating a little bit then making sure the tube is sitting correctly then pump up again, it can be frustrating sometimes hence your thread title.
kassebaum
11-18-08, 12:31 PM
im really appreciating the help, and i tried taking a picture, didnt show too much, but seriously theres about a half an inch between the tire and the wheel once i have the rest of it compeltly tucked in, one part of it still sticks up that much
jpdesjar
11-18-08, 12:34 PM
Rim size and tire size? Type of tire? Some tires can be a real pisser.
kassebaum
11-18-08, 01:00 PM
both (and tube) are size 700cx 25
jpdesjar
11-18-08, 01:02 PM
Get a little soapy water between the tire and rim and see if that helps things...it shouldn't be this difficult or should it?
4zn_balla
11-18-08, 01:04 PM
try a different tire. I believe you that it's too big and therefore will not give advice on how to put it on.
andrewro
11-18-08, 01:05 PM
Double-check and make sure they didn't send you the 27" by mistake, the site lists that size as one of the choices..
kassebaum
11-18-08, 02:40 PM
yea well im bout to head down to the other LBS see what they gotta say.
1fluffhead
11-18-08, 02:43 PM
I wonder if that will stops once she realizes you can't put on a tire properly.
jet sanchEz
11-18-08, 02:45 PM
It was a pity-hit anyways.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 12:46 PM
GUESS WHAT
found out some huge mistakes i had
1) the f$cking ****** at one of the LBS i was going to sold me a 700c wheel and a 27"" wheel and told me they were both 700c......
2) the tire i was trying to put on the 700c wheel ACTUALLY WAS size 27""
so at this point i basically have the wheel / tire business figured out. im probably going to make a new thread when my bike gets finished just so allt he people who ahve been helpign me out can see waht exactly i was getting help with
planyourfate
11-19-08, 12:48 PM
Did you get a new wheel and tire out of it?
kassebaum
11-19-08, 12:50 PM
yeah i took my bike to this other shop, cycles de oro in greensboro nc to get some brakes put on, since i finally got the singlespeed wheel and evyerhting set up on the back, and the guy calls me like "yo u know ur front wheel isnt 700c, its 27" and im like WTF THAT UAIAGNKASGNJASGH and im just like furious because the shop who sold me the wheel set was being d!cks to me in the first place and so the guy at cycles de oro is super nice and replaces the 700c tire i squeezed onto the 27" wheel with a regular sized 27" tire, and im going to have a 700c wheel on the back and a 27" on the front, and i told the bike shop who sold me the stuff to F off
they said its going to be fine to have a 700c on the back and 27 on the front and wont really be any difference riding it and it won't look weird. opinions?
kringle
11-19-08, 12:51 PM
yea well im bout to head down to the other LBS where the girl that works tehre totally hits on me every time i go on, see what they gotta say.
If she's a sales associate, then you might be looking too into it.
Did you buy the rear and front at the same time as a wheelset? If so, that's shady.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 12:54 PM
@ ^ haha yeah, i probably am. but the first time i went in she was supppppper nice and all my friends were like "wow nick shes totally hitting on you stop being a jerk" because i didnt even notice it, and then i went back like 3 weeks later and she was like "heyy!! wahts upp!! your the guy with the 72 collegiate!!" and even remembered the bike i had. idk.
jpdesjar
11-19-08, 12:54 PM
This thread hurts
planyourfate
11-19-08, 12:54 PM
yeah i took my bike to this other shop, cycles de oro in greensboro nc to get some brakes put on, since i finally got the singlespeed wheel and evyerhting set up on the back, and the guy calls me like "yo u know ur front wheel isnt 700c, its 27" and im like WTF THAT UAIAGNKASGNJASGH and im just like furious because the shop who sold me the wheel set was being d!cks to me in the first place and so the guy at cycles de oro is super nice and replaces the 700c tire i squeezed onto the 27" wheel with a regular sized 27" tire, and im going to have a 700c wheel on the back and a 27" on the front, and i told the bike shop who sold me the stuff to F off
they said its going to be fine to have a 700c on the back and 27 on the front and wont really be any difference riding it and it won't look weird. opinions?
There shouldn't really be much of a noticeable difference as far as appearance and handling. I would have gone back to the shop that sold me the wheelset and *****ed and raised hell. In fact i advise you to do that.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 12:56 PM
That's waht the associate at Cycles de Oro told me to do, but see, Cycles~ is an hour south from me, and Newmans, (shop who sold me bad equipment in the first place) is an hour north, so its a lot of worthless driving if i go up there with the sole intention of flipping out on them when the problem can be fixed by the shop I was already at
kringle
11-19-08, 12:58 PM
That's waht the associate at Cycles de Oro told me to do, but see, Cycles~ is an hour south from me, and Newmans, (shop who sold me bad equipment in the first place) is an hour north, so its a lot of worthless driving if i go up there with the sole intention of flipping out on them when the problem can be fixed by the shop I was already at
So did you buy both wheels as a set from the first shop? Or, did you just buy the rear?
kassebaum
11-19-08, 01:03 PM
i bought a 700c wheelset from shop A. shop B told me that shop A sold me a 700c back and 27" front, and shop A was ******ed and dones't know anything about wheels, cause shop A thinks 700c = 27' when it clearly does not
kringle
11-19-08, 01:04 PM
You really won't notice too much of a difference when you ride. Where you will see the difference is in the tire choices.
Thetank
11-19-08, 01:04 PM
so now you will have to stock 2 different sets of tires and tubes because you don't want to go exchange what they screwed up? Go and either have them replace the 27 for the proper wheel or get your money back and buy the complete set from the shop that knows what they're doing. Don't let them get away with this crap and make sure they make up for the drive up there to fix their stupid mistake!
kassebaum
11-19-08, 01:24 PM
I know, thats waht the good shop told me to do. they said in the future I won't want to be buying mismatched wheels/ tires, but i won't notice a difference in it. I would drive up there to get it switched but it would be just so much work for something that seems would't quite be worth it.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 01:27 PM
oh and by the way, this is the second major error the shop made. remember the thread i made about the back wheel not fitting my frame? some of you may remember. Anyway, they GARAUNTEED that the wheelset WOULD FIT my frame, and when I go to put the wheel on at my house, it doesnt, and I needed (did this yesterday morning after class) to take the back wheel + my bike up to the shop and they did some axle work and made it fit, but charged me for labor that they shouldn't have had to do in the first place...
my advice in trying to build a ss conversion: choose one shop to help you through it, and make sure it's a good one.
Adam G.
11-19-08, 01:31 PM
I am sorry I have to say it, are you that f**king stupid?! I call troll, but if not pick up a new hobbie like chess or something. I was putting together and taking apart bikes at 10 years old. Sorry to be so mean and blunt about it but damn.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 01:31 PM
yo i gtg tho
kassebaum
11-19-08, 01:32 PM
Na dude it isn't like that at all, I have no problem picking out parts and building the bikes AT ALL.. but the people sell me the wrong stuff is the problem. They sold me a wheelset saying it was 700c, but it was actually a700c and 27'
thats not my fault at all.
Jabba Degrassi
11-19-08, 01:35 PM
Na dude it isn't like that at all, I have no problem picking out parts and building the bikes AT ALL.. but the people sell me the wrong stuff is the problem. They sold me a wheelset saying it was 700c, but it was actually a700c and 27'
thats not my fault at all.
Somebody hands you two different size wheels and you don't notice the difference and that's not your fault?
Buyer beware, dude.
^ agreed. so OP, go back to the LBS and have them rectify the situation for you
how much did you pay for the wheelset?
jpdesjar
11-19-08, 01:38 PM
Yes, verify those sizes before you buy them. What is the size difference between 700c and 27" isn't it minimal, is it hard to tell just by visual comparison?
1fluffhead
11-19-08, 01:52 PM
Your threads make my head hurt. I would recommend you buy a Kilo and be done with it already. You would have probably saved alot of time and money already.
kringle
11-19-08, 03:06 PM
Yes, verify those sizes before you buy them. What is the size difference between 700c and 27" isn't it minimal, is it hard to tell just by visual comparison?
4mm radius, 8mm diameter.
I am sorry I have to say it, are you that f**king stupid?! I call troll, but if not pick up a new hobbie like chess or something. I was putting together and taking apart bikes at 10 years old. Sorry to be so mean and blunt about it but damn.
That's a bad post.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 03:47 PM
Your threads make my head hurt. I would recommend you buy a Kilo and be done with it already. You would have probably saved alot of time and money already.
yeah i agree completley, at this point i really wish thats what I had done.
and yes, the bike shop has fixed all the problems the other shop created for me, and the size difference between a 700c and a 27" is VERY minimal, so much so that I was able to squeeze a 700c tire onto a 27" wheel, so don't tell me its my fault i didnt see the difference.
sneaky viking
11-19-08, 04:15 PM
It is your fault that you're too lazy to go get your ***** straightened out + have 2 same-sized wheels.
you suck at bikes.
forreals. this ducd has like 20 posts about it.
jet sanchEz
11-19-08, 04:30 PM
But, he's converting a 1972 Schwinn Collegiate guys!
It's scary how some people don't know the difference from a 27'' and 700c wheel. I was in REI several weeks ago and a kid with a track bike was asking the sales rep if a 700C would fit his 27'' wheel. Sadly, the guy told him he wasnt sure, and could not reccomend the right tire for safety reasons.
I chuckled.
crushkilldstroy
11-19-08, 04:57 PM
I have a feeling that the dude just bought the rear wheel and now he's trying to blame the tire debaucle on the shop.
Dude just needs to go to an LBS that he can trust, rather than having a bunch of internet idiots try and help him from halfway across the universe.
kassebaum
11-19-08, 06:30 PM
but i love you internet idiots.
and update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the lbs i was telling you how great it was, the one who was fixing evyerhting for me, the main guy doing the work is going to take my 27" wheel and give me a 700c wheel from his own personal bike stuff collection.
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so now i will have matching wheels :)
kringle
11-19-08, 06:36 PM
but i love you internet idiots.
and update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the lbs i was telling you how great it was, the one who was fixing evyerhting for me, the main guy doing the work is going to take my 27" wheel and give me a 700c wheel from his own personal bike stuff collection.
<3333333
so now i will have matching wheels :)
I'm curious, what hub is on the front 27"?
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