BMX - loose handlebars

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b3nsonx
11-21-08, 11:15 AM
alright, so i tighten my stem with my handlebars at a 90 degree angle to the floor. After a few bunnyhops, i notice that the handlebar slowly moves back, to the point where it almost hits my knees (then wont go any further back). What ive noticed about the handlebars is that at the part where the stem locks onto it, it's kinda squeezed into an odd shape. Is it time for new handlebars? new stem? or is there something i can do?
i already tried cutting an old tube out and wrapping it around the handlebars, but even with the stem fully tightened, it moves alot
btw, the parts i described are the stock GT stem and stock GT handlebars.
EasternJane
11-21-08, 12:25 PM
I have had this problem before. The reason mine ovaled/bent in is because the inside had bad rust, causing it to bend when i tightened the stem. Over tightening could cause it too, with or without rust. I reccomend buying new handlebars.
b3nsonx
11-21-08, 12:29 PM
how would i know if im over tightening?
i dont have a torque wrench, and they dont really make them for the allen bolt styles, do they?
abowler10154
11-21-08, 03:55 PM
I had the same problem. The bike shop took the paint off my handelbars, then it never happened again. Take a flathead screwdriver, and put cuts in your stem going diagonally. Alot of them, some deep. Then if they still move, get new handelbars.
b3nsonx
11-21-08, 03:57 PM
is there another thing i can do besides that?
like maybe some sort of material that could be stuffed in there to keep it nice and snug.
I think anything extra you put in there is just gonna act as a bearing and make it slip more
abowler10154
11-22-08, 06:35 AM
Is your stem really smooth inside? Are your handelbars really smooth where they meet the stem? Or are they rough to keep them from moving.
pc_1453
11-22-08, 08:44 AM
yeah, mine were completely smooth a while back. I actually bought it used, then tried DJ. that's how I learned abotu the slipping bars. bad results, lol. just buy a new set, and wipe the inside of your stem out. the bits of metal that had worn off my bars made a kind of sludge in there. make sure it's gone.
b3nsonx
11-22-08, 11:29 PM
there's some metal stuff inside the stem, and the handlebar part is pretty smooth too.
abowler10154
11-23-08, 05:20 AM
the handelbar part shouldnt be that smooth.
EasternJane
11-23-08, 10:11 AM
The handle bars should have a cross-thatch section, or a section where it has grooves for the stem to tighten down on to.
b3nsonx
11-23-08, 04:31 PM
nope. i guess it's time for me to install my new handlebars once i get a new stem, unless someone has another solution for me.
Street rider
11-24-08, 05:55 PM
try rubber. like cut some rubberbands and wrap em around the inside. just a temporary fix though. wont last more than a week or two depending on how hard you ride
b3nsonx
11-24-08, 05:59 PM
hmm, rubber bands sounds good.
i was sitting here thinking of how to fix it, and how well would cement work? or super glue?
fuzzbox
11-24-08, 06:39 PM
Super glue? No
Cement? wtf
Caulk? Maybe
Hot glue? Maybe
They'd end up wearing out fast though.
I had the same problem. The bike shop took the paint off my handelbars, then it never happened again. Take a flathead screwdriver, and put cuts in your stem going diagonally. Alot of them, some deep. Then if they still move, get new handelbars.
still this
EasternJane
11-25-08, 09:43 AM
WOAH! No glue ever lol. And cement? You nuts? Thats as bad as me using a hammer on my bike >.< Possibly worse.
Get some rough ass sand paper and sand your stem and bars untill its really rough. That should buy you some time.
b3nsonx
11-26-08, 12:10 PM
alright, i will start sanding the handlebars, do i sand the inside of the stem too?
and also, im looking to buy a new stem right now, are all stems supposed to have the grooves to match the handlebar? or is it just the cheap stems that are smooth on the inside?
EasternJane
11-26-08, 12:48 PM
I only suggest sanding because it should be kinda rough on your handlebars where the stem grabs it. Not sure about inside my stem, dont have allen keys on me right now to check...pretty sure mine hase diagonal "cuts" in it.
JosephPaul86
11-27-08, 10:42 PM
Here is what me and my buds did when we were too broke to buy new parts:
Get a coke can and cut out a square as wide as the stem. Then fold this square once, making a rectangle. Install it between the stem and handle bars...and if that doesn't solve the issue, then repeat this for the opposing side of the stem/bars.
***I am not responsible for any damages to you or your property***
Might buy you some time or even solve the issue. I did this on a bike when i rode hard and all it required was an adjustment every month or so.
b3nsonx
11-29-08, 07:37 PM
sounds cool, im gonna try it.
thanks
b3nsonx
12-05-08, 02:04 PM
Alright, i tried the soda can trick, but handlebar still moved after a few bunnyhops.
I think it's because the part where the stem locks onto is squeezed smaller from over tightening or something.
CMcMahon
12-05-08, 04:32 PM
Your first problem is that you're putting your bars perpendicular to the ground, rather than parallel with your forks and steerer.
pc_1453
12-05-08, 04:54 PM
the starting angle has nothing to do with it. I align my bars by using the ground, not my fork and they're fine. just buy new bars.
CMcMahon
12-05-08, 05:15 PM
That's the angle he's riding his bars at, not simply the starting angle, if I'm reading it correctly.
b3nsonx
12-05-08, 05:46 PM
well, my forks are kinda slanted forward.
so if i readjust them to be straight with the forks, it should be fine?
pc_1453
12-05-08, 08:39 PM
don't think so. seriously, if the base of the bars are smaller than they were originally, you really need to buy new ones.
WhitePacFan1993
12-05-08, 08:58 PM
just buy some mother freaking badger bars
like 70 bucks
and theyl last forever
b3nsonx
12-06-08, 11:44 AM
i already have another one that i tried to install right now, but here's the problem...
The stem looks like it may be a bit ovaled or something, because when i put the new handlebars against the stem, it doesnt fit up against it tightly. There is a small space, so i didnt install them yet..
I guess it's time for a new stem too.
Here's my stem question, does the type of headset you use determine what kind of stem is compatable?
because ive noticed that the older bikes like mine, have another shinny shaft thing that locks onto the stem, instead of like the newer bikes, which directly lock onto the steerer tube of the fork itself.
FuzzyRyder
12-06-08, 02:00 PM
you are using the old style system. Your stem is actually a "gooseneck" and it holds it self in place by the wedge system you've probably seen. The headset and steerer tube are threaded so you can only use that old-style system. Or just buy a new bike.
b3nsonx
12-06-08, 02:08 PM
i see...
how much could i sell my gt for?
thinking about parting it out then selling it on ebay.
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