Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - 27" to 700c

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JimmyOneSmith
11-28-08, 12:35 PM
So i have a Raleigh Conversion with 27" wheels.
I want to go to a flip flop hub, I was thinking of going down to 700c wheels. Is this worth it, or should i just find a 27" flip flop wheel somewhere?
spray2020
11-28-08, 12:44 PM
there are some good setups of 27"wheels with track hubs-
i wouldnt go down to 700c, it will look kinda dumb on a 27" wheel frame, the wheels are smaller so there would be bigger gaps
as long as you dont care about trendy colors and stuff like that- and just want nice wheels-
go with 27"
go to your lbs and see what they have-
i got a set of sunrims with track hubs in philly 27" for like 150-
that way- they will look proportional
spray2020
11-28-08, 12:45 PM
you also could just pick the hubs of your choice- and the 27" rims of your choice and get them laced up and a bike shop-
make sure they have the same amount of holes-
Geordi Laforge
11-28-08, 12:52 PM
people use 700c on conversions all the time. In fact, I would say 99% of the time a former road bike has been converted to fixed or singlespeed, it now has 700c wheels.
more selection of rims, hubs, and tires with 700c.
JimmyOneSmith
11-28-08, 12:55 PM
well I saw the ebay company wheelandsprocket has a 27" shipped for $109
http://cgi.ebay.com/27-ROAD-BIKE-TRACK-FIXED-GEAR-BICYCLE-REAR-BACK-WHEEL_W0QQitemZ370101505654QQihZ024QQcategoryZ58099QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2
Does this seem like a good option?
I tried going down the LBS build my own path and that was coming out to be $40 plus a dollar a spoke plus the cost of the hub. Unless i can find a decent hub under 40 bucks shipped the ebay deal seems cheaper.
What do you all think?
Geordi Laforge
11-28-08, 01:04 PM
get 700c. less of a pain in the ass when you purchase tires and tubes.
spray2020
11-28-08, 01:12 PM
i think that ebay auction is a good buy
and yes, what the other people have said- alot of people do put 700c on there conversions..
but this is just my opinion: they look too small- and running a brake and sometimes be a pain since they are smaller-
it will look more classic with 27" wheels
tires wise- yes there is more selection w/700c but its not like you cant get good tires for 27" wheels
I say get them- 27", its a good idea
JoeEasy
11-28-08, 01:18 PM
quality tires are not hard to find and tubes are the same as 700c
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/27zz/27in_road_tires/products.htm go here for tires
JimmyOneSmith
11-28-08, 02:15 PM
sweet, I bought the ebay wheel. Thanks for the help.
sykerocker
11-28-08, 02:16 PM
Either way is good. One thing you have to factor is if you're going to install a brake: putting 700c wheels on a frame originally built for 27" means finding some long arm brakes. Not impossible by any means, they're just not common anymore.
operator
11-28-08, 04:00 PM
Either way is good. One thing you have to factor is if you're going to install a brake: putting 700c wheels on a frame originally built for 27" means finding some long arm brakes. Not impossible by any means, they're just not common anymore.
This is completely untrue. Do people even post anything that's not worthless on this forum anymore? Tektro long(er) reach brakes are available from pretty much every mail order bike shop on the face of the planet.
operator
11-28-08, 04:00 PM
sweet, I bought the ebay wheel. Thanks for the help.
And it was the wrong decision. When you're converting a bike, unless you *really* don't want to change the brakes out (sometimes you can get away with using the originals even), keeping 27" wheels is ALWAYS the wrong choice.
operator
11-28-08, 04:02 PM
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but this is just my opinion: they look too small- and running a brake and sometimes be a pain since they are smaller-
Wrong. It's not a pain
it will look more classic with 27" wheels
Yes because everyone can see that the diameter of your wheels is 8mm smaller. Right.
tires wise- yes there is more selection w/700c but its not like you cant get good tires for 27" wheels
Tyre selection wise, you got nothing on 700c's. Especially if you like different colours
I say get them- 27", its a good idea
It's not, good job leading people astray. Do us a favour and stop posting.
spray2020
11-28-08, 05:44 PM
^
in actuality- its not really RIGHT or WRONG... but a matter of preference.
but the point you say about not being able to tell the difference of a conversion with 700c wheel vs. 27".... I sure can see a difference in relation to the frame-
here is a 27" conversion with 700c wheels:
http://g.virbcdn.com/cdnImages/resize_510x1500/Image-13229-971962-fixie07.jpg
and a conversion with 27" wheels with track hubs:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh66/spray2020/IMG_0662.jpg
some cases might be more drastic than others- where it might not be as noticable
but there is no way I am wrong for telling the op to stick with 27"wheels on his 27" frame, might be my preference- but it's deff. not a BAD idea.
I am converting 27" frame to 700c. Why not I said
spray2020
11-28-08, 05:48 PM
^there isnt anything wrong with it- its preference
but then again there is nothing wrong with keeping 27" wheels as well.
JimmyOneSmith
11-28-08, 05:52 PM
Yeah I am going to agree with spray2020 on this one.
Operator I do appreciate the look out, and I do agree with you that it isn't that big of a deal to go down to 700c.
But i do like the way my frame looks with the 27" wheels
operator
11-28-08, 06:26 PM
100% wrong.
I don't know how to put this in any other way, really.
Geordi Laforge
11-28-08, 06:27 PM
I would take preference of the wider availability and selection of wheel goods than looks, personally. That seems to be only argument in favor of 27" wheels over 700c.
ZiP0082
11-28-08, 06:28 PM
get 700c. less of a pain in the ass when you purchase tires and tubes.
agreed. unless you are trying to keep the bike more authentic.
Geordi Laforge
11-28-08, 06:28 PM
yes, definitely.
croscoe
11-28-08, 07:57 PM
If you went with the 700c wheels you'd have a little extra room for fatter tires which is always a nice thing.
JimmyOneSmith
11-28-08, 08:41 PM
hmmm, ok all good points. I will reevaluate
planyourfate
11-28-08, 08:51 PM
People that say its hard to find 27" tires and tubes have never visited Dick's, gone onto performancebike.com, or traveled any further into the internet than Bikeforums. Personally, 27" tires and tubes are still widely available (they may not come in fancy colors, but who cares). While the market is currently swamped with 700c tires and tubes you'll certainly still be able to find 27" quality tire and tubes, and since the selection is "limited" you'll have no problem differentiating good from bad.
ZiP0082
11-28-08, 09:55 PM
question: from experience, how much weight loss from switching out steel 27" for aluminum 700c? i feel like in the past I've been able to shed almost 5 lbs -- is that possible?
spray2020
11-29-08, 12:17 AM
in my opinion-
looks are a big thing when it comes to bikes- especially fixed gears
and since everyone is talking about availability of colors of rims/tires etc:
(taken from the ssfg poser post)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/AirFob/P1050742.jpg
that is true and good, but colored 700 c wheels n tires on a 27" frame... that starts to look tarckish to me.
although the aerospoke looks clearly out of place- 700c wheels on a 27" frame-
I think it looks out of place- especially since its trying o simulate a track bike that have tight geometry (although i know even when it looks tight it doesnt always mean its tight)
and appearance wize, 27" wheels on a 27" frame done in a clean way would look much sleaker than this thing (my opinion)
to be honest, I have 27" wheels on my older conversion and it rides great- sunrims with track hubs-
it cant compare to a track frame- but it works well for a road conversion.
Geordi Laforge
11-29-08, 12:40 AM
you realize that 700c is not limited to track bicycles, right? road bicycles (nearly all new models) use 700c. And the reason for manufactures and enthusiasts prefer 700c is not for colors, it is for massive size of the selection of makes and models and sizes. The selection for 27" is vastly smaller - 700c is practically the new standard for road and track.
And cherry-picking a goofy bike picture does not shore up your argument. Anyone can click over to velospace and find many attractive conversions with 700c wheels. Try it yourself.
JimmyOneSmith
11-29-08, 05:36 PM
i got my 27" wheel refunded from ebay, I went ahead and purchased a entire new 700c wheelset. I guess when it came down to it, I liked the idea that my ride had a common wheelset making easier to maintain and upgrade. ALSO if i ever did decide to change up frames or upgrade wheels again i have a pair that can be used with any new conversion. Thanks everyone for the help.
but the point you say about not being able to tell the difference of a conversion with 700c wheel vs. 27".... I sure can see a difference in relation to the frame-
Quick
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2468510219_46e0631b8f.jpg?v=0
Yes or no
spray2020
11-29-08, 10:18 PM
^
with that picture I agree its hard to tell-
either way-
riding on modern 27" wheels with track hubs is fine for the street- and finding good tires for them at a bike shop is easy- you might not have as much of a selection- but they are perfectly good for a conversion.
I was never referring to old 27" rims with new hubs
but something like these
http://www.broadwayvintage.net/ebayauctions/IMG_0805.JPG
http://www.broadwayvintage.net/ebayauctions/IMG_0807.JPG
http://www.broadwayvintage.net/ebayauctions/IMG_0812.JPG
Geordi Laforge
11-29-08, 11:01 PM
I see no reason to use 27" other than for minor aesthetic reasons -- and even though is not a substantial reason since many conversions with 700c wheels look just fine. And I predict the selection of 27" wheel goods will diminish while other standards take its place. Why even bother?
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