"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Hincapie aims for PR. again.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/dec08/dec07news

what do you think of his chances?

Hincapie is the man. He can win that race too.

i hope he does.

Who is going to help him win Paris Roubaix?

Paris Roubaix is definitely my favorite one day race. I hope George wins it before he retires.

Yall will enjoy this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b3Qf8PPOHk&feature=related

Who is going to help him win Paris Roubaix?

God.

God.

Doesn't Lance race for a different team now?

Doesn't Lance race for a different team now?

You and I both know Lance is faster than God.

You and I both know Lance is faster than God.

there goes mount doom.

http://www.code4lib.org/files/lightning.jpg

:50:
I thought God was Belgian

paris roubaix is a real race, the person that wins doesnt need help from anybody to do so.

paris roubaix is a real race, the person that wins doesnt need help from anybody to do so.

Sure, just like in 2001.

there goes mount doom.

http://www.code4lib.org/files/lightning.jpg

God knows I was joking. I sent him a PM.

paris roubaix is a real race, the person that wins doesnt need help from anybody to do so.

Do you actually watch or participate in bike races?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/dec08/dec07news

what do you think of his chances?

I'll be rooting for him for sure. Hincapie is a cool dude, a class act, and a strong rider. A local boy, a favorite. Waiting for him to win that big one.

good i really like seeing george racing the classics.

I wonder which unfortunate equipment choice he'll make this year.

Sure, just like in 2001.

put merckx in that situation and he would have won...

my statement was partly a joke.. yes a team can dominate the race like in 2001...

Watch out for the ditches: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7iGl1-psQQ

I'm not a GH hater, but come on.

He simply doesn't have the track record to be considered anything more than an outside contender.

I wonder which unfortunate equipment choice he'll make this year.

My thoughts exactly.

I wonder which unfortunate equipment choice he'll make this year. He will be riding a Scott.

He will be riding a Scott.

Yeah, and when was the last time you saw a guy from Saunier Duval/Prodir in the top 20 of P-R?

If we're going to predict his results based on his equipment and not his legs, I'd go with a Trek or a Giant over a Scott, any day.

i hope he does.

+1 Guy has had some rotten luck.

I'm not a GH hater, but come on.

He simply doesn't have the track record to be considered anything more than an outside contender.

an outside contender is fine with me. its more fun to root for the underdogs anyway.

would it really slow him down that much to put some light sealant in the tires?

I'm not a GH hater, but come on.

He simply doesn't have the track record to be considered anything more than an outside contender.

Absolutely true. I'll still be rooting for him.

I've said some stuff over the years, but I would love to see a Hincapie victory at Paris-Roubaix. His luck is tremendously horrible so no doubt we will most likely be treated to another horrendous failure.

Personally I thought his year was the year he snapped the steerer tube.

Last year was a :wtf:

I don't think he'll win this year either, but if he comes into the velodrome in contention I will be out of my seat jumping up and down for sure. Guilty pleasure.

I've said some stuff over the years, but I would love to see a Hincapie victory at Paris-Roubaix. His luck is tremendously horrible so no doubt we will most likely be treated to another horrendous failure.

When you want something so badly, and fail so spectacularly year after year, something more than bad luck is at play.

Just sayin'...

Yeah, and when was the last time you saw a guy from Saunier Duval/Prodir in the top 20 of P-R?

If we're going to predict his results based on his equipment and not his legs, I'd go with a Trek or a Giant over a Scott, any day.

How do you know I meant it in a bad manner? Or if I even meant it at all?:p

Personally, I think George will pull it off in 2009. Laugh and crucify me if you want to, but that's what I think.

I'm not a GH hater, but come on.

He simply doesn't have the track record to be considered anything more than an outside contender.

Hincapie has an excellent record in Paris-Roubaix and if he goes into the race with form will easily be in the top ten favourites.

Unibet already are showing odds for 09 and have him well up there. Deservedly so, although I reckon a bit of Devolder at 16's or Stuey at 20's is a better bet.

Fabian Cancellara 4.00
Tom Boonen 4.00
Alessandro Ballan 9.00
Juan Antonio Flecha 10.00
Leif Hoste 12.00
George Hincapie 14.00
Stijn Devolder 16.00
Greg Van Avermaet 20.00
Stuart O'Grady 20.00

Hincapie has an excellent record in Paris-Roubaix and if he goes into the race with form will easily be in the top ten favourites.

Unibet already are showing odds for 09 and have him well up there. Deservedly so, although I reckon a bit of Devolder at 16's or Stuey at 20's is a better bet.

Fabian Cancellara 4.00
Tom Boonen 4.00
Alessandro Ballan 9.00
Juan Antonio Flecha 10.00
Leif Hoste 12.00
George Hincapie 14.00
Stijn Devolder 16.00
Greg Van Avermaet 20.00
Stuart O'Grady 20.00

Bookies odds are made from the amount people are actually betting on the riders. I think they are taking into account all of the delusional American cycling fans. :)

Maybe, but have a look at Hincapies PR record. It's good, although personally I'd put dough on Spartacus, Tommeke, Ballan, Flecha, Devolder and Stuey over Hincapie.

Maybe, but have a look at Hincapies PR record. It's good, although personally I'd put dough on Spartacus, Tommeke, Ballan, Flecha, Devolder and Stuey over Hincapie.

flecha has hincapieitus (almost always there with the final selection, but just short when it comes to the W).

i have serious doubts that o'grady will ever walk away with a cobblestone trophy again.

I'm not a GH hater, but come on.

He simply doesn't have the track record to be considered anything more than an outside contender.

Isn't that the point? He's the hardworking underdog. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Plagued by bad look, possibly past his prime. What more could you ask for when picking somebody to root for?

i have serious doubts that o'grady will ever walk away with a cobblestone trophy again.


Why? He was impressive last year. I thought it was only team tactics that caused him to miss the break. IMO he was probably the second or third strongest in the race. No injuries to recover from this year either.

My thoughts exactly.

Last year i was at Hincapies/High Roads hotel at PR and was shocked to see the horrible wheel choice he made. The race had not even begun and i knew he was out of it.

Why? He was impressive last year. I thought it was only team tactics that caused him to miss the break. IMO he was probably the second or third strongest in the race. No injuries to recover from this year either.

It was eqipment choice that caused him problems at the critical point.

^^^ He's referring to O'Grady

ahh, sorry. gotcha.

Certainly he CAN win this race. He has the experience, and more than enough talent to get it done. He's just not had the luck. Sadly, luck may be the #1 factor in winning or losing this race.

... Brad

Last year i was at Hincapies/High Roads hotel at PR and was shocked to see the horrible wheel choice he made. The race had not even begun and i knew he was out of it.

small factoid:

Velonews reported on the day of P-R 2008 that Hincapie had broken a rim, and this failure spread like wildfire through the press and internet.

Six months later, Velonews published a retraction in print, saying that his wheel in fact never broke, and he only suffered a simple flat. It appeared buried in the end pages.
I'm not sure what happened with his wheel in 08, but it would not be the first time Velonews gets it completely wrong.

The good news for GH is that Boonen is in a huge amount of legal trouble over his cocaine possession and may not race this spring.

He simply doesn't have the track record to be considered anything more than an outside contender.

You're joking, right?

... Brad

small factoid:

Velonews reported on the day of P-R 2008 that Hincapie had broken a rim, and this failure spread like wildfire through the press and internet.

Six months later, Velonews published a retraction in print, saying that his wheel in fact never broke, and he only suffered a simple flat. It appeared buried in the end pages.
I'm not sure what happened with his wheel in 08, but it would not be the first time Velonews gets it completely wrong.

The good news for GH is that Boonen is in a huge amount of legal trouble over his cocaine possession and may not race this spring.

if you consider that good news, then you must be an idiot.

small factoid:

Velonews reported on the day of P-R 2008 that Hincapie had broken a rim, and this failure spread like wildfire through the press and internet.

Six months later, Velonews published a retraction in print, saying that his wheel in fact never broke, and he only suffered a simple flat. It appeared buried in the end pages.
I'm not sure what happened with his wheel in 08, but it would not be the first time Velonews gets it completely wrong.

The good news for GH is that Boonen is in a huge amount of legal trouble over his cocaine possession and may not race this spring.

Where is the article?

From cyclingnews.com
The American all-rounder won two races this year, but once again missed out on a Roubaix victory due to mechanical problems. "It's a race that I have unfinished business with, and in my opinion, there's nobody better than me in that race. It's just a question of how I finish things off and having good luck," he said.

The race is 4 months away folks. That's 4 years in bike racing. For all we know every PT team but Columbia and Garmin will be busted in a giant doping crackdown, which would make his chances pretty good. On the other hand he might be abducted by aliens and his DNA switched with Pcads, in which case he'd have more effect on the mean IQ of BF than he'd have on the PR field.

Where is the article?

From cyclingnews.com
The American all-rounder won two races this year, but once again missed out on a Roubaix victory due to mechanical problems. "It's a race that I have unfinished business with, and in my opinion, there's nobody better than me in that race. It's just a question of how I finish things off and having good luck," he said.

It's in one of the summer print issues of Velonews -I can't find it on line.

from here:

http://www.bikingbis.com/blog/_archives/2008/4/13/3636624.html

"VeloNews (http://www.velonews.com/article/74625/boonen-wins-paris-roubaix) reported that Hincapie flatted out twice. Two punctures in a single race could be considered bad luck, but that shouldn't be unexpected in a race over cobblestones. Other reports say he broke a wheel."

Velonews then reported he broke a wheel, then retracted, it seems like he actually only had two flats, but someone started a rumor of a broken wheel. I never saw a pic of the broken wheel, maybe someone else knows of this.
It's interesting when you do a Google search, the only reference to a broken wheel comes from one exact phrase:

" But the big New Yorker soon found himself with a broken wheel."

That appears repeated over and over. Journalism school of ctrl-C, ctrl-V.

You're joking, right?

... Brad

No, I'm quite serious. Just for refresher, here are selected palmares from his official website:

Palmarès
2008
1st, Stage 7, Tour of California
5th, Ronde van Vlaanderen
9th, Paris-Roubaix
1st, Stage 2, Dauphine-Libere

2007
1st, Overall, Tour of Missouri
1st, Stage 2, Tour of Missouri
2nd, USPRO National Championships Road Race

2006
1st, US Professional Road Race Championship
1st, Stage 2, Tour of California
1st, Stage 5, Tour of California
1st, Sage 4, Eneco Tour of Benelux
3rd, Tour of Flanders
5th, Gent-Wevelgem
9th, Clasica San Sebastian

2005
1st, Stage 15, Tour de France
1st, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne
1st, Stage 1, Dauphine Libere
1st, Stage 7, Dauphine Libere
1st, Grand Prix Ouest-France
2nd, Paris-Roubaix
7th, Tour of Flanders

2004
1st, Overall, Three Days of the Panne
3rd, T-Mobile International
4th, Gent-Wevelgum
4th, Luk Challenge
5th, Overall, Paris-Nice
5th, GP Eddy Merckx
8th, Paris-Roubaix
8th, Champoinship of Zurich
10th, Ronde van Vlaanderen

2003
2nd Stage 7 and points clasification, Volta a Catalunya
7th GC, Tour of Belgium

2002
2nd, Classic Haribo
2nd, Stage 3B, Trois Jours de la Panne
3rd, US Championship
3rd, Gent - Wevelgem
3rd, Trois Jours de la Panne
3rd, Volta Ao Algarve
4th, Ronde Van Vlaanderen
6th, Paris - Roubaix

2001
1st, Gent - Wevelgem
1st, BMC San Francisco Grand Prix
3rd, First Union USPRO Championships
3rd, Trofeo Luis Puig
3rd, First Union Invitational
3rd, Stage 2, Vuelta Valenciana
4th, Paris - Roubaix
10th, Meisterschaft Von Zürich

2000
2nd, US Championship
3rd, First Union Classic
3rd, Stage 8, Paris - Nice
3rd, Stage 3, Vuelta Valenciana
6th, Paris - Roubaix

1999
1st, First Union Classic
1st, Points Competition, Tour de Luxembourg
1st, Stage 6, Prutour
2nd, Stage 4, Volta a Catalunya
2nd, Stage 1 & 2A, Prutour
3rd, First Union Invitational
3rd, Stage 1, 2 & 5, Volta a Catalunya
3rd, Stage 5, Tour de Luxembourg
4th, Paris - Roubaix
4th, Gent - Wevelgem

1998
1st, US Championship
2nd, First Union Classic
3rd, Christiana Care Cup
3rd, Stage 3, Tour de France
3rd, Stage 1, Ruta del Sol

1997
1st, Stage 1, Setmana Catalana
46th, Milan-San Remo
59th, Paris-Roubaix

1996
9th, Tour of Mallorca
29th, Paris-Roubaix
76th, Olympic Road Race

1995
1st, 8 of Chaam (Holland)
3rd, Thrift Drug Classic
3rd, CoreStates NJNB Classic
8th, First Union Grand Prix
10th, CoreStates USPRO Championships
11th, Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
21st, Paris-Roubaix
27th, Het Volk

1994
2nd, Tour of Luxembourg - two stage wins
3rd, West Virginia Classic - one stage win
3rd, K-Mart Classic -one stage win

1993
Union Bank Road Race: first
Fresca National Championships (Dublin, Ohio): second, criterium; 13th, road race
U.S. Olympic Festival-’93 (San Antonio, Texas): first, criterium; second, road race; fourth, team time trial
Korbel Champagne Cup Series: fifth overall, amateur

1992
U.S. Olympic Road Trials and National Championships (Altoona, Pa.): first, team time trial; 11th, individual time trial

1991
Junior World Road Cycling Championships (Colorado Springs, Colo.): second, team time trial; third, individual pursuit; 35th, road race
USCF Junior National Road Cycling Championships (San Antonio, Texas): first, individual pursuit (17-18), individual time trial

1990
Junior World Road Cycling Championships (Cleveland, England): seventh, road race
USCF Junior National Track Cycling Championships (San Diego, Calif.): first, individual pursuit (17-18), team pursuit, points race, kilometer time trial
1989
USCF Junior National Track Cycling Championships (Colorado Springs, Colo.): first, omnium (15-16)
USCF Junior National Road Cycling Championships (Colorado Springs, Colo.): first, team time trial; second, criterium; fifth, individual time trial
1988
USCF Junior National Track Cycling Championships (Allentown, Pa.): first, omnium (14-15) USCF Junior National Road Championships (Trexlertown, Pa.): first, road race; second, individual time trial, criterium USCF Junior National Cyclo-Cross Championships (Boston, Mass.): fifth
1987
Junior National Track Cycling Championships (Trexlertown, Pa.): fourth, omnium (14-15)

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I've omitted a lot of TTT's and other stage race results, but ALL of his individual wins are listed above.

maybe i'm stupid. i think thats a solid record

its alright i guess...