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Allister
01-13-02, 10:17 PM
This story appeared in today's Courier Mail (Brisbane's main rag) and was reproduced on the bikeqld mailing list. It also made the national news (JJJ radio) this morning.

The most tragic thing about this story is that none of it surprises me.


Death driver already wanted by police
Ben Dorries and Jim Tucker
Courier Mail 14 Jan 2002

A WOMAN, 40, wanted in connection with the hit-and-run death of triathlete Luke Harrop already had an arrest warrant against her over a driving offence.

The warrant was issued when she failed to appear in court to face charges of driving while disqualified.

Mr Harrop's inconsolable family yesterday made the heartbreaking decision to switch off his life-support system, a day after he was hit by a car while training on his bike on the Gold Coast.

The popular sportsman, nicknamed Harry by the close-knit triathlon community, was pronounced dead at 1pm yesterday. His sister, former world triathlon champion and Sydney Olympian, Loretta, was by his bedside.

Earlier, two brain stem tests had proved negative.

Mr Harrop, 24, had been on life support since Saturday morning after he and fellow triathlete Craig O'Connell were struck by a stolen car as they were in a group cycling on a regular ride at Robina.

The woman motorist drove from the crash scene and was chased by a cyclist before she got into a scuffle with a man at a nearby fruit barn, then disappeared into bush.

Yesterday, police seeking the woman talked to her on her mobile phone.

Acting Det-Insp Bob Bennett said the woman had agreed to surrender herself to police but had failed to arrive at an agreed meeting place.

"She has broken an appointment to meet us . . . we had been urging her to come forward," he said.

O'Connell, 26, said from hospital the scene of the incident had looked like something out of a horror movie.

He said he heard a "horrible crunch", and turned to see Luke Harrop's bicycle on the bonnet of the out-of-control car.


"The next thing the car hit me and I went straight up on to the bonnet," O'Connell said.

"It carried me for a few seconds. Then I was dumped on to the road and I had to roll off and crawl out of the way of oncoming cars.

"It's pretty amazing that I'm still alive and not too badly injured."

O'Connell suffered fractured vertebrae and a fractured foot and even had cut marks from Harrop's bicycle chain on his back. He was later released from the Gold Coast Hospital.

Act Det-Insp Bennett said police knew the identity of the driver, who was believed to be from northern New South Wales.

He said witnesses reported she had been "fidgeting" in the car and had appeared to veer into the group of cyclists.

She abandoned the car, stolen on the Coast last week, and fled into bush near the Coco's fruit barn at Carrara.

Harrop and O'Connell had been training for yesterday's leg of the Australian triathlon series at Surfers Paradise.

Harrop's closest training mates choked back tears to compete in the second round of the series.

Emotions were raw and the grief all too public. It was only after the race that organisers broke the news that Harrop, 24, and the life of so many parties, had lost his fight to live.

Harrop had held the dream of representing Australia in triathlon at this year's Manchester Commonwealth Games with sister Loretta, the Sydney Olympian and former world champion.

She is inconsolable and there must be doubts she will race again after this latest tragedy.

Since the death of their mother, Dianne, from brain cancer in 1993, Loretta had been a mother figure as well as a loving sister to her kid brother.

She built an annual family get-together around last year's Noosa Triathlon and the festive atmosphere Luke thrived in.

"In the last two days, Luke has been surrounded by friends, family and the triathlon community. Luke's injuries were unfortunately so severe that not even his determination and strength could overcome them," the Harrop family said in a short statement yesterday.

"His love and zest for life touched everyone around him."

Olympian Miles Stewart broke down at the post-race news, race winner Courtney Atkinson barely held it together and tears flowed as the close-knit triathlon community went into tailspin.

"To me, this wasn't a national race . . . it was saying goodbye," a numb Stewart said as he was consoled by wife Kate.

"Luke was a great kid who lived life to the full. He never sat still for a moment."

Stewart, riding in a training pack behind Harrop, had attended his friend at the time of the hit-and-run at Robina when he sustained the serious head injuries that put him in the Gold Coast Hospital on a life-support system.
"Luke was a training partner of mine and very close friend to a lot of people in the sport," Atkinson said.

"The bike lap was a fitting tribute to him. I noticed some of the guys with a real sincere tear. Unless you are part of such a (close-knit) group, you can't understand what is being felt.

"Everyone went out there in that race trying to to win it for him. It didn't matter who did, it was all raced for him."

Harrop's flatmate Chris Hill, the world No. 1, withdrew from the race. The race numbers for Harrop's girlfriend Emma Snowsill and Loretta also were missing on a day when sport took a backseat.

Accenture Triathlon Series director Andrew Fraser said a formal tribute would be made to Harrop's memory at the third round of the series at St Kilda on January 27.


Chris L
01-13-02, 11:11 PM
Thanks for posting this Allister. I actually work at Robina right now, and it is "on the way" to a couple of other rides I do occasionally. I only hope when the silly b*tch inevitably wipes herself out, that she doesn't take anymore people with her.

bikerider
01-13-02, 11:51 PM
A WOMAN, 40, wanted in connection with the hit-and-run death of triathlete Luke Harrop already had an arrest warrant against her over a driving offence.

The warrant was issued when she failed to appear in court to face charges of driving while disqualified.

I love how they do not name the woman. Is the fact that she is "wanted" or that she had an outstanding warrant against her somehow in dispute?

I see they took her license away and she still drove. How unusual. I presume this "stolen" car didn't belong to a family member or friend.



Yesterday, police seeking the woman talked to her on her mobile phone.

Acting Det-Insp Bob Bennett said the woman had agreed to surrender herself to police but had failed to arrive at an agreed meeting place.

"She has broken an appointment to meet us . . . we had been urging her to come forward," he said.

They should have tried "Please, pretty please?" She probably fancies herself to be the victim.


He said witnesses reported she had been "fidgeting" in the car and had appeared to veer into the group of cyclists.

I wonder from where these witnesses were observing.


This story appeared in today's Courier Mail (Brisbane's main rag) and was reproduced on the bikeqld mailing list. It also made the national news (JJJ radio) this morning.

Not to belittle this tragedy but this reminds me somewhat of the time that Lance Armstrong was involved in a relatively minor incident with an ignorant motorist and the motorist received a relatively heavy penalty considering there was no personal injury AFAIK. It is unfortunate that it has to involve a celebrity to get the attention of the general public.


The most tragic thing about this story is that none of it surprises me.

Nor I. But then I'm told I'm cynical.

EDIT: Mistake in UBB tags.


Chris L
01-14-02, 12:01 AM
There's more. I just found this on yahoo.

Monday January 14, 04:23 PM

Hit-and-run suspect hangs up on police

A woman who Queensland police want to talk to in connection with the hit-and-run death of promising young triathlete Luke Harrop hung up on detectives when they contacted her today on a mobile phone.

The unemployed woman, described as being of Maori extraction, has long black hair, is 168cm tall and has acne markings on her skin.

She is is believed to have cuts to her face and arms and is still in the Gold Coast or Tweed Heads area. [:eek:]

A woman driving a stolen car crashed into Harrop, 24, and Brisbane triathlete Craig O'Connell while they were on a training ride at Robina on the Gold Coast on Saturday morning.

Harrop died in hospital of severe head injuries.

O'Connell broke two vertebrae but has been released from hospital and is expected to make a full recovery.

Police Inspector Bob Bennett said detectives had attempted to speak with a Tweed Heads woman this morning but she ended the conversation by hanging up on investigators.

On Sunday the woman offered to meet police but failed to turn up at an arranged time.

Insp Bennett said it appeared the woman had gone to ground.

Police have issued a photograph of the woman but have not named her.

***

chewa
01-14-02, 12:51 AM
God, that's awful, but unfortunately not unusual. What'll she get charged with-- manslaughter or careless driving?

Chris L
01-14-02, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by chewa
God, that's awful, but unfortunately not unusual. What'll she get charged with-- manslaughter or careless driving?

In my view, it should be a blatant case of murder, but it will probably be something p!ss weak like "careless driving". Of course, if the murder weapon had been something other than a car, things might be different.

chewa
01-14-02, 04:08 AM
I'm with you on that, but politico's value motorists and the industry more than someone who rides a bike.

velocipedio
01-14-02, 06:35 AM
She left the scene of the accident, she fled police, she renegged on an agreement to turn herself in. Methinks someone in a black robe and periwig will make a case for murder.

John E
01-14-02, 07:48 AM
This case is SO blatant that a second-degree murder charge is warranted. Since she thinks nothing of stealing a car and driving without a license, she needs to be locked away for a few decades.

LittleBigMan
01-14-02, 04:28 PM
:cry:

Allister
01-14-02, 04:32 PM
A photo of the woman was all over TV last night. I haven't been able to find a picture on the net so far of this woman, but I swear she's a dead ringer for Satan's mother in law.

Here's the latest update from abc.net.au:



Posted: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 5:04 AEST

Alleged hit-and-run driver found

Brisbane police say they have found a 40-year-old woman wanted for questioning over the death of leading triathlete Luke Harrop.

Police say after a search in both Queensland and New South Wales, they found the woman in Brisbane in the early hours of this morning.

She is being questioned over the hit-and-run car accident on the Gold Coast last Saturday in which Harrop, 24, was struck.

He died on Sunday.

Now all we have to do is wait the three or four years it takes the justice system to do anything.

John E
01-15-02, 07:56 AM
Now all we have to do is wait the three or four years it takes the justice system to do anything.

As long as they keep her locked up, the time delay doesn't bother me.

Greg
01-15-02, 02:01 PM
This story just sickends me.

I do hope she gets what she deserves.

Chris L
01-15-02, 02:56 PM
Apparently she's up on 10 different charges from this thing. I'll post more when I can find it. I'm hoping she'll at least be banned from driving permanently.

tourman
01-15-02, 03:29 PM
Banning her from driving permantly won't work she was already banned when she did this(allegedly) so I think she should go spend some time in a penal institution.But it sounds like you have the same bleeding hearts there as we do here in Canada.If she had used a gun it would be murder but because it was a car it s a poor misguided accident.Give me a break!

Chris L
01-15-02, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by tourman
Banning her from driving permantly won't work she was already banned when she did this(allegedly) so I think she should go spend some time in a penal institution.

That too. Thrown in jail for driving while banned, and banned permanently from driving for what she did while driving with the ban. There's no reason for her to get a licence when she is released. I also saw her pic yesterday, and my reaction is the same as Allister's. I'm glad I saw it before I had lunch and not just after.

Here's something from the Gold Coast Bulletin:

Hit-run suspect held in custody
16Jan02

THE woman accused of the hit-and-run death of triathlete Luke Harrop faced a Brisbane court yesterday, charged with manslaughter and dangerous driving.

New Zealander Sandra Jaye Wilde, 41, appeared for a brief hearing in the Brisbane Magistrates Court after a three-day police hunt ended with her arrest in the suburb of Northgate at 1.30am yesterday.

Police would allege Wilde was under the influence of an intoxica- ting substance when she crashed a stolen Ford Laser sedan into Harrop and team-mate Craig O'Connell during a training ride on the Coast at 6.20am on Saturday.

Wilde, wearing a bright-green sarong and a brown jumper, sat in the dock with her back to the public gallery for most of the hearing.

Detectives swooped on a boarding house in Gympie Street after a tip-off from Wilde's new flatmate, who became aware of the manhunt after watching television news reports.

Police released a photograph of Wilde when she failed to surrender after two mobile phone conversations with police during their search for her in Brisbane and on the Gold Coast.

She faces a total of 10 charges. Magistrate Brian Zahner remanded her in custody to appear in Southport Magistrates Court on January 29.

Chris L
01-30-02, 01:03 AM
Just an update here. She has apparently been charged with Manslaughter, Dangerous Driving of a Motor Vehicle Causing Death, Unlawful use of a Motor Vehicle and a sh*tload of other things. Evidently she'll be held in custody to appear again on May 1 for a committal hearing, although, frighteningly, a bail application is possible :eek: .

john999
01-30-02, 05:51 AM
But she was drunk, that's a 'mitigating circumstance'.

If she has children, she is most likely to walk out of the court free.

diamondback
01-30-02, 09:48 AM
so sad, such a needless tragedy

In Texas
hit and run - felony
causes death - negligent homicide
stolen vehicle - felony
resisting arrest(hung up and didn't turn herself in) - probable felony at least the most serious misdemeanor
driving without a license - at least a misdemeanor

Prison time = most likely life or close to it
possibility of parol - doubtful, maybe after 20-30 years if shes lucky

(if the bicyclist would have been a police officer off duty or not she would have a 99.9999% chance of receiving the death penalty)

some of the things people have been arrested and gone to jail for here are failure to wear a seatbelt and secure children, unpaid parking tickets, unpaid child support etc...

Voting matters, contact your representative, make angy phone calls, followup with email and regular mail, go visit your police, do whatever to get this lady put away for a long time. no excuses

bikerider
01-30-02, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by john999
But she was drunk, that's a 'mitigating circumstance'.

If she has children, she is most likely to walk out of the court free.
Sad but true.


Diamondback:

I doubt that she would get a stiff sentence in Texas - a decidedly anti-cyclist state if there was one - for killing a cyclist with her car.

In this case the motorist did not even get jail time:

http://bicycleaustin.com/justice/clough.html

Although the case is of an entirely different nature, it illustrates how lenient the prosecution is in cases where the victim is a cyclist.

Besides, in Texas criminally negligent homicide is a "State Jail Felony: 180 days - 2 years in jail; $10,000 also possible in addition to jail time".

However since she commited real crimes such as auto theft, she would likely get a stiff sentence despite killing a cyclist rather than because of it.

Of couse you are right about being diligent and vocal. However the fact remains that cyclists are the minority and as long as governments rule by public opinion polls then cyclists will always get the short end of the stick.

Chris L
02-06-02, 12:31 AM
Awww, WTF! Hey Bikerider, I think she should be subjected to a lifetime of ******! Waddya' reckon?

LightBoy
02-07-02, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Chris L
Awww, WTF! Hey Bikerider, I think she should be subjected to a lifetime of ******! Waddya' reckon?

You know, you've mentioned this "******" before, though you would not provide details. Being the inquisitive sort that I am, I researched the topic on my own. Big mistake.

I feel very dirty. I will never be clean again. You so suck Chris.

Chris L
02-08-02, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by LightBoy
I feel very dirty. I will never be clean again. You so suck Chris.

Hey, if you read the other thread, you couldn't say that I didn't warn you.

LightBoy
02-08-02, 10:15 PM
I know, I know. But still, it's just so...well, ICK!

Chris L
02-09-02, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by LightBoy
I know, I know. But still, it's just so...well, ICK!

Yeah, well, you don't think I would have sent anything nice to either this person or that spammer the other day now do you?

LightBoy
02-09-02, 11:24 AM
Of course not. And in the end, I do not blame you for the scarring my eyes suffered, but rather my own youthful curiosity.

Heck, I should be thanking you. Now I have another weapon in my anti-spamming arsenal.

Chris L
02-09-02, 02:28 PM
And another thing, did you see the picture of the woman who was guilty of this offence? Let me tell you, not even ****** is that bad! And this pic was on every newspaper in Queensland :eek: .

Chris L
08-13-02, 03:16 AM
Two years and for months in prison.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4893952%255E1702,00.html

I, for one, think this is pretty lenient considering the multitude of other charges this woman was facing.

Stor Mand
08-13-02, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Chris L
Two years and for months in prison.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4893952%255E1702,00.html

I, for one, think this is pretty lenient considering the multitude of other charges this woman was facing.

Since her sentence is so small, maybe give her a little caning for good measure. That would straighten her ass out.
Might be good for most any offender.
:beer:

brent_dube
08-13-02, 01:09 PM
That's really sad, and it espcially hits close to home because in my mind, any cyclist would think that just as well could have been them.

wabbit
08-13-02, 03:14 PM
She probably would have gotten more jail time had she gone on trial, so she likely decided to plea and they probably dropped some of the other charges. Look at it this way, at least the guy's family didn't have to sit through a trial and hear the horrible details of how he died, it was resolved relatively quickly instead of taking months. I agree she should have gotten more time though- it's a pretty pathetic sentence, but that's all they can offer. NO doubt, laws should be changed to make the penalty stiffer.

bikerider
08-13-02, 07:24 PM
This is why I can't understand why people would choose a gun to kill someone when they could simply use a car.

Dutchy
08-13-02, 11:03 PM
Look at it this way, at least the guy's family didn't have to sit through a trial and hear the horrible details of how he died

Actually I somehow think they have already heard all the details of this "accident" as he was on a training ride with a group of other tri-athletes.:(


This is why I can't understand why people would choose a gun to kill someone when they could simply use a car.

Exactly. Want to kill someone? Use a car, and leave the scene, then plead the lesser charge.:mad:

It is a sad reflection of our society when a driver can be involved in a hit & run and recieve such a P!ss weak sentence. I would accept a lighter penalty if the driver stopped and offered assitance but this woman did not.

CHEERS.

Mark

Chris L
08-16-02, 03:16 PM
Apparently the Attorney-General of Queensland is considering re-opening the case. I'll post more information when I have it.

Chris L
09-14-02, 11:10 PM
Indeed, the case has been reopened, although I only have the word of the Gold Coast Bulletin on that. Hardly the most reliable newspaper in the world.

earleybird
09-15-02, 02:39 AM
I have only just read this and its the most tragic waste of life I have heard about for ages. Its the constant fear/ anticipation of being knocked off my bike that takes the pleasure out of cycling a lot of the time.
In the UK we have a lot of cyclists die from being knocked off their bikes, perhaps because a lot of us train and ride on busy main roads for tri and time trialing. The Government are trying to legislate against cyclists and make it law to wear a helmet as if its the cyclist's fault but the onus should always be on car drivers to give cyclists and pedestrians plenty of room.

Couldn't the Bike Forum organise some sort of condolance/ tribute message perhaps we could all sign it?

Chris L
09-15-02, 03:45 AM
The incident actually happened several months ago (January). It's probably a little late now for condolences (although I think it's a worthwhile idea otherwise). Still, if Ms ****** gets what she deserves eventually...