Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - 110vs 120 track ends

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clarmontmunchie
12-18-08, 07:55 PM
recently a friend of mine offered to sell me his old njs frame. my concern is that it has 110mm ends, does this effect the strength of the frame, it would be ridden mostly on the street. would it be smarter to wait for a frame that has 120 ends.


Live2Die
12-18-08, 07:56 PM
no but you'll want a 110 hub. or you can cold set it but then I'll kill you :)

jdms mvp
12-18-08, 08:27 PM
recently a friend of mine offered to sell me his old njs frame. my concern is that it has 110mm ends, does this effect the strength of the frame, it would be ridden mostly on the street. would it be smarter to wait for a frame that has 120 ends.

are you really asking if it's less "strong" ....

c'mon now. :notamused:


clarmontmunchie
12-18-08, 08:56 PM
i was just wondering what the pros/cons are of using a frame with thinner dropouts.

deathhare
12-18-08, 09:03 PM
It doesnt have thinner drop outs. The rear spacing is just narrower.

jdms mvp
12-18-08, 09:10 PM
if by thinner you mean it used 8mm slotted axles vs 10mm ones...but that doesn't have anything to do with frame strength either...

this keirin frame that you'd be riding i assume is NJS approved, which was approved from some board in japan for track racing. i think* it'd be strong enough for you....

jjvw
12-18-08, 09:38 PM
This is a bad idea. Studies have shown that you are more likely to tip over with an old style, narrower frame. This is why modern road frames have moved to 135mm spacing. They are far more stabile.

K_phomma
12-18-08, 10:41 PM
If you get an NJS frame City law is that it shall be outfitted with NJS parts

clarmontmunchie
12-19-08, 09:56 AM
how much less stable would the 110 ends be in comparison? would this be a problem riding on city streets?

tmh657
12-19-08, 10:19 AM
This is a bad idea. Studies have shown that you are more likely to tip over with an old style, narrower frame. This is why modern road frames have moved to 135mm spacing. They are far more stabile.

clarmontmunchie,

Just because you read something in here does not make it so. Find a large grain of salt and digest it.

deathhare
12-19-08, 10:23 AM
troll.

jjvw
12-19-08, 10:31 PM
Just because you read something in here does not make it so. Find a large grain of salt and digest it.

Are you really this easy to fool?

fuzz2050
12-19-08, 11:09 PM
um....wider hubs provide for a wheel with less dish. I suppose you could, if you really wanted make a fixed wheel with dish...just for kicks and giggles. Then you could use a wider hub to reduce the dishing you just gave it...

I take that all back, wide hubs are good for bikes with many gears. The more gears the wider the hub should be. with

jdms mvp
12-19-08, 11:46 PM
um....wider hubs provide for a wheel with less dish. I suppose you could, if you really wanted make a fixed wheel with dish...just for kicks and giggles. Then you could use a wider hub to reduce the dishing you just gave it...

I take that all back, wide hubs are good for bikes with many gears. The more gears the wider the hub should be. with

the hub shells on da7600 110mm and 120mm are exactly the same. the only difference is the axle and spacers

fuzz2050
12-20-08, 09:55 AM
Precisely because single speed wheels are inherently dishless. Imagine though if there was a giant freehub on one side? That would change things a bit wouldn't it.

tmh657
12-20-08, 03:26 PM
Are you really this easy to fool?

Typing words to one another are so easy to be mis understood.

Soil_Sampler
12-20-08, 03:52 PM
Precisely because single speed wheels are inherently dishless.


um....wider hubs provide for a wheel with less dish. I suppose you could, if you really wanted make a fixed wheel with dish...

not necessarily, most single cog track hubs have some dish. some more than others.

Phils have a lot. center to flange 44.0 / 30.0