Advocacy & Safety - Can You See The Mean Dog?

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10 Wheels
12-19-08, 06:40 PM
Roy has his Mace Ready.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/10wheels/CanyouseeTheDog.jpg
Close up
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/10wheels/TheBlackDog.jpg
He didn't Like The Mace...
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/10wheels/HedidnotlikeMace.jpg
Brian Ratliff
12-19-08, 06:43 PM
I kicked a chasing dog in the snout before. Going up a hill too. Fun times.
Dchiefransom
12-19-08, 06:44 PM
Did the trike ride through the cloud? I'd have changed lanes to the left if possible.
10 Wheels
12-19-08, 06:46 PM
Did the trike ride through the cloud? I'd have changed lanes to the left if possible.
His Mace shoots out a Stream, That way he can direct it.
No Cloud.
Doohickie
12-19-08, 07:15 PM
I got chased by a corgi today. I was too amused to kick him when he nipped at me; he was just too damned cute.... and after one fruitless nip he gave up anyway.
Lot's Knife
12-19-08, 07:47 PM
Got chased by a pit bull last night. Couldn't manage the pepper spray with my bulky gloves on. Yelled and accelerated. Scared the piss out of me.
Good on Roy for helping everyone, especially the trike rider. I've never ridden a trike before, but being that low to the ground would mean a bite in the face/neck instead of the ankle/leg. Yikes!
What did the dog do when he got sprayed? Other than turning around. I've carried pepper spray for years, but haven't had to actually use it... so I'm curious.
10 Wheels
12-19-08, 08:44 PM
Good on Roy for helping everyone, especially the trike rider. I've never ridden a trike before, but being that low to the ground would mean a bite in the face/neck instead of the ankle/leg. Yikes!
What did the dog do when he got sprayed? Other than turning around. I've carried pepper spray for years, but haven't had to actually use it... so I'm curious.
Roy has used it Twice in as many days.
Yesterday we had a Pack of Four dogs. come at us.
Roy first used his High Pitched Horn. That turned three back. But the Big Dog Came right up to him, so he let go with the spray. I was too busy dodging dogs to get any pics.
They look confused, stop, and run off the road.
frankenmike
12-19-08, 08:53 PM
If you want to really confuse them, stop, turn around, and start chasing them.
10 Wheels
12-19-08, 09:12 PM
If you want to really confuse them, stop, turn around, and start chasing them.
That would confuse US......
StephenH
12-19-08, 11:10 PM
We have some mean ones around here...
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z172/stephenhazelton/MiscBikePhotos/NiteRide4.jpg
buzzman
12-19-08, 11:14 PM
dogs read us and our behavior much better than we read them. Judging by the body language of that dog his chase was more playful than aggressive. The upturned tail is, how shall I put it?- tell tale.;)*
nevertheless, he still endangers a passing cyclist by chasing, even as mock aggression and a dose of pepper spray might cure him of that behavior.
*a reference to the OP's photo. Not the photo above, though the one above looks like a pushover for sure.:)
I also see the recombo dragging their water bladder tube on the ground. Makes for good clean water.:rolleyes:
chainstrainer
12-19-08, 11:47 PM
In the first two pictures I'm seeing the wrong end of the dog for its snarl so I'll take your word for it that it was mean. In picture #3 I can see the dog's mug but I think its thought at the moment could be captioned: "WTF is that?"
buzzman
12-19-08, 11:50 PM
In the first two pictures I'm seeing the wrong end of the dog for its snarl so I'll take your word for it that it was mean. In picture #3 I can see the dog's mug but I think its thought at the moment could be captioned: "WTF is that?"
:lol:
Basil Moss
12-20-08, 07:28 AM
You have some strange dogs in America. Never seen any aggression from the over here, they just woof as you go past, defending their territory and all that. Perhaps your dogs all have a chip on their shoulders because they get maced and kicked whenever they say hello.
You have some strange dogs in America. Never seen any aggression from the over here, they just woof as you go past, defending their territory and all that. Perhaps your dogs all have a chip on their shoulders because they get maced and kicked whenever they say hello.
Nah, there are owners that train their dogs to be aggressive to strangers...
gcottay
12-20-08, 08:35 AM
I've found that dog problems are minimized riding a low trike as opposed to either a two-wheeled bent or a DF because the dogs get to see a human and not just the machine and I have a stable platform to deal with those few still interested in either rough play or true aggression.
A true wolf pack loose on the road would be a problem.
buzzman
12-20-08, 01:33 PM
I've found that dog problems are minimized riding a low trike as opposed to either a two-wheeled bent or a DF because the dogs get to see a human and not just the machine and I have a stable platform to deal with those few still interested in either rough play or true aggression.
A true wolf pack loose on the road would be a problem.
I'm pretty sure dogs are capable of discerning that a human being on a bike is exactly that- a human being on a bike. Aggressive dogs are just as likely to aggress a pedestrian as a cyclist. I don't think they are anywhere near that clueless that they have any difficulty whatsoever determining that it's a human-especially given their dependence on their sense of smell as well and they could care less about the metal machine. Their aggression towards cyclists may begin as territorial but can become almost predatory in response to the speed of the cyclist, which can trigger a chase response.
If there is a different response to a low riding trike it may have more to do with the reclined and close to the ground position of the human being, which is submissive and non-threatening as opposed to the upright position of a regular bicycle.
San Rensho
12-20-08, 05:48 PM
Not convinced from the pictures he's a mean dog. Looks like typical dog behavior, chasing you because you came into his territory. Most dogs do this playfully, not maliciuosly.
Water from a water bottle works just as good and actually aims much better than mace.
rugerben
12-20-08, 06:05 PM
I don't mace them
I convert them. Get them on our side!!
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii131/geminifan/My%20bikes/101_0721.jpg
My GF's dog, Booger. Funniest dog ever.
Not convinced from the pictures he's a mean dog. Looks like typical dog behavior, chasing you because you came into his territory. Most dogs do this playfully, not maliciuosly.
Water from a water bottle works just as good and actually aims much better than mace.
Since I'm not a licensed dog psychologist I can't claim to understand what any dog's motives are. ;)
I don't care what a dog's motives are either. Both a playful dog and a malicious dog end up having the same effect of making me crash. I agree that water is preferable to mace, but either one is a better choice to me than meeting the pavement face-first.
A true wolf pack loose on the road would be a problem.
Wolves avoid humans and would never chase a bike.
Az
JinbaIttai
12-21-08, 06:37 PM
Where do you keep the mace when you ride?
Fantasminha
12-21-08, 06:45 PM
On one of those things that you use to wear keys around your wrist on my handlebars. But I find my airhorn very effective against dogs.
StephenH
12-21-08, 09:17 PM
One of my bikes has a horn on the handlebars, which I honk at dogs that bark at me (which are in fences, not loose). I don't know if it works, but it's fun honking at them. I feel like Harpo Marx.
I'd like to rent that dog for the next CM.
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