Foo - Sheryl Crow

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daredevil
01-01-09, 02:00 PM
...the most talented female in America right now. Just sayin'....dang she's tasteful. Guess I should have put this in music but what the heck.
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 02:37 PM
I dont know about 'most talented' because I dont think you can
really have a 'most' or best' in creative stuff, but, she is definately
a great musician and songwriter. Her mid-late nineties stuff is
still my favorite period. she sooooo out-rocks the similar dooodage
of that era !!! :)
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 02:46 PM
I might have to argue with ya... I have been on a Cyndi Lauper kick of late and damn... that girl has some amazing pipes.
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 02:52 PM
I might have to argue with ya... I have been on a Cyndi Lauper kick of late and damn... that girl has some amazing pipes.
Ill take the argument for 250, Alex..........
Cyndi doesnt write a lot of her stuff or actually play, as in 'lots of knowledge' an instrument.
As entertainment, groovey, but not in the same league as Sheryl :)
:)
kd lang's pipes ftw. has she been doing anything lately?
old school all around talent? toss up betwixt Joni Mitchell and K8 Bush imho
by today's lackluster American Idol standards I guess Alicia Keys has a decent voice.
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 03:00 PM
Ill take the argument for 250, Alex..........
Cyndi doesnt write a lot of her stuff or actually play, as in 'lots of knowledge' an instrument.
As entertainment, groovey, but not in the same league as Sheryl :)
:)
You will have to check her writing credits, will discover she plays 6-7 instruments, can cross 4 octaves, and has perfect pitch.
But I do love Sheryl Crow.
And our KD Lang is a world apart for most performers.
And there really is no best.
patentcad
01-01-09, 03:04 PM
Sheryl's also a babe.
You people clearly have failed to factor Bonnie Raitt into your calculations.
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 03:07 PM
We're still doing the math here...
this is all too subjective.
best to do a search for the chanteuse thread from a few months back - includes all these wonderful ladies and many more besides
daredevil
01-01-09, 03:23 PM
I dont know about 'most talented'
Obvious exaggeration on my part mostly to show what I think is an incredibly talented, not to mention 'hip', lady.
daredevil
01-01-09, 03:24 PM
this is all too subjective.
You are correct sir!;)
Dannihilator
01-01-09, 03:26 PM
Sheryl Crow still has nothing on Janis Joplin.
daredevil
01-01-09, 03:27 PM
You people clearly have failed to factor Bonnie Raitt into your calculations.
Oh no, I cannot understate my love for that woman as well! Sheryl I believe writes more stuff and is a more talented instrumentalist IMO. Nothing can compare to Bonnie's voice though for sure.
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 03:29 PM
Sheryl Crow still has nothing on Janis Joplin.
Check this out...
YouTube - Dana Fuchs Band - I'd Rather Go Blind (Etta James Cover)
Sheryl Crow still has nothing on Janis Joplin.
incorrect
Dannihilator
01-01-09, 03:34 PM
incorrect
I never liked Sheryl Crow.
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 03:34 PM
Buckle up...
YouTube - Bonnie Raitt & Norah Jones~Tennessee Waltz
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 03:46 PM
Allison Krause... her talent has no limits.
YouTube - Alison Krauss + Yo Yo Ma Slumber my darling
Sheryl Crow is good, but there are many female singer/songwriters that are much better. Norah Jones is one of my favorites. Joan Baez singing Diamonds and Rust is incredible. Sarah McLachlins's version of Old 55 is breathtaking. Karla Bonoff singing The Water is Wide will make your hair stand on end. Shelby Lynn's new album, Just a Little Lovin, is unfreaking believably great.
Let's see then then there is:
Tori Amos
Patricia Barber
Diane Carroll
Dianna Krall
Eva Cassidy
Natalie Merchant
Allison Krauss..... and sooooooo many more , all better than Sheryl Crow
And they all sound much better on the vinyl format.
Susan Tedeschi ftw.
Janis meets Bonnie
YouTube - Susan Tedeschi~Hurt So Bad
shouldberiding
01-01-09, 04:05 PM
Sheryl Crow is resting on her laurels. She hasn't put out anything good since The Globe Sessions.
PhilThee
01-01-09, 04:13 PM
Sheryl Crow is resting on her laurels. She hasn't put out anything good since The Globe Sessions.
:lol: You guys like some tame stuff.
daredevil
01-01-09, 04:17 PM
Sheryl Crow is good, but there are many female singer/songwriters that are much better. Norah Jones is one of my favorites. Joan Baez singing Diamonds and Rust is incredible. Sarah McLachlins's version of Old 55 is breathtaking. Karla Bonoff singing The Water is Wide will make your hair stand on end. Shelby Lynn's new album, Just a Little Lovin, is unfreaking believably great.
Let's see then then there is:
Tori Amos
Patricia Barber
Diane Carroll
Dianna Krall
Eva Cassidy
Natalie Merchant
Allison Krauss..... and sooooooo many more , all better than Sheryl Crow
And they all sound much better on the vinyl format.
ALL better, seriously? Crow plays several instruments, writes and sings and is outstanding at all of them. She cannot be pigeonholed. Her styles are incredibly varied. Not to take anything away from the others understand. I like Norah Jones a lot but she can't play like Crow for sure and generally her stuff is pretty similar. Allison Krauss? She can sing. The guys can play like hell but Allison only sings and only in one style also, much like Jones. You ever seen Allison Travis pick a guitar? Maybe I've missed that. I'm not talking about singing alone, a real musician is a player too. Or I might say, more talented.
I'm not trying to be a smart ass if it comes off as that I apologize. ;)
I need to make sure I clear up the fact that I know Allison K plays the fiddle. Not sure what I was thinking. Union Stations vocals btw, are outstanding.
daredevil
01-01-09, 04:19 PM
Sheryl Crow is resting on her laurels. She hasn't put out anything good since The Globe Sessions.
She has an outstanding new Christmas CD out. Not original material but some awfully nice arrangements.
shouldberiding
01-01-09, 04:21 PM
:lol: You guys like some tame stuff.
Honestly, I don't even own any of her albums. Last time I heard something from Crow that I thought anything of was a decade ago.
Sarah McLachlan does (palatable) mainstream pop a lot better than Sheryl Crow.
Joni Mitchell makes them both look like talentless hacks.
daredevil
01-01-09, 04:24 PM
Honestly, I don't even own any of her albums. Last time I heard something from Crow that I thought anything of was a decade ago.
Sarah McLachlan does (palatable) mainstream pop a lot better than Sheryl Crow.
Joni Mitchell makes them both look like talentless hacks.
Let's try to leave the subjective part out of this for now. Musical tastes aside, how many instruments can Joni or Sarah play?
I am talking the complete package, singer, player, writer, arranger. If you got someone that can do that, put them in the discussion.
I need to add the variety of styles she can do with apparent ease.
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 04:31 PM
That groovy chick...
YouTube - Cyndi Lauper - At Last
I like Lady (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmJdSqXuu4U&feature=related) Bianca's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pls1hR7RFYs&feature=related) voice for blues
:lol: You guys like some tame stuff.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/jabarnhart/Random/goat-1.jpg
shouldberiding
01-01-09, 04:44 PM
Let's try to leave the subjective part out of this for now. Musical tastes aside, how many instruments can Joni or Sarah play?
I am talking the complete package, singer, player, writer, arranger. If you got someone that can do that, put them in the discussion.
I need to add the variety of styles she can do with apparent ease.
I think I just did.
Joni Mitchell plays at least guitar and piano. She's a wonderful guitarist. Most players are in awe of her alternate tunings and chords.
I don't know about Sarah McLachlan. She's plays piano well, and is known to strum a gitbox on occasion. She might play more instruments.
And Allison Krauss does more than just singing. She's also a hell of a fiddle player. The album she did with Robert Plant is great.
Sheryl Crow is an accomplished pop artist, but I don't think she'll have anywhere near the influence or relevence of somebody like Joni Mitchell. I'd take Feist and Nellie McKay over Sheryl Crow any day.
daredevil
01-01-09, 04:45 PM
Buckle up...
Thanks. I love them both. :D
Laura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmukuM7-X-I) Lee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RarqOK7Wh8) Perkins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOKFDCWSGw&feature=related)
Game Over:love: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_LPVXPdkH0&feature=related)
daredevil
01-01-09, 04:47 PM
I think I just did.
Joni Mitchell plays at least guitar and piano. She's a wonderful guitarist. Most players are in awe of her alternate tunings and chords.
I don't know about Sarah McLachlan. She's plays piano well, and is known to strum a gitbox on occasion. She might play more instruments.
And Allison Krauss does more than just singing. She's also a hell of a fiddle player. The album she did with Robert Plant is great.
Sheryl Crow is an accomplished pop artist, but I don't think she'll have anywhere near the influence or relevence of somebody like Joni Mitchell. I'd take Feist and Nellie McKay over Sheryl Crow any day.
First off, like a dope I forgot about Allison's fiddle playing. I love her too btw.
Sheryl can do so many different styles is part of her appeal to me. No matter what you do with Allison, it sounds like Allison. Same with Joni. Also, both of their voices get old after a while but that's just me.
SaiKaiTai
01-01-09, 04:47 PM
Sheryl's also a dog.
Fixed
Sixty Fiver
01-01-09, 04:52 PM
Let's try to leave the subjective part out of this for now. Musical tastes aside, how many instruments can Joni or Sarah play?
I am talking the complete package, singer, player, writer, arranger. If you got someone that can do that, put them in the discussion.
I need to add the variety of styles she can do with apparent ease.
YouTube - Fiona Apple - Parting Gift
shouldberiding
01-01-09, 04:52 PM
First off, like a dope I forgot about Allison's fiddle playing. I love her too btw.
Sheryl can do so many different styles is part of her appeal to me. No matter what you do with Allison, it sounds like Allison. Same with Joni. Also, both of their voices get old after a while but that's just me.
What makes her appealing to you is precisely what makes her unappealing to me. The emulation of various styles rather than creating her own sound. I don't hear much ingenuity in her material.
if you're gonna get into a quantitative talents contest remember Joni also has her songs covered by others, and paints her album covers.
But if yer gonna get into all that you'd do well to look at Kate Bush's work from 1977-80. Like or hate it she was an absolute genius. That she was barely out of her teens made it all the more stunning. Composing, lyrics, singing, playing, dancing, choreography, set and costume design....pioneered use of headset mics while dancing through numbers when Madonna was still in school.
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 04:56 PM
What makes her appealing to you is precisely what makes her unappealing to me. The emulation of various styles rather than creating her own sound. I don't hear much ingenuity in her material.
'Talentless Hack' is harsh.
You must not be a musician. Ive never heard one musician
criticize another especially to this degree.
Any music you hear today has already been done at some point in history.
Its the artists 'take' on those styles that makes stuff interesting :)
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 04:58 PM
if you're gonna get into a quantitative talents contest remember Joni also has her songs covered by others, and paints her album covers.
But if yer gonna get into all that you'd do well to look at Kate Bush's work from 1977-80. Like or hate it she was an absolute genius. That she was barely out of her teens made it all the more stunning. Composing, lyrics, singing, playing, dancing, choreography, set and costume design....pioneered use of headset mics while dancing through numbers when Madonna was still in school.
Kate Bush, Souixie Soiux, Nina Hagen(opera trained)...
For intense 60's stuff....look for a vid of Melanie live. Wow.
ITs all good !!!
:love:
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 04:59 PM
http://www.talwilkenfeld.com/Tal.html
^^^A true child prodOgy
PhilThee
01-01-09, 05:02 PM
This chick blows them all away with the power and complexity, and yet delicacy in her voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQS2R1otDbQ
shouldberiding
01-01-09, 05:03 PM
'Talentless Hack' is harsh.
You must not be a musician. Ive never heard one musician
criticize another especially to this degree.
Any music you hear today has already been done at some point in history.
Its the artists 'take' on those styles that makes stuff interesting :)
False.
People were saying rock is dead in the 60's and we're still doing new things with it. If you really believe that, then you're not really listening.
I am a musician, and the 'talentless hack' bit was hyperbole.
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 05:06 PM
This chick blows them all away with the power and complexity, and yet delicacy in her voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQS2R1otDbQ
Awesome !
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p102/Mishuaa/beavis_and_butthead.gif
-=(8)=-
01-01-09, 05:07 PM
False.
People were saying rock is dead in the 60's and we're still doing new things with it. If you really believe that, then you're not really listening.
I am a musician, and the 'talentless hack' bit was hyperbole.
Yep...thats me. Not listening :thumb:
patentcad
01-01-09, 05:21 PM
Fixed
There are classier ways to express your Gay Pride SaiKai.
thebarerider
01-01-09, 05:25 PM
Yeah. I know I use one piece of TP exclusively now.
PhilThee
01-01-09, 05:35 PM
How about a singer that sings from the heart with deep feeling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbr38RQSBuM&feature=related
Tom Stormcrowe
01-01-09, 05:53 PM
YouTube - Bessie Smith -A hot time in the Old Town Tonight
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