Mountain Biking - Upgrade to SLX groupset?
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01-06-09, 01:31 AM
Thinking of revamping my 1999 Gary Fisher Kaitai... it's got a great frame, with ok components for the time. Only thing changed is a better marchozzi fork and replaced the front deraileur to XTR as it was shifting sloppy.
But after 9 years of carrying my heavy 220lb ass up and down local trails... the drivetrain is in need of replacement.
I was thinking of changing everything over to the SLX groupset (minus the brakes) vs slowly upgrading things to XT beginning with the crankset, rear deraileur, and shifters.
You think the SLX would be a better deal, feel just as crisp and solid, and be more durable? or should I just start upgrading to XT?
btw I ride more for fitness and fun...
Coming from the guy that just upgraded his 2009 Kaitai, dunno what this is worth, but I just took mine to almost pure XT across the board and I don't have a single regret. I'd eliminate the middle step personally.
Dunno about "crisp and solid", the rear shifting is so freaking smooth you wonder if it indeed shifted! :P
I dont think i would spend the cash on it really i would replace worn/broken parts to get it running close to 100%,maybe think of selling it if you need the cash and upgrading thats just my $.02
If you're attached to the frame...then do an LX, XT, or X.9 setup. SLX replaced Hone which is a buffed out XC or panty-waist FR group set.
LX is fine, but XT will be lighter and more durable. If you prefer the SRAM feel, X.7 is decent (LX'ish) but X.9 is a good "blue-collar" setup.
SLX is slightly overkill for a basic XC/trail bike.
01-06-09, 06:46 PM
Stick with upgrading to XT.
01-08-09, 12:17 PM
Alot of the reviews I have read on SLX is that it is a tougher groupset than XT & XTR. With almost similar design to the XT with tougher more durable materials making it weigh a little more, more importantly it is much cheaper as well.
I wanted to see what peoples experiences are with SLX vs XT...
Just an FYI, you can get SLX cranksets from chainreaction for like 70 bucks right now.
^^ and then what? - - spend nearly that much having it shipped to the U.S.?
No, about 25 bucks. Still a better price than anywhere I could find in the US.
01-08-09, 11:23 PM
How much does your budget factor into your upgrade? My first thought is you don't have too much to gain from bucking up for XT parts. SLX and LX parts will serve you well. There is also SRAM...worth looking into. Contrary to a previous post, X-9 is NOT blue collar. X-4 or 3.0...yeah but if it's tuned properly will work just fine.
The cost is going to depend on what needs to be replaced/serviced. Expect to pay for:
2. brake and shifter cables
You probably don't need, but may want:
6. shifter pods
7. brake levers
8. brake calipers
9. crankset/bottom bracket
Personally, I wouldn't bother putting the latest XT parts on a bike that old. Price it out and think about what you have to gain. I sincerely doubt XT is necessary.
If your mechanic suggests:
1, 2 and 3: You're getting off easy. Ask when they'll be done working on your bike.
1,2,3 and 4 and/or 5: You're starting to spend some cash. You can still probably get away with this without spending too much. You'll likely be happy with the outcome.
1-9: think about how attached you are to the bike.
You don't want to hear: Your fork needs servicing or replacement combined with 1-5 or 1-9...let the bike go and get a new one.
happy new year.
I have LX on one of my rigs, and it works great, no problems at all. I am also a 250 lb guy, so trust me they take a ASS beating. Also the main Deore line works great also. I use that on my steel frame beater bikes. Unless you are planning on racing, or feel the need to keep up with the bling, save your cash and go with the LX or standard Deore. XT and XTR are just lighter not stronger.
PS look on the Jenson USA site, there are some great deals there. I just picked up 2 Deore rear deraileur's for 19 bucks apiece."that my friend is a good deal"
Chainreaction and Wiggle ship free once you hit the$150 mark. probikekit ships free to US all the time for any price. I use them all but Wiggle is the fastest shipper so if the prices are close I use them. I buy stuff from Wiggle on Monday and it's at my house on Thursday.(from the UK).
Back on topic.
I have two bikes with XT, XTR, and SLX stuff. The XT rear deraileur is lighter than the SLX(20grams) but they shift the same. The SLX cranks are better(stiffer, stronger, and just as light) than the XT cranks. Better color too.
I have SLX shifters and XTR they both shift the same but XTR are much lighter.
I have SLX brakes and XTR...... XTR brakes are better everywhere.(mainly callipers)
XTR front deraileurs are better everywhere I have XT on the other bike.
SLX shifters, brake levers, rear D(shadow style), and *cranks* are a great deals. It's not rebadged hone or LX they are completely redesigned and better. The SLX calipers and front D are rebadged Hone/LX.
01-10-09, 11:21 AM
Thanks for the replies...
How's this setup... I already have an XT front deraileur from a few years ago on the bike, I'll just replace with SLX cranks, SLX shifters, SLX rear cassette...
Just need to decide on XT or SLX rear D...
01-10-09, 11:27 AM
I'd get a new bike... but to get a bike with better components you have to pay an arm and a leg for it... The Genesis geometry of my Kaitai fits me like a glove... and I don't think much significant has changed in the way GF makes his hardtail frames... back in 1999 the Kaitai was Fisher's cheapest bike that shared the same frame as his more expensive competition/ cross country hardtails vs todays Kaitai which is more street oriented.
I figure new components on this will freshen it up like and be like a new bike...
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