Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - converting a bolt-on front wheel to quick release?

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nj0ywatch1np0rn
01-07-09, 11:58 AM
I purchased a wheelset off a langster that has a bolt-on front hub. Is there anyway I can convert it to a quick release?


sp00ki
01-07-09, 12:00 PM
i'm going to go ahead and assume this is a joke.

tFUnK
01-07-09, 12:00 PM
i had a QR rear mtb wheel that i converted to solid axle. i don't see why you can't convert the other way around. ask the shop how much they charge because it may or may not be worth it unless you've got a really nice front wheel.


nj0ywatch1np0rn
01-07-09, 12:19 PM
nope no joke. I just need a faster way of taking the from wheel off when I put it onto my roof rack. And I hate having to carry a wrench everywhere I go.

bw286
01-07-09, 12:35 PM
nope no joke. I just need a faster way of taking the from wheel off when I put it onto my roof rack. And I hate having to carry a wrench everywhere I go.

what if you get a flat on the rear?

nj0ywatch1np0rn
01-07-09, 01:13 PM
what if you get a flat on the rear?

hmmm... good point. Okay, if i can convert the front, I can convert the rear as well.

So the general consensus says stick with bolt-ons?

MIN
01-07-09, 01:22 PM
You can't use QR on a rear fixed gear hub.

iwegian
01-07-09, 01:25 PM
does the same go for mtb bikes with vertical drops and eccentric bb's? i know it doesn't relate to this thread, just curious.

MIN
01-07-09, 01:28 PM
You can't use QR if it has track ends, aka horizontal dropouts. EBB with vertical drops is fine with QR.

And to the OP - no, you need to get a new hub/wheel as you cannot convert a solid axle on a track hub into a hallow axle which is 1/2 as thin.

nj0ywatch1np0rn
01-07-09, 01:30 PM
coolio! Thanks MIN for clarifying that! Much thanks

dirtyphotons
01-07-09, 01:37 PM
you CAN use a quick release on the rear for a fixed gear (edit: with track ends), but you need to crank it down pretty tight. it's generally accepted to not be worth the risk (especially if you ride brakeless) but it can be made to work.

it's also likely that you can convert your axle to quick release, but it might not be worth the trouble. see this thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=228048) for more info on it. it's probably worth just finding a different front wheel, they can usually be had used for pretty cheap.

sp00ki, any word on using a nashbar/dimension axle?

MIN
01-07-09, 01:46 PM
you CAN use a quick release on the rear for a fixed gear (edit: with track ends), but you need to crank it down pretty tight. it's generally accepted to not be worth the risk (especially if you ride brakeless) but it can be made to work.

it's also likely that you can convert your axle to quick release, but it might not be worth the trouble. see this thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=228048) for more info on it. it's probably worth just finding a different front wheel, they can usually be had used for pretty cheap.

sp00ki, any word on using a nashbar/dimension axle?

Ok, but I would personally advise my friends not to. If one were insistent on using rear QR, then I would use the steel Shimano skewers since they clamp harder than most aftermarket external lever designs.

bw286
01-07-09, 01:47 PM
min you're wrong.

MIN
01-07-09, 01:48 PM
in what sense.

bw286
01-07-09, 01:48 PM
also, i imagine you COULD use a QR hub on the rear, but only if you use something like a surly tuggnut on both sides to keep it from slipping.

bw286
01-07-09, 01:49 PM
in what sense.

in the sense that what you said is wrong.
QR AXLE is same size and a bolt on. the QR itself is smaller, but it still goes through an AXLE the same size as a bolt on.
have you looked at a QR hub before? it's not just a skewer.

MIN
01-07-09, 01:53 PM
in the sense that what you said is wrong.
QR AXLE is same size and a bolt on. the QR itself is smaller, but it still goes through an AXLE the same size as a bolt on.
have you looked at a QR hub before? it's not just a skewer.

that's great and all but i'd like to see you convert a track axle into a quick release.

dirtyphotons
01-07-09, 01:54 PM
Ok, but I would personally advise my friends not to. If one were insistent on using rear QR, then I would use the steel Shimano skewers since they clamp harder than most aftermarket external lever designs.

good call. this is what i do on my polo bike (which is ss, not fixed) and it works great.

i would definitely NOT go with some lightweight road skewers.

dirtyphotons
01-07-09, 01:57 PM
that's great and all but i'd like to see you convert a track axle into a quick release.

this is quite easy to do with loose ball hubs. with sealed bearings you could get lucky and have your hub match up dimensions with a nasbhar hub's axle (which is hollow) or there are other less ideal kludges.

Cynikal
01-07-09, 01:59 PM
On some hubs it is very easy. You change axles. On some of the sealed hubs there is just not a QR axle available.

All that being said, a QR is plenty strong to hold a fixed/SS wheel. Just use a quality QR like the steel internal cam shimano ones. There is no need to build/have anything stronger for a fixed/ss setup. You will put far more force (torque) on onto a geared drivetrain than you can onto a fixed/ss.

Edit: I guess I type slow.

bw286
01-07-09, 02:04 PM
soo, you're still wrong, MIN

rduenas
01-07-09, 02:12 PM
Back in the day when I bought a Hed 3, it was quick release, with hollow axle.

I bought a whole new track axle from Hed and switched it out myself with no problem.

I think the vice versa would work. But, that's for a Hed 3, I don't know about other hubs.

peabodypride
01-07-09, 05:25 PM
soo, you're still wrong, MIN

hahahaha

BoozyMcliverRot
01-07-09, 05:37 PM
As long as its loose ball/cup n cone,it shouldnt be to big of a problem. I dont believe stock Langster wheels are sealed cartridge bearings anyway.

fuzz2050
01-07-09, 09:02 PM
+1 on MIN still being wrong. It's not a fun thing to do, but assuming you can find the parts, a hollow axle for a good internal cam quick release skewer is completely interchangeable with a solid axle.

jlin
01-08-09, 07:24 AM
You can't use QR if it has track ends, aka horizontal dropouts. EBB with vertical drops is fine with QR.

And to the OP - no, you need to get a new hub/wheel as you cannot convert a solid axle on a track hub into a hallow axle which is 1/2 as thin.

MIN is right about not using QRs on track ends because of axle slip; however, you can overcome this using tensioners.

MIN is wrong about needing a new hub/wheel. it's possible to convert bolt-on axle hubs to accept QR, though this takes a bit of work and parts. i'm in the process of doing this myself.

Axle Release
11-21-11, 09:43 AM
There's a simple solution to this problem. Simply replace the threaded nuts on each side of the hub with a threaded cam device. You can get them as internal cam or external cams. It takes just seconds to do and does require a hub alteration.

Axle Release
11-21-11, 09:43 AM
I meant to say it does not require a hub alteration procedure.

Cynikal
11-21-11, 11:22 AM
Yay, thread necrophilia for spam.

Siu Blue Wind
11-21-11, 12:48 PM
Sure is.