Foo - Is Walking the Bike included in Riding Miles?

I mean really....if I have to walk the bike due to one reason or another do I get to count them as outdoor miles. My thinking is so long as the bike is moving and you are the one moving it then the miles should count!

What do folks think?

I mean really....if I have to walk the bike due to one reason or another do I get to count them as outdoor miles. My thinking is so long as the bike is moving and you are the one moving it then the miles should count!

What do folks think?
yes, but your benefits will be less than if you were to ride that mileage, so be aware of that when adding things upl.

Yes, it counts.

I suppose it would count. I guess it depends on what you're counting the miles for. Are you going strictly on what you rode, or are you going by what is registered on your bike computer?

Yes but only if the bike is riding you.

Htfu

Yes but only if the bike is riding you.

Do you mean carrying the bike?

Htfu

HTFU? If the bike is unrideable or there is some other issue what does it have to do with HTFU!!! I am out there aren't I?:D

Do you mean carrying the bike?

In Soviet Russia, bike rides you!

Fortunately is no more Soviet Russia only land of Rootin Tootin Putin!!!!

If you're using a standard bike computer, the miles count so long as the sensored wheel is turning. With a GPS-based computer, the miles count no matter what. You can put the bike on your car and drive a century!

No computer. I am doing laps on a pre-measured course.

I would never cheat on my mileage and indoor miles don't count in my reckoning of miles.

yes, but your benefits will be less than if you were to ride that mileage, so be aware of that when adding things upl.

It takes more energy to walk a mile than it takes to ride a mile.

Well, if you go by an SPS (Solar Positioning System), I have ridden over 12 million miles this year then.

Walking the bike is also pretty awkward at times. Hmmm? I am leaning toward counting these walked miles if I am moving the bike. Hell it takes more energy than operating the cranks!

Well, if you go by an SPS (Solar Positioning System), I have ridden over 12 million miles this year then.

You also need to include galactic movement. There may be other variables but we have not discovered them. Actually you are present every in the universe at once so movement is just a human construct to make better sense of our present plane of existance.

You also need to include galactic movement. There may be other variables but we have not discovered them. Actually you are present every in the universe at once so movement is just a human construct to make better sense of our present plane of existance.

If you take some arbitrary point in the universe and keep it fixed, then with respect to that point, I have ridden approximately 880 trillion miles this year. And that is on a fixed gear bike, mind you.

If you take some arbitrary point in the universe and keep it fixed, then with respect to that point, I have ridden approximately 880 trillion miles this year. And that is on a fixed gear bike, mind you.

Actually, you have not gone anywhere it only appears so. You exist everywhere at the same time. Thus distance traveled is only an illusion predicated by our relating to this plane of existence and our relation to what "appears" in it.

It takes more energy to walk a mile than it takes to ride a mile.

Dangit, your logic is impeccable and I'm exhausted.

Actually, you have not gone anywhere it only appears so. You exist everywhere at the same time. Thus distance traveled is only an illusion predicated by our relating to this plane of existence and our relation to what "appears" in it.

I said nothing about whether or not the motion was actual. But with respect to that imaginary fixed point, you would greatly change position. By hundreds of trillions of miles.

Yes. I had a tire fail on me last year and had to walk 2 miles in look keo cleats to the light rail. Then another mile from the light rail to a lbs to pick up a tire. Once I was in a decent place I walked bare foot. Nothing is quite as painful as walking in road cleats.

Yes. I had a tire fail on me last year and had to walk 2 miles in look keo cleats to the light rail. Then another mile from the light rail to a lbs to pick up a tire. Once I was in a decent place I walked bare foot. Nothing is quite as painful as walking in road cleats.

It is that scenario that generally has me in a mind to wear MTB shoes instead of road shoes. Either way it is a bother to walk and it is never good for the cleats!

I trashed a set of cleats. If I had cleat covers it would have been fine.
No worries. It has happened once in 5 years on a commute that for some reason I took my tarmac.
My regular commuter has spds for walking in.
The stars aligned perfectly for me that day. I still finished my commute home. :p
Though it did cost me $60.

I said nothing about whether or not the motion was actual. But with respect to that imaginary fixed point, you would greatly change position. By hundreds of trillions of miles.

Yes that is quite so. Travel over distance will become more readily doable when we figure out how to harness the power of understanding the universe so as to instantaneously be anywhere in it. Appearance though as we are already there and everywhere as well as where we appear to be. Mind boggling ain't it.

I trashed a set of cleats. If I had cleat covers it would have been fine.
No worries. It has happened once in 5 years on a commute that for some reason I took my tarmac.
My regular commuter has spds for walking in.
The stars aligned perfectly for me that day. I still finished my commute home. :p

Though it did cost me $60.

SPDs are the way to go. I have road shoes but rarely use them. My Cross Concept is my road bile and I have 105s on them. (I am hoping to do better).

Yes that is quite so. Travel over distance will become more readily doable when we figure out how to harness the power of understanding the universe so as to instantaneously be anywhere in it. Appearance though as we are already there and everywhere as well as where we appear to be. Mind boggling ain't it.

Already have that power. Watch: just now I shifted 3 miles to the left. Perhaps you did not notice, however, since the entire universe also shifted 3 miles to the left at the same time.

I can also change size. But that also is difficult to detect for the same reasons.

jim

I can also change size. But that also is difficult to detect for the same reasons.


If this post had been in the Road forum it would have gone straight into the gutter. :p

Already have that power. Watch: just now I shifted 3 miles to the left. Perhaps you did not notice, however, since the entire universe also shifted 3 miles to the left at the same time.

I can also change size. But that also is difficult to detect for the same reasons.

jim


Shifting is impossible as well as you are already there. As for size....well.....I am not sure you want to hear what the ladies say......:innocent::D

This thread has gone seriously astray! Sigh!!! Well, walking with the bike counts as far as I am concerned!

It counts as a walk, just like in baseball...as opposed to a hit. ;)

Yes. I had a tire fail on me last year and had to walk 2 miles in look keo cleats to the light rail. Then another mile from the light rail to a lbs to pick up a tire. Once I was in a decent place I walked bare foot. Nothing is quite as painful as walking in road cleats.

:lol: My first time finishing riding a monster hill around here was also my first ride with Look Keos... I knew I couldn't walk up the hill in those shoes as it's really steep with no shoulder so I had to keep riding to stay with my group. It was painful, think I averaged ~5km/h for the last half of the climb.

Sure it counts. Back in 1984 or so I saw Hal Schatz, a contestant in the second RAAM, too sick to ride, walking his bike half a mile up to the top of Loveland Pass. That was the first place his RV could park that was level. A race official assured me that any time you are walking your bike counts. "It is harder to walk the bike then ride it anyway." At nearly 12,000 feet I'd guess so. As an aside, if he had not walked his bike, after recovering, he would have had to go back down the Pass and ride the distance back up anyway.

Ken's answer puts it in perspective... my question would have been what sanctioning body's rules are you following?

In almost any cycling event I believe that as long as the cyclist and bicycle move under the cyclists power it counts... no need to hold yourself to stricter guidelines.

Plus, as mentioned, walking is harder than riding... walking pushing a bike is harder than walking without a bike (unless you're injured and using it as a walker)... so unless you are keeping track of each category, then you are fine in adding it to cycling mileage in my opinion.

:lol: My first time finishing riding a monster hill around here was also my first ride with Look Keos... I knew I couldn't walk up the hill in those shoes as it's really steep with no shoulder so I had to keep riding to stay with my group. It was painful, think I averaged ~5km/h for the last half of the climb.

lol

I have had the exact same thing happen to me on a few climbs at a 20% + grade. No way in hell was I going to try to walk or clip back in.

Plus, as mentioned, walking is harder than riding... walking pushing a bike is harder than walking without a bike (unless you're injured and using it as a walker)... so unless you are keeping track of each category, then you are fine in adding it to cycling mileage in my opinion.
Hopefully, there's not enough mileage in this category to count. Most people won't walk bikes unless they're in really bad shape or have a serious mechanical problem.

But you do get credit for the distance.

Miles count but it kills your average speed. Of course if your like me it's not that hot to begin with.

If you take some arbitrary point in the universe and keep it fixed, then with respect to that point, I have ridden approximately 880 trillion miles this year. And that is on a fixed gear bike, mind you.

Everybody sing along!

The Galaxy Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk)

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

Most people won't walk bikes unless they're in really bad shape or have a serious mechanical problem.

Mountain bike much? ;)

There's a popular bumper sticker around here that says, "Singlespeeders Get Off More".

My first ever century the rear derailleur snapped in half about a mile and a half from the 100 mile point (And home!)... I walked it and you better believe I counted that mile and a half!

If you take some arbitrary point in the universe and keep it fixed, then with respect to that point, I have ridden approximately 880 trillion miles this year. And that is on a fixed gear bike, mind you.

That's nothing!

Oh, wait. Never mind, you said on a fixie...

No.

No

Shifting is impossible as well as you are already there. As for size....well.....I am not sure you want to hear what the ladies say......:innocent::D

Hmm. I would guess that however you define "shifting" then what I am describing means you are always shifting to every location at every time. So, I choose to pick out the "3 feet to the left" shift as one of those shifts.

Interesting take on it. However you are already there before the shift!

No. The walk of shame doesn't count towards ride miles. It takes more energy, yeah, but different muscles are being used. Log it as walked miles.

PS: did the cleats survived? I had to change mine after a similar walk.

No. The walk of shame doesn't count towards ride miles. It takes more energy, yeah, but different muscles are being used. Log it as walked miles.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Wordbiker/LanceWalkingMedium.jpg

Of course, that is the Powerline section of the Leadville 100 that even Weins usually walks. I'm pretty sure it counted towards the 100.

If you are in full kit and walking a road bike in cleats, yes it counts. Do the miles I walk around the neightborhood, which is hilly, pushing my 4 year old up hills when he grinds to a stop count?

Do the miles I walk around the neightborhood, which is hilly, pushing my 4 year old up hills when he grinds to a stop count?Only if you snidely push him off the bike, get on yourself, and ride up to show him how easy it is, and then taunt him as he walks up the hill alone in shame.

Then it counts.

good. BTW, what do I tell him when he asks me, on a daily basis, what HTFU means?

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