Touring - Homemade touring recipes

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recklesscogniti
01-12-09, 08:21 AM
I'm preparing some research for cycling nutrition for my touring blog and wanted to include a homemade recipe section. I don't want to go around stealing peoples' ideas so I wanted to start a new post. If you guys have an secret weapons for touring that boost energy, increase recovery times, or raise morale, I'd love to hear about them. Recipes, tips, and tricks are welcome. Anything that can be pre-made at home before a trip or easily made at camp and packaged for later in the ride would be perfect. Please include your name and website if you'd like to be mentioned on the blog. I appreciate all your help.
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Bourbon/Rum. It raises morale after a long day and has a wonderful relaxing effect. Save weight by putting it in a plastic flask. No mixing necessary, but ya could if ya wanted to.
reiffert
01-12-09, 09:49 AM
Fanny Farmer Baking Book has a Raisin Bar recipe that stores well, esp if you cut them to fit a refrigerator storage box. Ditto, the Lebkuchen (German Honey Cakes), and the Welsh cakes.
Any of those work well for breakfast or for dessert.
Lunchtime sandwich recipe:
Bun
Cold meat
Cheese
Tomato
Margarine
Salt
Acquire above ingredients from local grocery store. Carry outside. Find nice place to sit. Make sandwich. Eat.
See my website in my signature line. :D
paxtonm
01-12-09, 11:35 AM
For breakfast, mix water and steel-cut oats 2 to one, add a few chopped dates, some chopped walnuts, a dollop of peanut butter. Bring to a boil until the whole thing thickens. Serve with yogurt or milk. This stuff powers me along for a loong time.
4000Miles
01-12-09, 01:21 PM
There's a great article on CGOAB on food for tours, but the one section I liked most was to a site that has very nearly a zillion different trail mix recipes. Click here (http://www.cooks.com/rec/search?q=trail+mix) for that site and here (http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=3Tzut&doc_id=1492&v=B9&term=bread%20alone&context=all) for the CGOAB article (which has many many more delicious recipes for hungry bikers).
I don't presume to take credit for these, I only found them.
aenlaasu
01-12-09, 01:34 PM
I think I've come to the conclusion that when I'm cycling, one thing I will cook for myself is my mom's version of dirty rice. It can be made in a single pot and if I've got the dog along, I'm sure he'd appreciate something more than his boring food as he'd get the 'extra' cooked meat I wouldn't be able to keep without a cooler.
Going to try it with:
2 dl of dry rice (I use brown or wild rice)
4 dl of water
200 grams of lean ground meat (5%)
half a small onion
2 table spoons of soy sauce
oregano (and what-ever other seasonings I pack with me)
Cook meat in the pot. Dump in rice, water, onion, soy and seasonings and let it cook for 15 to 20 min. I haven't tried it over a camp stove yet, but I have hopes. Pass through one of the many tiny villages in Sweden, grab fixings in the grocery and cook while at camp an hour or so outside the town. Decently high in protien and quite high in carbs and tasty.
For breakfast, mix water and steel-cut oats 2 to one, add a few chopped dates, some chopped walnuts, a dollop of peanut butter. Bring to a boil until the whole thing thickens. Serve with yogurt or milk. This stuff powers me along for a loong time.
Yeah, this stuff is bomb. I toss some flax seeds in there as well (after cooking)
recklesscogniti
01-12-09, 11:27 PM
Thanks for the recipes, I hope some more keep rolling in
TheBrick
01-13-09, 03:41 AM
A nice simple warming desert help make you feel better.
I love stewed apple for this. Easy, one pot no long list of ingredients.
If I have to write down a recipe for this you need more help than I can give you.
balto charlie
01-13-09, 06:53 AM
For breakfast, mix water and steel-cut oats 2 to one, add a few chopped dates, some chopped walnuts, a dollop of peanut butter. Bring to a boil until the whole thing thickens. Serve with yogurt or milk. This stuff powers me along for a loong time.
While this is a great breakfast don't you think it takes too long to cook. I usually bring mine to a boil(at home) and leave it sit overnight to absorb the water. How long do you cook this? Lots of fuel use..... I'm thinking. Still the best breakfast for a loooong ride.
Roughstuff
01-13-09, 09:13 AM
Thanks for the recipes, I hope some more keep rolling in
The only meal i cook, in the 'recipe' sense, is dinner. My most common thing is a sausage stir fry/stew...kind of a middle of the two.
I take 2 sweet or hot suasage links (buy them separately in the deli section) and cook them up on moderate heat, then throw in sliced onion, potato, carrot, celery, and tomato (or some subset of these but at least 3). Cover it with a bit of water to steam the veggies and help the sausage juices, then let it dry enough that it caramels the vegetables a bit.
Yummy, and i write in my journal while its cookin. A nice alternative to the 'boil water and add whatever' school of cycling cuisine.
Breakfast and lunch aren't really recipes; yogurts, rolls, peanut butter, bananas, etc.
roughstuff
Gordo Grande
01-13-09, 10:04 AM
Bourbon/Rum. It raises morale after a long day and has a wonderful relaxing effect. Save weight by putting it in a plastic flask. No mixing necessary, but ya could if ya wanted to.
LOL! I agree! I always carried a small flask of whiskey. It helped to ease a few muscle pains and get a good nights sleep, and it was a lot easier to carry around then a six pack of beer! :)
Here's a breakfast tip: Put some cereal in a small zip-loc baggie, along with some powdered milk. Just throw in some cold water when you wake up, and shake it up. Not the best, but good ijn a pinch when you can't find anything else for breakfast.
While this is a great breakfast don't you think it takes too long to cook. I usually bring mine to a boil(at home) and leave it sit overnight to absorb the water. How long do you cook this? Lots of fuel use..... I'm thinking. Still the best breakfast for a loooong ride.
Let it sit over night in a sealed container sans cooking. It'll be soft enough in the morning to need minimal cooking time.
SweetLou
01-13-09, 12:27 PM
Has anyone tried using a thermos to cook their food? I found an article (http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=3Tzut&page_id=49077&v=1a) on crazyguyonabike.com about using a food jar or a thermos to cook their food.
I think this would be great if it worked. I could soak dry beans over night, then in the morning throuw the beans, seasonings and hot water into the thermos then later in the day have fully cooked beans.
I also like his idea of preparing the meal while on a break during the day, then have a hot meal ready to eat when you get to camp.
paxtonm
01-13-09, 12:42 PM
Jaypee is right. I'd overlooked that step. The next morning, it just needs a few minutes to get hot and thicken.
bikebuddha
01-13-09, 01:21 PM
Camp risotto
Aborio rice
1 tsp of olive oil
3 bullion cubes
some parmesan cheese that doesn't need refrigeration
garlic and onion to taste
Dissolve bullion into water to make a broth bring to simmer
in another pan throw in the olive oil and rice (and garlic and onions if wanted).
slowly broth add about 1/2 a cup at a time while stirring rice. once broth is absorbed add another 1/2 cup
when all the broth is absorbed add cheese to taste.
Sit back and enjoy.
BigBlueToe
01-13-09, 08:07 PM
I try to always have at least one package of Top Ramen in my panniers. Ramen always hits the spot. I also carry a loaf of bread, some jam, and some peanut butter. It gives me more options. I don't have to tailor my route to food opportunities if I don't want to. It's possible to eat p.b.&j. sandwiches for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I've done it. I'm diabetic and eating proper food at the right time is important. P.b.&j. (with sugar free jam) sandwiches on wheat bread fit my diet.
cyccommute
01-13-09, 09:24 PM
While this is a great breakfast don't you think it takes too long to cook. I usually bring mine to a boil(at home) and leave it sit overnight to absorb the water. How long do you cook this? Lots of fuel use..... I'm thinking. Still the best breakfast for a loooong ride.
And clean up. Mornings are for cold breakfast (oatmeal squares, breakfast bars, etc), a cup of coffee, breaking camp and getting down the road. The last thing I want to do in the morning is wash dishes:rolleyes:
And the peanut butter? It'd be like a brick in my stomach for the rest of the day. Ick!
cyccommute
01-13-09, 09:45 PM
While on tour, I only eat one meal per day. I've found...the hard way:o... that I can't process really heavy food while riding. I live on granola bars, fruit bars, etc. for the rest of the day. Depending on how close I am to a grocery store, I have a couple of recipes that work very well.
Chicken Ramen
Boneless chicken
carrots
zucchini
1 or 2 packs of chicken flavored ramen
Italian seasonings
1 or 2 cups of water
For one person use 1 pack of ramen and 1 cup of water. 2 of each for two people
Cut chicken into chunks and brown in pan. Add water, seasoning packs from the ramen and Italian seasonings bring to boil. Add carrots (you can use sliced carrots or baby carrots) and simmer until carrots are slightly tender. Add zucchini and allow to cook as long as you wish...depending on how you feel about zucchini :rolleyes: Break ramen into 4 pieces or so and add to water. Simmer until noodles are soft. Eat.
So Good Skillet
This one requires some canned goods so it's best near civilization.
Hamburger
carrots, sliced
onion, sliced
celery, sliced
1 can of beef broth or consume'
1 can of beef barley or beefy vegetable soup
1 can of water
4 to 6 oz of pasta. Elbow macaroni or penne work best.
soy sauce
hot sauce or salsa or both
Brown the hamburger and drain if necessary. Add onions and soften them a bit. Add carrots and celery. Allow them to soften a little. Add the soup, water and the broth (consume' makes it a little thicker). Add about a table spoon of soy sauce and some hot sauce (Louisiana Hot sauce works best). Add pasta and allow to simmer until the pasta is done. Serve with more hot sauce for individual taste.
Both of these are good and filling. Prep is minimal and the clean up is pretty easy since it's all one pot. A bit elaborate but after a long day of eating granola bars, I'm ready for something with more taste.
T-Hussy
01-13-09, 09:57 PM
And clean up. Mornings are for cold breakfast (oatmeal squares, breakfast bars, etc), a cup of coffee, breaking camp and getting down the road. The last thing I want to do in the morning is wash dishes:rolleyes:
And the peanut butter? It'd be like a brick in my stomach for the rest of the day. Ick!
Agreed, no dishes in the morning! A great trick is to buy single serving oatmeal packets (the organic or natural type have the least amount of sugar, look at healthfood stores) and add boiling water directly to the packets. Every brand that I have ever tried is either wax lined or foil lined and holds water with no problem. You need a good serving spoon (like the folding spoon made by MSR) to get the water in the packet without burning yourself. Let the oatmeal set up and cool down for a few minutes, then enjoy. When finished just throw the empty packet away and lick your spoon clean. The warm oatmeal feels good on cold hands too.
Wash-up? That's what paper towels or tissues are for -- to wipe out the pot and dishes. If you cook so the food cakes on to the pot, then you're not doing so well. I've spent days bush camping by bike and used minimal water for wash-up.
Frying? If you reconstitute jerky, or use other packaged/tinned meat products, they generally have already been cooked. It's not impossible to keep fresh meat fresh, largely by freezing it and wrapping it in clothing and stuff, but generally it's got to be used by the second day, so preserved or dehydrated meats are a better choice.
I like TVP (textured vegetable protein) in granular form as a non-meat protein. It is light-as to carry, reconstitutes quickly with water, can be flavoured with just about anything, and has the final texture of minced meat. And because it is dehydrated soya bean, it won't go off in the heat, and can be served up to a vegetarian if s/he runs short of food.
The Thermos idea is a good one and is not new, but you have to be prepared to carry around an extra kitchen item -- the flask -- as well as something to heat water. Is it an efficient means of cooking, or not? In terms of fuel usage, maybe; in terms of extra bulk on the bike, maybe not.
I'd much rather carry a can of aerosol cream instead, and make up several batches of pancakes to spray the contents over... I cook the pancakes on the Trangia frying pan, and they can be either for savoury mains with something like an instant pasta inside, or dessert spread with jam, honey or maple syrup. The pre-mixed commercial pancake packs are pretty good, although it's best to pay a little more for the better quality.
I can't go touring for long without fresh vegetables in a typical stew format. I like to have a thickened stew, so taking along a small amount of cornflour is a good idea. The rice idea also is a good one, although I prefer to prepare mine separately. I usually do take two Trangia pots with me, and use the absorption method to cook rice -- bring water and rice to boil with lid on, when boiling, take off heat with lid on, and leave for 15 minutes or so.
And as Machka said, it is entirely possible to tour without the need to cook. But beware canned foods -- you are likely carrying water for no real purpose other than to throw it away.
This page has 18 links to information about food while bike touring (http://www.biketouringtips.com/searchTips.html?country=&state=&place=&id=Food&subtopic=). Most of them are food preparation links.
This earlier thread at bikeforums.net (contained above) has several good suggestions: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=103396
Ray
cyccommute
01-14-09, 08:59 AM
Wash-up? That's what paper towels or tissues are for -- to wipe out the pot and dishes. If you cook so the food cakes on to the pot, then you're not doing so well. I've spent days bush camping by bike and used minimal water for wash-up.
Frying? If you reconstitute jerky, or use other packaged/tinned meat products, they generally have already been cooked. It's not impossible to keep fresh meat fresh, largely by freezing it and wrapping it in clothing and stuff, but generally it's got to be used by the second day, so preserved or dehydrated meats are a better choice.
I like TVP (textured vegetable protein) in granular form as a non-meat protein. It is light-as to carry, reconstitutes quickly with water, can be flavoured with just about anything, and has the final texture of minced meat. And because it is dehydrated soya bean, it won't go off in the heat, and can be served up to a vegetarian if s/he runs short of food.
The Thermos idea is a good one and is not new, but you have to be prepared to carry around an extra kitchen item -- the flask -- as well as something to heat water. Is it an efficient means of cooking, or not? In terms of fuel usage, maybe; in terms of extra bulk on the bike, maybe not.
I'd much rather carry a can of aerosol cream instead, and make up several batches of pancakes to spray the contents over... I cook the pancakes on the Trangia frying pan, and they can be either for savoury mains with something like an instant pasta inside, or dessert spread with jam, honey or maple syrup. The pre-mixed commercial pancake packs are pretty good, although it's best to pay a little more for the better quality.
I can't go touring for long without fresh vegetables in a typical stew format. I like to have a thickened stew, so taking along a small amount of cornflour is a good idea. The rice idea also is a good one, although I prefer to prepare mine separately. I usually do take two Trangia pots with me, and use the absorption method to cook rice -- bring water and rice to boil with lid on, when boiling, take off heat with lid on, and leave for 15 minutes or so.
And as Machka said, it is entirely possible to tour without the need to cook. But beware canned foods -- you are likely carrying water for no real purpose other than to throw it away.
If I were mountain bike touring, I might worry about water and clean up but even then I carry a water filter or usually have access to water so washing up stuff after eating isn't that hard to do. Paper towels,however, are bulky and rather heavy so I'd rather carry something for washing anyway.
I also use teflon coated cookware but anyone who has cooked can tell you that even then food sticks to the pan and/or the utensils. Food bits decompose better and faster than paper towels do.
I've used prepackaged meats and will continue to do so. Chicken, ham and fish are readily available at grocery stores and HellMart. They work well but are pretty flavorless and have a weird consistency. If I'm going to a grocery store, I will also pick up some fresh vegetables but I don't like carrying them too far (grocery store to campsite is about as far as I carry them.)
If you are going to complain about frying, then why do you fry pancakes? Frying or browning meat is just normal operating procedure for most cooking. I even try to brown the foil packaged meats to try and improve the flavor of the stuff (it's a little nasty just out of the package)
Losligato
01-14-09, 09:18 AM
To pedal a bike all day the body requires a steady supply of slow-burning energy. The ideal food is easily digestible, simple to make, can be carried on a bike and can be made hours before.
Whole grains are best.
Whole Wheat Couscous (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineMalaysianCouscous.html): High carbs with a relatively low glycemic index. Cooks fast, keeps well and is great when mixed in with a salad.
http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/sitebuilder/images/Couscous9-250x187.jpg (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineMalaysianCouscous.html)
Quinoa (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisine02.html): Easy to make, very easy to digest, great energy source with a bit of protein and plenty of iron. Great hot or cold
Brown Rice: Takes a long time to cook but is easily digested. Great energy source.
Whole Wheat Pasta (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisine01.html): Is very satisfying after a long ride but does not keep well. Spirals can be mixed in with a salad but is not tasty when luke-warm. Hot or cold is best.
Sushi (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineSushi.html) (without the fish): Often if we had a hotel room with a minibar refrigerator I would make a double pot of brown rice for dinner and make sushi rolls in the evening. I would wrap them up in preparation for the long ride the next day. Uncut, they remain intact and can be eaten like a banana.
http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/sitebuilder/images/Sushi11-250x187.jpg (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineSushi.html) http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/sitebuilder/images/Sushi15-250x187.jpg (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineSushi.html) http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/sitebuilder/images/Sushi3-250x187.jpg (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineSushi.html)
Early in our tour we began looking at food as a simple fuel. If we ate something sweet we might bonk a few miles down the road. Slow burning carbs would make us feel twice as strong as a sandwich made on white bread.
I enjoy cooking. We have a pot with a sealable lid (http://www.vwvagabonds.com/Bike/CycleCuisineCookingEquipment.html) with allows us to make food in the morning and have it ready when the ravenous hunger is setting in about noon.
http://www.vwvagabonds.com/images/CycleCuisine01.jpg
Oh, snap! Maki rolls on tour? Now that's awesome. I'll have to try that this summer.
avatarworf
01-14-09, 01:30 PM
A nice simple warming desert help make you feel better.
I love stewed apple for this. Easy, one pot no long list of ingredients.
If I have to write down a recipe for this you need more help than I can give you.
Stewed apples... we make it too! I will give the recipe because what's obvious to one person, the other has never heard of...
3-4 apples, sliced and peeled
1 cup water
1/4-1/3 cup sugar or a bit of honey
cinnamon
Boil the water, throw in the apples and sugar and cinnamon and let it cook away for a few minutes (not more than 3-4 minutes is necessary). We serve ours over crumbled shortbread cookies, which makes it a bit like a no-bake apple pie :)
recklesscogniti
01-14-09, 06:07 PM
Losligato, nice pictures, all that stuff looks delicious. In Korea they make stuff called kimbop, it's similar to sushi but doesn't have any fish or raw stuff in it. There are a ton of different varieties, but they usually use seaweed, canned tuna, scrambled eggs, carrots, cheese, and greens. There are some other things in there, but they are hard to come by on a tour, so i didnt list them.
They swap out the tuna for spam, ground beef, or kimchi. Just roll it up and wrap it in foil. It will stay put for a couple of hours.
balto charlie
01-18-09, 08:51 PM
Let it sit over night in a sealed container sans cooking. It'll be soft enough in the morning to need minimal cooking time.
No cooking...sounds good. thanks
toolboy
01-19-09, 12:00 PM
Here's a club favourite: one small can of salmon - juice and all, one medium onion - chopped, two beaten eggs, salt and pepper, 2 or 3 slices of any kind of bread - broken into smallish pieces. Mix all thoroughly together inside a large Ziplock bag, cut a corner off the bag and squeeze into an oiled frying pan. Brown and serve - feeds 4 regular folk (or 2 cyclists) :love:
TheBrick
01-19-09, 02:05 PM
I tried Bannock last night. Pretty good camp food, easy and quick to cook filling.
Various recipes. (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/index.php/Food-Cooking/Bannock.html)
mrhedges
01-19-09, 02:59 PM
have you guys ever done the dirt trick to clean out pots? after your done eating put a good amount into the pot and push it around. it is a natural abrasive and will soak up all the food then dump out the contents and wash out the dirt with alittle soap. Paper towels = wasteful, why do you need to cut a tree down just to was out a pot?
cool recipe ideals, don't have much to add, haven't really cooked on tour. But for short trips off all sorts I make tofu jerky. I take tofu, marinate it in a sauce overnight. usually a homemade bbq sauce (good sauce making is the essence of being a good cook) then bake in oven for several hours at a low heat turning frequently. I usually bake it until it is dry. Hardboiled eggs are also a good quick snack. I read about that in an old bike book my mom gave me. I was also obsessed with summer sausage for a while.
spike57
01-19-09, 05:00 PM
Click on the link below for an extensive forum on camp recipes, ingredients, and cooking techniques used by backpackers.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32
The star of the forum is without doubt Sarbar, whose website (below) is worth a visit if for no other reason than to see pictures of some of the food ideas. Lots of other good stuff there.
http://blog.trailcooking.com/
I also use teflon coated cookware but anyone who has cooked can tell you that even then food sticks to the pan and/or the utensils. Food bits decompose better and faster than paper towels do.
Speaking as the one who does a lot of the washing up after Rowan cooks (and cooks excellent meals, BTW!!) ... he does very well for not letting food stick. A lot of times food sticks because of the inattentiveness of the cook. I'm not much of a cook, but even I can keep stuff from sticking ... you've got to hover over it and keep stirring it while it is cooking. If you walk away from whatever it is for a few moments to do something else, your food will likely stick. And the moment you're done, you've got to pour water (and not necessarily hot water, it depends what the food is) into the pot so that the remaining particles don't have a chance to stick and harden to the side.
Some warm-hot water, a tiny bit of soap, a quick wipe with some sort of cloth ... and the dishes are done.
have you guys ever done the dirt trick to clean out pots? after your done eating put a good amount into the pot and push it around. it is a natural abrasive and will soak up all the food then dump out the contents and wash out the dirt with alittle soap. Paper towels = wasteful, why do you need to cut a tree down just to was out a pot?
cool recipe ideals, don't have much to add, haven't really cooked on tour. But for short trips off all sorts I make tofu jerky. I take tofu, marinate it in a sauce overnight. usually a homemade bbq sauce (good sauce making is the essence of being a good cook) then bake in oven for several hours at a low heat turning frequently. I usually bake it until it is dry. Hardboiled eggs are also a good quick snack. I read about that in an old bike book my mom gave me. I was also obsessed with summer sausage for a while.
I was going to leave this alone, but, seeing you want to make this an issue because of trees and your emotive desire to attach yourself to environmental responsibility...
I use recycled tissues. Light-as to carry, very effective in cleaning, and no trees were cut down specifically to make it.
Unlike cyccommute, who professes to be a keen angler and is very protective of his waterways, and you who just dumps your waste on to the ground, I try to avoid leaving food waste in rivers and lakes/rservoirs or on the ground because they are foreign to those environments, and in highly occupied campground, offensive. A significant amount of fat is deposited in one form or another in the "simple wash-up in the stream", and that is not good in any shape or form. Detergent... nah... more problems, even for those trees that you consider so sacrosanct.
I'll go futher. The beauty of using recycled paper in the form of towels or tissues is that it can be bundled up into a bag (plastic or otherwise) and taken out with you to a proper disposal bin. You know, the sort that park or municipal staff empty regularly and take to managed waste disposal sites.
I come from a part of the world that has strict rules on waste management in the not-insignificant areas of World Heritage rain forests. People who raft down the Franklin River, for instance, have to remove all their waste, including their own crap and urine... that is, it is a legal requirement that what they carry in, they must carry out.
I think the carry-in/carry-out policy is a good one to adopt even in the most basic forms.
I figure that rather than lambast my suggestions for using paper towels for your other favoured watery techniques, you think your environmental responsibilities through a little more thoroughly.
Next you'll be telling me that you toss banana skins at will "because they'll decomponse" when patently they don't very well; and that you can't camp without having a campfire to create "atmosphere and comfort and to cook". For what it's worth, again, if you light fires here right now, on total fire ban days, you might just spend time in jail. Fires have become passe in my camping experience.
And yes, Machka does do washing up -- generally when we are in structured camping areas, such as state parks where facilities such as camp kitchen are provided for such purposes. I know camp kitchens are a rare commodity in North America, but they are very common in Australian commercial campgrounds and again add that element of environmental responsiblity. And if push come to shove, I will use the campground toilet as the place to dump wsh-up material, not the ground.
Plus I, too, have used the sand/dirt technique, but less so these days because I used alcohol as my heating fuel, and its far more controlled heat means I haven't caught the bottom of a pot in a long long time. These days I don't bother washing the outside of my pots, either, but give them a quick wipe-over to remove the soot. The remaining ingrained black (my Trangia pots are mostly black on the outside) is an aid in reducing my alcohol usage marginally.
Carbon Ken
01-20-09, 04:17 PM
Ramen is my food of choice but here's a tip.
When choosing ramen, go for the Korean ramen which comes in the foil packages as opposed to the others like Sapporo Ichiban which come in thin plastic packaging.
Then follow these steps :
- Carefully open the packaging
- Remove sauce packet and empty into the package
- Snap the noodles into quarters from outside of the package
- Pour boiling water directly into the package
- Roll the top down and hold upright for 3 minutes
- Eat your ramen
- Throw away packaging.
Ramen is my food of choice but here's a tip.
When choosing ramen, go for the Korean ramen which comes in the foil packages as opposed to the others like Sapporo Ichiban which come in thin plastic packaging.
Then follow these steps :
- Carefully open the packaging
- Remove sauce packet and empty into the package
- Snap the noodles into quarters from outside of the package
- Pour boiling water directly into the package
- Roll the top down and hold upright for 3 minutes
- Eat your ramen
- Throw away packaging.
Rowan introduced me to a nice variation on that. Get a packet of the ramen noodles and a can of cream soup. Pour the cream soup into a bowl, break up the noodles into the soup in the bowl, add water (I go with just a bit less water than what the can recommends to put in), add a bit of the packet of salt and flavoring that comes with the noodles (you probably don't want to add all of it or the soup will be very salty), and microwave.
This, of course, assumes you're at a hostel with a microwave. But you could cook it in a pot on a stove if you were so inclined.
I've done a good bit of ultralight backpackings and have learned some hard lessons. I want tasty meals that aren't very heavy. Here's a few suggestions:
Food ingredients
- Freeze dried veggies. Either dry your own with a dehydrator or find them in grocery stores. These add a LOT of flavor to dishes. Get 'natural' ones... no extra salt or flavor additives needed.
- Freeze dried beans (typically black beans). These are very lightweight and contain a lot of carbs and protein.
- Meat in a pouch. You can buy chicken, beef, and turkey (cooked but unseasoned) in foil pouches. These weigh a bit but will serve multiple people. They are still lighter than meat in a can. Refrigeration is not required.
- 'Real' flour for making flat breads. For longer trips, you can bring along a dry mix for making flatbread. For shorter trips, just get some soft taco or burrito shells (they are durable and easy to pack).
- Seasoning. Salt, pepper, chilli powder, dried onion, & garlic powder can add a lot of flavor to dishes.
- Rice. I like the 'rice in a bag' that you just boil for a few minutes. No need to simmer the rice, etc.
Cook Methods and gear
- Check out http://www.antigravitygear.com and their cookgear. My dad just finished through-hiking the Appalachian Trail and was a huge fan of the Pepsi can stove and the pot cozy. For most meals you just boil water, add the ingredients, and zip up the pot in the insulated container. The food will continue cooking for a long time. This saves a LOT of weight on fuel! The Pepsi can stove weighs virtually nothing and is very durable. However, it is not fast and you must burn all the fuel in it during each use (i.e. some practice is required). Ethanol doesn't require a pressure vessel (like white gas or butane)... you can carry it in a simple canteen (clearly labeled!).
- Prep everything ahead of time and stick the items in ziploc bags. You should not need measuring devices on the trip. Vacuum sealers and food dehydrators can help expand your food options.
Recipes
- Moose turds: Mix up peanut butter, milk powder, cocoa, and honey into a paste (roughly 25% for each ingredient but adjust to taste). Stick it all in a tube (can get these at outfitting stores). This makes a good portable energy treat.
- Burrito: Cook the rice and hydrate the freeze dried veggies and beans. Add a pouch of meat & season to taste. Heat everything up and serve in a burrito shell. This will serve 2 hungry people.
I tend to like the raw food diet. Much easier and less weight.
I would take my half gallon empty milk jugs cut open and pour in water and ramon noodles and wait for it to soften.
Then throw the whole mess away.
Or I would add instant carnation breakfast to the milk.
I use tortillas and peanut butter and I never had smashed bread.
I would use the smaller cans of veggies,
cyccommute
01-21-09, 07:54 AM
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Unlike cyccommute, who professes to be a keen angler and is very protective of his waterways, and you who just dumps your waste on to the ground, I try to avoid leaving food waste in rivers and lakes/rservoirs or on the ground because they are foreign to those environments, and in highly occupied campground, offensive. A significant amount of fat is deposited in one form or another in the "simple wash-up in the stream", and that is not good in any shape or form. Detergent... nah... more problems, even for those trees that you consider so sacrosanct.
Excuse me but I do not wash my dishes in or near streams! Any washing of dishes (after removal and proper disposal of left over food) is done in either a sink or far from any water source...or camping site.
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