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US Air plane in the Hudson.
ModoVincere
01-15-09, 01:57 PM
:( especially since my wife is flying to NY this weekend.
StupidlyBrave
01-15-09, 01:57 PM
Ugh :(
substructure
01-15-09, 02:01 PM
Yikes!!! On it's way here - Charlotte.
HardyWeinberg
01-15-09, 02:03 PM
Cold
Appears to be in one piece, still afloat, rescues underway. Bird strike is being reported at the cause of the crash landing in the Hudson. Airbus A320 enroute from La Guardia to Charlotte.
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:05 PM
Yup, very cold water, but it seems as if everyone survived? Just a guess, but it does seem that way.
Yup, very cold water, but it seems as if everyone survived? Just a guess, but it does seem that way.
that's the current report.
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:09 PM
Cool, Im happy for that as mine was just a guess from what Ive seen :thumb:
Wife called. Said they're dropping life jackets into the water. Bird strike? Man...
looks like it's intact with the inflatable rafts working and with emergency crews already there
DallasSoxFan
01-15-09, 02:14 PM
we can sequence the human genome, but can't render bird attacks ineffective against airplanes? I don't buy it.
KyleOndy
01-15-09, 02:15 PM
They had a super fast response. The rescuers are really doing a good job.
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:15 PM
Well the passengers and crew had things going pretty well as one can see that they used the emegency slides as floatation devices and they do have (some of them) large rafts located on the middle ceiling area of the plane. Just hope they remembered to cut the slide away from the plane with the knife provided by the airlines, its located just in the bottom of the doorway next to the emegency beacon. (after the slide is activated) The first to respond was FDNY Rescue One, but I think that commercial ships reached them first.
props to the pilot who managed to land it in water intact. now that is hard to do with a commercial aircraft.
KyleOndy
01-15-09, 02:18 PM
props to the pilot who managed to land it in water intact. now that is hard to do with a commercial aircraft.
Agreed about the pilot. I'd assume its pretty hard with any plane. At high speed water is pretty much a solid surface.
Doohickie
01-15-09, 02:22 PM
They had a super fast response. The rescuers are really doing a good job.
It landed in the middle of several ferry docks (both sides of the river). They were probably to the plane within seconds. The aircraft was held afloat by tugs while the evacuation was completed. No reports of casualties, at least not yet.
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:22 PM
Seems like the ships are moving away from the scene so maybe they got everyone. Double bird strike by the way.
127.0.0.1
01-15-09, 02:23 PM
birds suck
ModoVincere
01-15-09, 02:24 PM
birds suck
no. Jet engines suck.....birds right into them.
Lithuania
01-15-09, 02:30 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3199284739_f3238bdd3c_o.jpg
Agreed about the pilot. I'd assume its pretty hard with any plane. At high speed water is pretty much a solid surface.
it's hard because the underwing engines act like a boat anchor when it hits the water, sending the airplane into a spin that just rips it apart.
T-tail configurations like boeing 727 or bombardier crj200, keep the engine above the fuselage and don't have this problem. there are trade-offs however, and ease of maintenance is one of them, which is why most large commercial airliners have underwing designs.
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:30 PM
Ever see a miracle?
Lithuania
01-15-09, 02:31 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3200101048_3915a3640f.jpg
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:35 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3200101048_3915a3640f.jpg
Wow!
old scratch
01-15-09, 02:39 PM
i used to live on the waterfront near there in jersey city. i wish i still did i would go outside and check out the scene. pretty cool story, looks like no real casualties. i bet those folks were cold though, brrrr, it is frigid here in NY today.
wow those images are unreal
Treefox
01-15-09, 02:46 PM
NBC just used the term 'balls to the wall' to describe the pilot's situation...
ilikebikes
01-15-09, 02:55 PM
nbc just used the term 'balls to the wall' to describe the pilot's situation...
sweet!
i used to live on the waterfront near there in jersey city. i wish i still did i would go outside and check out the scene. pretty cool story, looks like no real casualties. i bet those folks were cold though, brrrr, it is frigid here in NY today.
indeed:eek: That water must be unbearable....still, beats crash & burn landing
timmhaan
01-15-09, 03:01 PM
i really can't believe what just happened!
major props to the pilot! this could have been so much worse.
indeed:eek: That water must be unbearable....still, beats crash & burn landing
it just took off too, so there's plenty of fuel for a major fire
everybody seems ok. Except for the bird....
US Air plane in the Hudson.
Old news, even at 3:55 PM...
Though, the recording of the ATC communication is pretty interesting. If anyone wants to hear it, PM me and I'll tell you how to get to it.
everybody seems ok. Except for the bird....
apparently 5 pets in the cargo drowned.
Here is the radar data from the short flight:
03:26PM 40.80 -73.87 151 1800 http://flightaware.com/live/images/tracon.gif New York TRACON
03:27PM 40.83 -73.87 174 2800 http://flightaware.com/live/images/tracon.gif New York TRACON
03:27PM 40.86 -73.88 194 3200 http://flightaware.com/live/images/center.gif New York Center
03:28PM 40.88 -73.90 202 2000 http://flightaware.com/live/images/tracon.gif New York TRACON
03:28PM 40.86 -73.93 215 1600 http://flightaware.com/live/images/center.gif New York Center
03:29PM 40.83 -73.95 194 1200 http://flightaware.com/live/images/tracon.gif New York TRACON
03:29PM 40.82 -73.97 191 1300 http://flightaware.com/live/images/center.gif New York Center
03:30PM 40.78 -74.00 189 400 http://flightaware.com/live/images/tracon.gif New York TRACON
03:31PM 40.75 -74.02 153 300 http://flightaware.com/live/images/tracon.gif New York TRACON
As you can see, the flight was in the air for about 5 minutes and climbed to just over 3000 feet before beginning its descent.
That was heroic work on the part of the pilots.
Here is the flight path of the aircraft as seen by NY Radar...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1549
crash66
01-15-09, 05:52 PM
Good thing I escaped from there.
Seriously, though.....ummm, why don't airline engines have heavy-duty screens in front of them to prevent birds or other objects from getting sucked in?
efficiency, ice build up, stuff like that.
the engines can "spit" through bleed valves, except they can get clogged if the chunks are too big or too numerous.
patentcad
01-15-09, 06:04 PM
The Miracle on the Hudson today. In 50 years living near NY City, I remember a few plane crashes, but none that had this happy of an ending. That was amazing. Absolutely friggin amazing.
bigbenaugust
01-15-09, 06:15 PM
It's funny, though. US Airways charges the passengers for water. Do you suppose they collected $2 from everyone before they jumped, and then an extra lifejacket fee?
Old news, even at 3:55 PM...
Though, the recording of the ATC communication is pretty interesting. If anyone wants to hear it, PM me and I'll tell you how to get to it.
i'll be sure to pass that along to CNN international. :rolleyes:
The Miracle on the Hudson today. In 50 years living near NY City, I remember a few plane crashes, but none that had this happy of an ending. That was amazing. Absolutely friggin amazing.
BBC World Service had a former 747 pilot on to talk about it. The guy was effusive in his praise for the pilot.
wahoonc
01-16-09, 02:56 AM
I know that flight crew. The pilot is former military and 30+ years in the commercial jets, he is also a first rate human being. Lead FA is one of my wife's good friends and we know the other two. Awesome job on everybody's part to get out in one piece.
Aaron:)
I know that flight crew. The pilot is former military and 30+ years in the commercial jets, he is also a first rate human being. Lead FA is one of my wife's good friends and we know the other two. Awesome job on everybody's part to get out in one piece.
Aaron:)
:thumb:
cyclezealot
01-16-09, 04:00 AM
Anyone ever experienced a medical emergency on board. I was just on a flight where some obese guy fell in the aisle .. Airline staff does more than just serve meals.. Someone caught the guy as he was falling to the floor.. The whole steward staff was on this guys side in seconds with medical kits, oxygen tanks, etc.. They acted more like medics than stewards... The guy was taken to the rear and he was revived in no time..
wahoonc
01-16-09, 04:27 AM
Anyone ever experienced a medical emergency on board. I was just on a flight where some obese guy fell in the aisle .. Airline staff does more than just serve meals.. Someone caught the guy as he was falling to the floor.. The whole steward staff was on this guys side in seconds with medical kits, oxygen tanks, etc.. They acted more like medics than stewards... The guy was taken to the rear and he was revived in no time..
Flight Attendants (that is the PC term by the way...I am married to one;)) are trained for emergencies first, then handling irate passengers, with serving coming in a distant third. My wife is required to do recurrent training every 12 months, plus when something changes they will have a refresher/update training as needed. If they fail the recurrent training they are not allowed to fly. In a way they are like firemen, they train in the hopes they never need to use that training, but if they do need it, they can react.
In the very early days of Stewardesses they had to have a college degree usually they wanted nurses for their medical training. Now that is no longer required, but all FA's have substantial training in Advanced first aid, CPR, AED's and other necessary things.
Aaron:)
keithm0
01-16-09, 04:40 AM
Here's an article from AvWeb about the incident, with a few details about the pilot, Capt. Chelsey Burnett Sullenberger III:
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Flight1549Pilot_GliderInstructor_199588-1.html
Amazing. :thumb:
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