Living Car Free - Does anyone know what this thing is?

I know this is the wrong forum for it but I already asked the classic/vintage guys to no avail. My Dad has had this in his garage for the last x years, unknown to me, until today. What the hell is this thing? I can not find any info on it. It is the CRAZIEST thing I have ever seen. You push and pull forward and backwards on the handlbars to make it go. The motion is like a rowing machine. I literally pulled it out and put air in the tires. Everything works perfect. He wants me to sell it but I dont know what IT is. The badge says Windsor which I know has been sold recently and now make touring bikes. The badge also says made in mexico and "patent pending." Do I have so kind of prototype that was never mass produced? Any help would be amazing! Thanks guys. I will take some video of me riding it and upload it later, its really weird.... I am tempted to keep it though it has no practical value, but I really dont have the room!

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It looks interesting. It is a hand powered scooter.

I would love to have a Kickbike or a Sidewinder push scooter but their prices are so outrageous that I can't make myself spend the money for one. They want the price of a moderate mountain bike for a frame, two wheels, and a handle bar. No way.

I did spend a lot to buy a Xootr but that was portable and I used it often when going to the local store. In my new city it gets used to take me to the post office in the summer. It can be taken inside or folded and strapped across my back. It's a super useful tool. A push scooter would just be good as a change of pace from using a bicycle.

That's a curious kluge. It looks like it's an "exercise cycle" made by ROCK N'ROLL, INC. 3405 - 69th Drive, Lubbock, TX 79413-6123 and invented by Ben Lindsey.

I'm guessing that they buy a scooter from Windsor, import it and modify it in Texas. All the information I can find is some patent info at http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1991007308. It's certainly rare.

As a side note, Lubbock is also the home of Buddy Holly (http://www.buddyhollycenter.org)who did a bit of rockin' and rollin' in his day.

All I can say is that would be one hellova fixed gear!!!! :)

That's a curious kluge. It looks like it's an "exercise cycle" made by ROCK N'ROLL, INC. 3405 - 69th Drive, Lubbock, TX 79413-6123 and invented by Ben Lindsey.

I'm guessing that they buy a scooter from Windsor, import it and modify it in Texas. All the information I can find is some patent info at http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1991007308. It's certainly rare.

As a side note, Lubbock is also the home of Buddy Holly (http://www.buddyhollycenter.org)who did a bit of rockin' and rollin' in his day.

wow. All I can say is BRAVO! You are a god of research and a master of arcane information.

Using Artkansas' inspired research as a springboard I found this link:

http://oasisllc.com/spanish/fun_machines.htm

By the way, Lubbock is also the home of Platy.

Using Artkansas' inspired research as a springboard I found this link:

http://oasisllc.com/spanish/fun_machines.htm

By the way, Lubbock is also the home of Platy.

That's great. Leave it to a local. Now the trikes make sense, I'm still puzzled by the scooter.

OK. Here's a related and probably easier question. I've seen people on MUPs with a devise that looks like a 3 wheel scooter, that's propelled by hip movements. They look like good exercise, if not much fun compared to a bike. They're annoying because they go back and forth as they go forward, taking up the whole path. It can be very difficult to overtake them if the user has headphones and doesn't hear you shouting Excuse me.

What are these 3 wheeled scooters called, and what's their basic concept?

I'm not sure what the "intended purpose" of the 3-wheeled scooter is, but tricycle handbikes are used by people with physical limitations that cause them to have difficulties with balance or who are unable to use their legs to propel the machine.

I know this is the wrong forum for it but I already asked the classic/vintage guys to no avail. My Dad has had this in his garage for the last x years, unknown to me, until today.


Have you asked your Dad where and when and why he got it? Does he know anything more about it?

OK. Here's a related and probably easier question. I've seen people on MUPs with a devise that looks like a 3 wheel scooter, that's propelled by hip movements. They look like good exercise, if not much fun compared to a bike. They're annoying because they go back and forth as they go forward, taking up the whole path. It can be very difficult to overtake them if the user has headphones and doesn't hear you shouting Excuse me.

What are these 3 wheeled scooters called, and what's their basic concept?

I have seen the infomercials for those things...but cannot remember what they are called. real PITA when they come shooting out of driveway in front of you.

Aaron:)

Have you asked your Dad where and when and why he got it? Does he know anything more about it?

Thats all the info I have on it is. Apparently it is his wife's (not my mother) deceased husbands bike. She has no idea where or when he bought it....

I have tried to contact windsor to ask them when the bike was made, from what materials, and how many were built, but they never got back to me.

I tried to e-mail Rock-n-Roll in Texas (thanks for the link and the research by the way!) but their email link seems to be broken. If it is working for anyone else can you post the e-mail address or phone number?

Thank you all for the research you have done so far! Over in the classic/vintage forum NO ONE had any ideas, that means the car free people win!

I do not see how a disabled person could ride this bike, I understand the trikes but this one is a REAL beast to get going. I am still working on getting some video of me on it!

Thats all the info I have on it is. Apparently it is his wife's (not my mother) deceased husbands bike. She has no idea where or when he bought it....

I have tried to contact windsor to ask them when the bike was made, from what materials, and how many were built, but they never got back to me.

I tried to e-mail Rock-n-Roll in Texas (thanks for the link and the research by the way!) but their email link seems to be broken. If it is working for anyone else can you post the e-mail address or phone number?

Thank you all for the research you have done so far! Over in the classic/vintage forum NO ONE had any ideas, that means the car free people win!

I do not see how a disabled person could ride this bike, I understand the trikes but this one is a REAL beast to get going. I am still working on getting some video of me on it!

I think there are quite a few very athletic people who just can't use their legs. There's probably someone out there who is a perfect match for the bike or scooter or whatever it is. If you might consider donating it to such a person, you could possibly post to a handcycling forum and ask if it would be of great use to someone.

if someone couldn't use their legs how could they stand on that platform to operate it? I don't think it was made for a handicapped person, my guess is more of a novelty toy.

if someone couldn't use their legs how could they stand on that platform to operate it? I don't think it was made for a handicapped person, my guess is more of a novelty toy.
You're probably right. That Oasis place seems to specialize in all kinds of unusual bicycle like things, like bikes to push wheel chairs and floating beach chairs with wheels. Here's another link with more information.

http://oasisllc.com/

OK. Here's a related and probably easier question. I've seen people on MUPs with a devise that looks like a 3 wheel scooter, that's propelled by hip movements.

What are these 3 wheeled scooters called, and what's their basic concept?

Is this what you saw?

http://www.trikke.com/

The big one costs $599. NO WAY!

I've never seen one in person. I would like to try one. The problem with them is that they take up way too much room on trails and sidewalks because they carve their way forward the way skaters use their blades or wheels. They wouldn't work at all on icy winter roads.

Is this what you saw?

http://www.trikke.com/

The big one costs $599. NO WAY!

I've never seen one in person. I would like to try one. The problem with them is that they take up way too much room on trails and sidewalks because they carve their way forward the way skaters use their blades or wheels. They wouldn't work at all on icy winter roads.

Eureka, thanks. :)

I wonder how you pronounce Trikke--trick or tricky? On the website they make it look like those things fly, but when I've seen them they were going no more than 5 or 6 mph. And sideways more than forward.

Yeah i stayed up really late one night and watched an infomercial on one of them. Anything that requires an infomercial has to be bull****. I just can not see how they would be efficient. Maybe they are fun to ride?

Yeah i stayed up really late one night and watched an infomercial on one of them. Anything that requires an infomercial has to be bull****. I just can not see how they would be efficient. Maybe they are fun to ride?

Thanks for the pictures. Yes, I have seen one being used on the RiverTrail.

Having lived in the Coachella Valley, home of Guthy-Renker and Thane International, I have to say that some of my friends make informercials. They are no better or worse than other forms of advertisement. It really says nothing about the quality of the product.

Thanks for the pictures. Yes, I have seen one being used on the RiverTrail.

Having lived in the Coachella Valley, home of Guthy-Renker and Thane International, I have to say that some of my friends make informercials. They are no better or worse than other forms of advertisement. It really says nothing about the quality of the product.

Count the number of times the product breaks, fails, or hurts someone while using it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwAV5bsXrQw

Enjoy

Classics from the past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0dRcdyizU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMYxPqCfA0E&feature=related

And of course the grand daddy of them all!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlgYQwf1Pug&feature=related

Count the number of times the product breaks, fails, or hurts someone while using it.

Enjoy

Your examples are amusing. :roflmao2: But they prove nothing.

The point is that there is no necessary relationship between the advertising medium and the products that use it. Comics for example. In those pages you could find ads for X-Ray glasses and Schwinn Bicycles(back when they were good).

We both find infomercials tedious, but I don't make the assumption that all products advertised on them are bad. NuWave Infrared cookers use them. My father, a retired engineer, bought one and he loves it. It works great.

While I agree with you to the extent that I do not like to make broad assumptions about products based solely on their advertisements.... Any product that requires a 30 minute tv slot to convince me that I can not live without it, and have actually been living an inferior live because I have not had it, is probably bull crap. When was the last time you saw an infomercial about investing your money in a saving account or college fund? Then again, now that I think about it, and to come full circle and stick my foot in my mouth, I have seen infomercials to get you to sign up for 15$ a month to feed african children... Maybe the ones who spend big bucks on commercials are the ones that do the least good though, I digress...:)

While I agree with you to the extent that I do not like to make broad assumptions about products based solely on their advertisements.... Any product that requires a 30 minute tv slot to convince me that I can not live without it, and have actually been living an inferior live because I have not had it, is probably bull crap. When was the last time you saw an infomercial about investing your money in a saving account or college fund? Then again, now that I think about it, and to come full circle and stick my foot in my mouth, I have seen infomercials to get you to sign up for 15$ a month to feed african children... Maybe the ones who spend big bucks on commercials are the ones that do the least good though, I digress...:)

As I understand it, infomercials are the cheapest way to advertise on TV. They send in the DVD, and it gets aired at the mercy of the local station. I imagine Ron Popiel would rather have 30 seconds on the Super Bowl than 30 minutes in Peoria at 4:00 AM. But the infomercial is all he can afford for his type of products.