Cyclocross - Why so hard to find a low-price shorter TT steel CX frame?

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B17
01-17-09, 09:32 PM
Seems like that Bikes Direct guy was talking last year about a steel frame, but the only one I've seen with the Motobecane label was a SS. The Double Cross and the Pake C'mute are a bit long in the top tube for me, and the Cross-Check's chainstays are a bit long to look good to me. When I go to eBay, I can find a dozen AL frames under $250, but few steel ones.

Why can't someone offer a cheap frame with enough clearance for CX (but not so much that it looks like a touring bike) in a size where the top tube and seat tube are the same (virtual) length?


flargle
01-18-09, 07:19 AM
Beggars can't be choosers.

dirtyphotons
01-18-09, 07:34 AM
because people with short torsoes can ride long frames by getting a smaller size, jacking up the seatpost and using a riser stem.

people with short legs can't or won't ride a square frame because they can't stand over the bike.


B17
01-18-09, 12:53 PM
because people with short torsoes can ride long frames by getting a smaller size, jacking up the seatpost and using a riser stem.

people with short legs can't or won't ride a square frame because they can't stand over the bike.

I understand the issue of fit, but when you have tons of seatpost and quill (or tube spacers) showing, it's ugly. Besides, I'm not talking for a frame for someone with "a short torso"- I'm looking for a frame that doesn't have an abnormally long top tube. Virtual 55x55, whether sloping or not.

Mike552
01-18-09, 08:37 PM
I understand what you're saying and can certainly relate.
What I ended up doing was picking up a Jamis Aurora frame. It's made of TIG welded Reynolds 520 (typical 4130). The geometry is what you are looking for. I ended up replacing the front fork with a straight blade fork to make the handling a little more snappier, although the standard geometry of the Aurora is already considered to be pretty aggressive for a touring bike. My only qualm with Jamis is that I found them to have the crappiest customer service. It took weeks for them to get back to me with the simplest of inquiries, and the emails were not helpful whatsoever, and at times, unnecessarily vulgar. As far as the bike itself, it looks to serve its purpose pretty well, however, I wish there was a tad more tire clearance. The maximum tire size I can squeze in is 700x38 with no fenders. I wish I could mount 700x45's. I understand the Surly Crosschecks are capable of this. Also, there are only cable stops (for STI shifters) on the down tube. I wish I had the option of mounting DT shifters as an option. Again, something that is possible on the Surlys.