Mountain Biking - What are these screws under this frame for ?

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zeo_max
01-18-09, 11:55 PM
I've seen some hardtails have screws under the frame to carry a second water bottle. But these screws on this full suspension frame are different. What are they for ?

Also, how are you supposed to carry a second water bottle on this full suspension frame ? Is it impossible to carry a second water bottle on a full suspension ?

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5733/epicpx7.jpg


free_pizza
01-18-09, 11:58 PM
Cable Guides?

PlatyPius
01-19-09, 12:01 AM
Cable guides for full-length housing.


zeo_max
01-19-09, 12:12 AM
Ok. So then, is there any way to put a second water cage/bottle in this full suspension frame, or any full suspension frame, as most are very similar to this ?

PlatyPius
01-19-09, 12:20 AM
Ok. So then, is there any way to put a second water cage/bottle in this full suspension frame, or any full suspension frame, as most are very similar to this ?

Not really, no. Choices are: Use a camelback or put a bottle cage on the back of your seatpost.

jjbod1
01-19-09, 12:20 AM
Real Mtn bikers use Camel backs. Water cages are for battery packs for night riding.

bikinfool
01-19-09, 01:48 AM
Even if you could put a bottle cage on the lower part of that down tube, just think of all the crap that it would get covered with from your front wheel. Get a hydration pack, best bet.

C Law
01-19-09, 03:15 AM
Real Mtn bikers use Camel backs. Water cages are for battery packs for night riding.
:roflmao2:

delay
01-19-09, 11:31 AM
I typically ride with one bottle on the frame and one bottle in a Jersey pocket. Don't listen to them, your specialized epic would laugh at you if you tried to ride it with a hydration pack on...

zeo_max
01-19-09, 12:17 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm used to riding hardtails which allow a second cage on the seat tube. I don't know about the "real mountain bikers use camelbaks" thingy, I like the freedom of not carrying a backpack.

zeo_max
01-19-09, 12:19 PM
I typically ride with one bottle on the frame and one bottle in a Jersey pocket. Don't listen to them, your specialized epic would laugh at you if you tried to ride it with a hydration pack on...

Doesn't it feel a little bulky on the jersey pocket ?

born2bahick
01-19-09, 12:51 PM
I've seen some hardtails have screws under the frame to carry a second water bottle. But these screws on this full suspension frame are different. What are they for ?

Also, how are you supposed to carry a second water bottle on this full suspension frame ? Is it impossible to carry a second water bottle on a full suspension ?

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5733/epicpx7.jpg
THIS FS Frame is a race frame, In races that require more than a bottle's worth of hydration, you get a family member to hand you a fresh bottle on the second/third/fourth lap, whatever.
Now If you ride this frame for long training rides for your race, you use a camelback. At least..... That's the way I always looked at it.

ProFail
01-19-09, 02:42 PM
Real Mtn bikers use Camel backs.

Oh, you lummox. :rolleyes:

Lebowski
01-19-09, 04:45 PM
hey i ride my epic with a camelbak and i have no cages

delay
01-19-09, 05:01 PM
Doesn't it feel a little bulky on the jersey pocket ?


not nearly as much as a hydration pack does. Really it hits on the small of the back and is quite refreshing when its hot out to have a cold bottle there.

bikinfool
01-19-09, 05:07 PM
I typically ride with one bottle on the frame and one bottle in a Jersey pocket. Don't listen to them, your specialized epic would laugh at you if you tried to ride it with a hydration pack on...

Can't even imagine carrying a water bottle in a jersey pocket, but then I don't like stuff in jersey pockets, don't even wear jerseys with pockets.

BTW, does the link in your signature have a missing letter or something?

ca7erham
01-19-09, 07:43 PM
I only carry water bottles if I dont want to be able to drink and I want my bike to be heavier.

PlatyPius
01-19-09, 07:53 PM
hey i ride my epic with a camelbak and i have no cages

-[09] Origin8 Scout 29er -- [08] Specialized Epic Comp -- [08] Specialized Allez -- [06] Specialized Hardrock Sport--


How do you like the Origin8? We can get them through our supplier (J&B Imports), and I've been looking seriously at it lately.

AaronAnderson
01-19-09, 07:54 PM
I prefer the camelback. That way I can carry my custom first aid kit, small camera, some tools, tube. c02, yadda yadda

rankinesoccer
01-19-09, 07:57 PM
ive got one right under the bottom bracket on my full suspension. next to the cranks. Sort wierd bu tIt works. In AZ it gets battered alot.

PlatyPius
01-19-09, 07:59 PM
I prefer the camelback. That way I can carry my custom first aid kit, small camera, some tools, tube. c02, yadda yadda

Ditto.

When I lived in Wyoming, it was also useful if I decided to get off of the bike and hike somewhere to see something that wasn't accessible by bike.

Handy place for my 9mm, too.

zeo_max
01-19-09, 08:48 PM
Handy place for my 9mm, too.

LOL ! :lol:

Serious ?

PlatyPius
01-19-09, 08:50 PM
LOL ! :lol:

Serious ?

When I lived in Wyoming and Colorado, yes. Not so much here in Indiana. lol.

OnTheRivet
01-19-09, 09:17 PM
Camelbaks are stupid for any ride under 2 hours.

mcoine
01-19-09, 09:33 PM
Camelbaks are stupid for any ride under 2 hours.

Incorrect.

Dannihilator
01-19-09, 09:42 PM
Camelbaks are stupid for any ride under 2 hours.

Let us know how great it works out for you when you don't pack a chain tool because your saddle bag doesn't have enough room and don't have a spare quick link and when you break a chain you are forced to walk back to the car/home and your little 2 hour ride becomes a 4 hour excursion. Or when you have more than 1 flat on a ride, forcing you to walk yet again. ;)

They're cable guides.

Yotsko
01-19-09, 09:44 PM
Camelbaks are stupid for any ride under 2 hours.

YOU'RE stupid for any ride under 2 hours!

PlatyPius
01-19-09, 10:10 PM
What's stupid is caring what someone else does or doesn't do - on the bike or off.

jjbod1
01-19-09, 10:17 PM
Real Mtn bikers use Camel backs. Water cages are for battery packs for night riding.

LMAO, Ah come on guys and dolls, was just trying to have some fun with that comment. Honestly,when I first started to wear one I hated it, the thought of that thing on my back drove me nuts. Now I don't ride with out it. I do use my cage for glucose drinks when its hot.:D

urodacus
01-19-09, 11:23 PM
real MTBers carry their extra water in a little pink shopping basket attached to the bars. and it's usually Midori and Lemonade premix, last time i looked.

what fool carries a loose water bottle on the underneath of the downtube on a MTB? covered in crud or fallen out after the first mile.

G-Monkey
01-20-09, 10:56 AM
Camelbacks are a safe alternative and are designed for people who get thirsty...lol

7daysaweek
01-24-09, 09:14 PM
Camelbaks are stupid for any ride under 2 hours.

Agreed.

Lebowski
01-25-09, 09:34 PM
i've emptied two waterbottles and a 3 liter camelbak in about 5 hours in 80 degree weather last summer.

i bring my camelbak on every ride, i dont care if im planning a short outing, i like the security of being able to turn a quick ride into a lengthy excursion on the fly.

and even if i do ride for less than 2 hours i have to ride 12-14 miles (one way) on my bike to get from the state trails to my house,

i needs my water, i want plenty, and i likes it alot.

maddmaxx
01-26-09, 04:37 AM
hydraulic hose guides for rear brake.