Training & Nutrition - is jogging bad?

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mindaugas
01-21-09, 09:36 AM
will jogging do anything bad to cycling? I'm not racing but I'm training for the Colorado MS150 this summer. doing some weights in the gym, strengthening my, core, that kind of stuff. I also hit the treadmill for about 30-45 minutes. I figured it will at least help my lungs. Or is it really bad I should just use one of the cycling machines instead? I ride 6 miles a day to work and back, and at least one 40 mile+ ride on the weekend. I also have a trainer that I try to avoid but will incorporate into the routine.
I'm not planning on a tri but I want to run some short 5k races this summer as well, just for fun with friends.
StanSeven
01-21-09, 09:42 AM
Running is a good exercise and you get a good workout in much less time, especially when you factor in getting ready for a winter ride with all the needed clothes.
If I put too much time of stationary bikes in gyms, I start to get knee pain and problems in other areas. That's because they aren't set up like my road bikes.
It's also a good alternative to cycling and adds variety to training.
michaeldmanthey
01-21-09, 10:19 AM
Most cyclist coaches recommend running up hill. Jogging on the flats has no impact on your cycling. Up hill jogging works some simliar muscles and can be helpful to cycling.
Any aerobic exercise should help your cycling. However, it will only help a certain amount.
I once suggested to a friend that we ride together sometime. When I did, I could tell that he thought that I was big and fat and out of shape. I was a bit over weight but not much. He had just done the Boston Marathon. Well, I had just done about 6000 miles in 3 months. So I had absolutely no problem out climbing him on hills or just motoring away. Any exercise is amazingly specific.
But any exercise beats no exercise by a very wide margin.
Any aerobic exercise should help your cycling. However, it will only help a certain amount.
I once suggested to a friend that we ride together sometime. When I did, I could tell that he thought that I was big and fat and out of shape. I was a bit over weight but not much. He had just done the Boston Marathon. Well, I had just done about 6000 miles in 3 months. So I had absolutely no problem out climbing him on hills or just motoring away. Any exercise is amazingly specific.
But any exercise beats no exercise by a very wide margin.
I am curious and mean no offense, but how was it possible that you were even a tiny bit overweight if you were averaging ~66 miles per day for 3 months? I simply cannot fathom that. I mean, say you were averaging 16.75 mph (that is very very fast for the Bay Area, but might be more typical in Florida). That is 4 hours of hard riding each and every day. Even if you ate like a horse, how could that not make you stick thin??? I am just curious.
I am curious and mean no offense, but how was it possible that you were even a tiny bit overweight if you were averaging ~66 miles per day for 3 months? I simply cannot fathom that. I mean, say you were averaging 16.75 mph (that is very very fast for the Bay Area, but might be more typical in Florida). That is 4 hours of hard riding each and every day. Even if you ate like a horse, how could that not make you stick thin??? I am just curious.
You have to consider the source. The guy was a pretty fast long distance runner. Long distance runners think you are obese if you do not look like the refugee from a concentration camp.
This was up in MI which strangely enough is flatter than central FL. At that time, I could cruise at 25 mph solo for extended periods of time. But the other guy was a terrific runner. I think he thought there was some sort of divine intervention going on when I motored away from him. He just did not understand that forms of atheletic exercise are extremely specific. You can be great at one and not so hot at another. I mean Michael Jordan was a great basketball player and not even a major league ball player.
I was not stick thin but I was not fat unless you had a rather special perspective.
Most cyclist coaches recommend running up hill. Jogging on the flats has no impact on your cycling. Up hill jogging works some simliar muscles and can be helpful to cycling.
I think that is good advice if you are doing a run workout instead of a bike workout. However, i like to run on the flats between bike workouts precisely because it uses different muscles form cycling. When my legs are blown from the hills/intervals/sprints/whatever i did the previous day, i can still get a decent aerobic workout by running.
mindaugas
01-22-09, 09:59 AM
this all sounds good, if anything it should help my breathing. I breath a lot harder when jogging over cycling. plus I wanna do a 5k or something so I need to do a little running so I don't kill myself. in regards to the runner vs cyclist. I rode with a girl that does a lot of running and just general workout. we avg'd 17mph on her first ride over 40 miles. she was pushing the big chain ring the whole time. she isn't a bean pole long distance runner though.
dwilbur3
01-22-09, 11:31 AM
In the running world cross-training is frequently recommended. I'm sure the benefits still apply if cycling is your main sport.
cyclezen
01-22-09, 02:42 PM
runnin is bad, joggin is from da debbil !
runners are all so 'chummy' , it's downright (hold my tongue !) socialist!
I just wanna throw up a hairball!
cyclists, well, they all wanna kick each other's arse! yeah, captialism! :twitchy:
1st thought when another rider is spotted up da road, catch dat muther! drop his arse!
no matter that he's 6 and ridin a red tricycle...:(
just cause I can;t run a city block, even if Cheney was chasin me down in his wheel chair...
nah, I nosz what I'm tawkin bout !
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