Classic & Vintage - need to know what this frame is

i got this frame and fork from some guy he said it was a 1970s rusain track frame but i dont know the name i can get more pics if you need not numbers on the bb
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my guess is that it´s a kharkov.

k if you need more pics just let me know

Those lugs are gorgeous! Too bad those risers and Deep V's aren't
-Gene-

Those lugs are gorgeous! Too bad those risers and Deep V's aren't
-Gene-

hahaha :beer:

yes more close ups of the various frame junctions and fittings would be good.

see http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=38333&d=1172798079

well see i like the deep vs and the bars thats all that matters and thnks for the help

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Definitely Russian lugwork. Might be made out of stolen pipes for the cooling-system of a nuclear power-plant. But a Russian one for certain. Beautiful!

out of curiosity i´d like to take a look at some further pictures, especially the bottom bracket shell and the fork crown.
i´m not sure which brand it is similar headlugs were also found on torpados and stucchis but i wouldn´t say that this is anywhere near. to be honest i am not well informed about bicycles made in the former ussr. kharkov or xb3 is, as far as i know, which isn´t far at all, the same brand.
search the forum, there are some threads about said company.
there is one on ebay right now.

link (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRACK-FRAME-RECORD.58-cm.PISTA.Made-in-USSR.Only-frame_W0QQitemZ120367204468QQcmdZViewItem)

out of curiosity i´d like to take a look at some further pictures, especially the bottom bracket shell and the fork crown.
i´m not sure which brand it is similar headlugs were also found on torpados and stucchis but i wouldn´t say that this is anywhere near. to be honest i am not well informed about bicycles made in the former ussr. kharkov or xb3 is, as far as i know, which isn´t far at all, the same brand.
search the forum, there are some threads about said company.
there is one on ebay right now.

link (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRACK-FRAME-RECORD.58-cm.PISTA.Made-in-USSR.Only-frame_W0QQitemZ120367204468QQcmdZViewItem)

Frame builder Doug Fattic is actually working with the Kharkov factory in Kharkov to produce city bikes for the Ukrainian market. You might want to send him an email to see if he knows more about your frame: fatticbicycles@qtm.net

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This would be the name of the city that the state-run factory was in...there was no such thing as private manufacturing in the USSR. There seems to be a little pride in workmanship missing, too, looking at that cobbly bottom bracket shell.

A freakin' piece of history, right there.

yea i striped all the spray paint off it and it has bras drop outs bottom bracket and seat lug will have pics up tomrow

What kind of threading does it have (BB, steering tube)? English, French, Italian, Swiss, Spanish, Ukranian? That is a strange combination of fancy lugs with lousy looking brazing and finishing.

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i put an english thread in there with no proble the headset came with but its just 1 in yea ill have pics of teh frame for you guys tomrow in the am

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and dont hate on the wheels im buildin new ones now philhubs on open pros